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Chitchat "The World won't laugh at us" - Trump

scroobal

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The World is not laughing, they are shocked. Credit to China for stepping forward to take leadership.


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40127326
Paris climate deal: Trump pulls US out of 2015 accord
3 hours ago

Trump: The world won't laugh any more at US

President Donald Trump has announced that the US is withdrawing from the 2015 Paris climate agreement.
He said moves to negotiate a new "fair" deal that would not disadvantage US businesses and workers would begin.
Mr Trump said during last year's presidential election campaign that he would take the step to help his country's oil and coal industries.
Opponents say withdrawing from the accord is an abdication of US leadership on a key global challenge.
The Paris agreement commits the US and 187 other countries to keeping rising global temperatures "well below" 2C above pre-industrial levels and "endeavour to limit" them even more, to 1.5C. Only Syria and Nicaragua did not sign up to the deal.
What did Trump say?
Speaking in the White House Rose Garden, Mr Trump characterised the Paris agreement as a deal that aimed to hobble, disadvantage and impoverish the US.
He claimed the agreement would cost the US $3tn in lost GDP and 6.5 million jobs - while rival economies like China and India were treated more favourably.
"In order to fulfil my solemn duty to protect America and its citizens, the United States will withdraw from the Paris climate accord... but begin negotiations to re-enter either the Paris accord or a really entirely new transaction on terms that are fair to the United States," he said.
Five effects of US pullout
How has the world reacted?
The speech contained several rhetorical flourishes reminiscent of his campaign speeches.
"We don't want other leaders and other countries laughing at us any more - and they won't be," he said.
"I was elected to represent the citizens of Pittsburgh, not Paris. I promised I would exit or re-negotiate any deal which fails to serve America's interests. Many trade deals will soon be under re-negotiation."
The BBC's Rajini Vaidyanathan in Washington says the move will be welcomed by many Trump supporters, as for them this is less about science - and more about sending a signal to so-called global elites.


The US contributes about 15% of global emissions of carbon, but it is also a significant source of finance and technology for developing countries in their efforts to fight rising temperatures.
Mr Trump did not give a timescale for US withdrawal, but White House sources had earlier suggested it could take up to four years.
What is in the Paris climate deal?
Will this hurt Trump?
What has the reaction been?

Former US President Barack Obama, who agreed to the Paris deal, immediately criticised the move, accusing the Trump administration of "rejecting the future".
Republican congressional leaders and the US coal industry backed the move, with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell supporting Mr Trump "for dealing yet another significant blow to the Obama administration's assault on domestic energy production and jobs".
Senate Democratic leader Chuck Schumer called the decision "one of the worst policy moves made in the 21st Century because of the huge damage to our economy, our environment and our geopolitical standing".

The leaders of France, Germany and Italy issued a joint statement rejecting a renegotiation of the agreement.
"We deem the momentum generated in Paris in December 2015 irreversible and we firmly believe that the Paris agreement cannot be renegotiated, since it is a vital instrument for our planet, societies and economies," it said.
Canada was "deeply disappointed" by President Trump's decision, Environment Minister Catherine McKenna told reporters.
This was echoed by UK Prime Minister Theresa May, who expressed her disappointment and told Mr Trump in a phone call that the deal protects the "prosperity and security of future generations".
The reasons Trump wanted to leave deal
Analysis: The world's crying, not laughing
Leaders of the Nordic nations - Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Norway, and Iceland - also condemned the move.
A United Nations spokeswoman said it was a "major disappointment for global efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and promote global security".
Small island nations whose existence is threatened by rising sea levels were critical of the move. The President of the Marshall Islands, Hilda Heine, said it was "highly concerning for those of us that live on the frontline of climate change".
Reaction as it happened
Coal industry welcomes move
Trump lays on the drama
Graphic showing impact of US pulling out of Paris deal
Tech entrepreneur Elon Musk confirmed that he was leaving his role as an adviser to the Trump administration in protest.
"Am departing presidential councils. Climate change is real. Leaving Paris is not good for America or the world," he tweeted.
'Worse than expected'
By BBC environment correspondent Matt McGrath
President Trump's statement is a very clear repudiation of the Paris agreement and international efforts to fund climate mitigation and adaptation in poorer countries.
In many ways it is far worse than many had expected. He sees it as a clear job killer, as an economy strangler and a desperately unfair stitch-up by other countries wanting to take economic advantage of the US.
He spoke of being open to re-negotiating the deal or trying to build a new agreement - but the idea of "re-negotiation" is an unlikely scenario.
The scale of his opposition, seeing the deal as "a massive redistribution of US wealth to other countries" is a clear indication that he has fully bought into an economic nationalist and climate denier perspective.
The question of unfairness cropped up again and again, how the world's worst polluters, China and India, had "no meaningful obligations" placed on them by the deal.
The overall tone and content of his speech clearly plays to his base but is also a clear disavowal of multilateralism, especially on climate change, and will definitely push other countries more closely together on this issue.
What is climate change?
Will China take over US role?



What was agreed in Paris?
Climate change, or global warming, refers to the damaging effect of gases, or emissions, released from industry and agriculture on the atmosphere.
The Paris accord is meant to limit the global rise in temperature attributed to emissions.
Countries agreed to:
Keep global temperatures "well below" the level of 2C (3.6F) above pre-industrial times and "endeavour to limit" them even more, to 1.5C
Limit the amount of greenhouse gases emitted by human activity to the same levels that trees, soil and oceans can absorb naturally, beginning at some point between 2050 and 2100
Review each country's contribution to cutting emissions every five years so they scale up to the challenge
Enable rich countries to help poorer nations by providing "climate finance" to adapt to climate change and switch to renewable energy
 

mojito

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Where is the China you speak of? They are a major beneficiary of the accord so they burn coal like never before.
 

johnny333

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Where is the China you speak of? They are a major beneficiary of the accord so they burn coal like never before.

I've been watching the US channels & was surprise to hear that while China is using coal they are also spending large sums of $$$ on alternative technologies like solar power, hydro & wind. In fact the amount they are spending on solar power has brought down the price of solar panels.

There are 3 countries that are not joining the Paris accord: Syria, Venezuela, and the US.
 

gingerlyn

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I've been watching the US channels & was surprise to hear that while China is using coal they are also spending large sums of $$$ on alternative technologies like solar power, hydro & wind. In fact the amount they are spending on solar power has brought down the price of solar panels.

There are 3 countries that are not joining the Paris accord: Syria, Venezuela, and the US.

in Singapore, Government will not encourage solar and wind mill even though we have potential to enjoy renewable energy.
why singapore refuses? because PAP wants more tax and they cannot tax on renewable energy
 

scroobal

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See their comments in recent days when Trump first mentioned cancelling it and now their official stand. China and US are the 2 highest emitters and one would have thought they would fight this. Not anymore. Looks like China has decided to take the opportunity to lead the World where the seat has been vacated.

I say Kudos to them.

Where is the China you speak of? They are a major beneficiary of the accord so they burn coal like never before.
 

virus

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Fuckface von clownstick is one of the biggest direct beneficiary, having shares in fracking firms, exploring coal mining, etc all dirty filthy energy firms that is killing environment, just look at the eo he signed, so russian riggers will be in alaska drilling their bits n profit
 

frenchbriefs

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in Singapore, Government will not encourage solar and wind mill even though we have potential to enjoy renewable energy.
why singapore refuses? because PAP wants more tax and they cannot tax on renewable energy

Singapore is like north korea,north korea is afraid to let their economy develop too freely in case it might result it shift the balance of power and result in the party losing control,likewise in singapore we cannot pursue any policy that might benefit the citizens individually and give them advantage or power in the economy or let any centers of power or organization such as unions or clan associations develop,any centers of power must be brought under PAP's control or otherwise eliminated.divide and conquer thats how sinkies remain weak till today,i must create a multi billion dollar conglomerate like li ka shing and challenge PAP's dominance or sinkies will never be free.once sinkies realise there are powers greater than them or capable of standing up against them they will cease to believe in PAP,if u can make God bleed,people will cease to believe in him.
 
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johnny333

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Singapore is like north korea,north korea is afraid to let their economy develop too freely in case it might result it shift the balance of power and result in the party losing control........

Is it still against the law in Spore to collect rainwater:confused:

Never understood why there was such a law in the books. There is no drought in Spore. In fact flash floods are common whenever it rains.
 
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