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Chitchat Shanmugam and the AGM

scroobal

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http://www.theindependent.sg/one-ca...st-200-more-after-shanmugams-intervention/One Canberra’s first AGM to cost $200 more after Shanmugam’s intervention?
May 23, 20171480
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One Canberra in Yishun. (Photo: Hyoungwoo Kim/Facebook)
On 21 May, Law and Home Affairs Minister, K Shanmugam, took the managing agent of One Canberra to task for planning to spend $19,000 for first annual general meeting (AGM) of the Executive Condominium. The AGM is being held to vote in the Management Corporation Strata Title (MCST).

In the letter he sent to the managing agent, Realty International Associates Pte Ltd (RIA), Mr Shanmugam said several of the Yishun condo’s residents, raised the matter with him and that he was concerned because there was a cheaper option available. He said the Chong Pang Community Club was available as an alternative venue for the AGM, and that the managing agents need only pay for logistics and catering at an estimated cost of $5,000. RIA is a sister company to ERA Realty Network Pte Ltd.


RIA’s Vice-President responded to the Minister’s letter the following day and explained why they could not go for the cheaper option. The Vice-President, Mr Jackson Ong, said that the AGM was agreed to be held on 17 June and that they could not hold it in the EC’s clubhouse as it was too small. They also enquired with Chong Pang Community Club, but the place was not available on that day.

Mr Ong said that they next looked at SAFRA, which could only accommodate a maximum of 320 people, before tentatively deciding on Orchid Country Club (OCC). He said the venue at OCC would have cost about S$16,000 (not $19,000), but that plans were not finalised, neither were circulars sent out.

He added that the developer of the EC, MCC Land, had agreed to sponsor $8,000 for the AGM if it were to be held in OCC. This would have brought the cost of hosting the AGM at OCC down to $8,000. The remainder would have been paid for by the EC’s maintenance fund which residents pay S$240 to S$260 monthly, depending on the size of their units.

After the Minister’s letter and Facebook post, RIA decided to change the date of the AGM to 24 June and to hold it at Chong Pang CC. Mr Ong said: “We value Minister Shanmugam’s feedback, and have decided to hold it at Chong Pang CC after changing the date.”

It will now cost $8,200 to host the event at Chong Pang CC. The premise is offered free of charge but a cleaning fee of $200 has been imposed. The cost of food and the rental of tables and chairs will cost $8,000.
 

po2wq

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... He said the venue at OCC would have cost about S$16,000 (not $19,000), but that plans were not finalised, neither were circulars sent out.

He added that the developer of the EC, MCC Land, had agreed to sponsor $8,000 for the AGM if it were to be held in OCC. This would have brought the cost of hosting the AGM at OCC down to $8,000. The remainder would have been paid for by the EC’s maintenance fund ...

It will now cost $8,200 to host the event at Chong Pang CC ... The cost of food and the rental of tables and chairs will cost $8,000.
ze amount ria nid 2 spend @ earlier venue is 8K ... after all ze big fuss by ze big shot minister, ria nid 2 spend 8.2k, but @ a lousier venue ...

ze developer mcc land shud tank ze big shot minister 4 his effort in helping dem save 8k ...
 

scroobal

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Yes, the big winner is listed developer who saved $8k and the residents now have to pay more after Minister's intervention. I am however not ruling out the possibility that MA and the developer game out with this new scenario on purpose.

Also keen to find out why CC rental fee was waived for this condo and not for other?



ze amount ria nid 2 spend @ earlier venue is 8K ... after all ze big fuss by ze big shot minister, ria nid 2 spend 8.2k, but @ a lousier venue ...

ze developer mcc land shud tank ze big shot minister 4 his effort in helping dem save 8k ...
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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ERA no longer owned by Harry Chua. Indon linked. Curious to know which company gamed the food supplies and other supplies.
 

po2wq

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Yes, the big winner is listed developer who saved $8k and the residents now have to pay more after Minister's intervention. I am however not ruling out the possibility that MA and the developer game out with this new scenario on purpose ...
residents now haf a worserer deal ... no tanks 2 dat burger ... ze residents shud sue dat burger 4 messing up their arrangements ...

dat big shot burger shud b red face by now ... but 2 bad, cant c dat from his skin ...
 

KuanTi01

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residents now haf a worserer deal ... no tanks 2 dat burger ... ze residents shud sue dat burger 4 messing up their arrangements ...

dat big shot burger shud b red face by now ... but 2 bad, cant c dat from his skin ...

Really much ado about nothing! Lumpar parlan. Cabinet Minister so free? RIA so kiasi? No freedom of choice? In the end the residents are worse off! Lol
 

Brightkid

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That at least $8,200 too much.

Most condos use their multipurpose hall for AGMs and meetings with not even water to drink. And it's all no cost to condo resident!
 

scroobal

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Yes. Its a meeting on condo issues not a celebration.

Anyway I am sure that Condos around Singapore will now have by-laws introduced to stop residents contacting PAP MPs to avoid unnecessary costs. I am not sure what the issue is with the residents here. Its their maintenance fund and condo manager works for them. As the first condo AGM directed by the developer, all they had to do was call a residents meeting and resolve not to attend the AGM because of cost. Why go crying to Shanmugam. Its sounds like a grassroots leader living there was trying to curry favours.




That at least $8,200 too much.

Most condos use their multipurpose hall for AGMs and meetings with not even water to drink. And it's all no cost to condo resident!
 

nayr69sg

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In Singapore people vote the MP to deal with such things. LOL!

Minister of Law get involved in small condo AGM $$$ issues? LOL!
 

scroobal

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During the 2011 GE hustings, the residents of a Condo in the East literally chased away a cabinet members and his entourage of PAP/PA porlumpars who were knocking at doors. He was so upset that he and fhis ellow idiots went to the nearest police station to lodge a Police Report. He was politely told that residents had every right to chase trespassers. Apparently he and his entourage could not name a single resident who invited them in.

So not all Singaporeans are idiots. And the cabinet minister never again stood for elections.

In Singapore people vote the MP to deal with such things. LOL!

Minister of Law get involved in small condo AGM $$$ issues? LOL!
 

CoffeeAhSoh

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During the 2011 GE hustings, the residents of a Condo in the East literally chased away a cabinet members and his entourage of PAP/PA porlumpars who were knocking at doors. He was so upset that he and fhis ellow idiots went to the nearest police station to lodge a Police Report. He was politely told that residents had every right to chase trespassers. Apparently he and his entourage could not name a single resident who invited them in.

So not all Singaporeans are idiots. And the cabinet minister never again stood for elections.


Just curious at this rate Shan is the most high profile minister. No horse run.
 

Narong Wongwan

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In Singapore people vote the MP to deal with such things. LOL!

Minister of Law get involved in small condo AGM $$$ issues? LOL!

Petty issues for petty people.
Now you know why they need to be paid so much.
How many condos in his constituency? Everyone also he kaypo he very busy
 
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