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An imam at a radical Islam-linked mosque in Copenhagen, Denmark has been accused of calling for the murder of Jews, Yahoo! News reports.

A complaint by Denmark’s Jewish community has been filed against imam Mundhir Abdallah of the Masjid Al-Faruq mosque for citing a hadith on March 31st, asking for Muslims to rise up and kill Jews. A hadith, according to Wikipedia, is secondary to the Koran but describes “the words, actions, or habits of the Islamic prophet Muhammad.”

Transcripts of the YouTube video provided by The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) quotes the imam as saying, "Judgment Day will not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them.”

This particular mosque was visited by ISIS sympathizer Omar al-Hussein in 2015, the day before he shot and killed one person at a freedom of expression conference and a Jewish man standing outside of a synagogue in Copenhagen. The terrorist was eventually killed in a shootout with police.

The head of the Jewish community in Denmark, Dan Rosenberg Asmussen, wants a police investigation into the mosque and the imam.

"We fear that weak and easily-influenced persons could interpret this kind of preaching as an appeal to visit acts of violence or terror on Jews," he said.

Denmark’s minister of immigration and integration said the imam’s comments were “horrible, anti-democratic and abominable.”

Yahoo notes that six foreigners have recently been banned from Denmark for at least two years for preaching hate. Five out of the six are Muslims from Saudi Arabia, Canada, Syria, and America. The sixth is evangelist Terry Jones, famous for burning copies of the Koran in Florida.
 

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But it is in the islamic scriptures. Would disputing them lead to blasphemy charges against Islam just like what happened to Ahok?
 

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But it is in the islamic scriptures. Would disputing them lead to blasphemy charges against Islam just like what happened to Ahok?

You are spot on!

These double standard practice by peace loving muslims:
1. Can convert into islam but cannot convert out
2. Cannot donate blood but can accept blood from infidels
3. Can kill non-muslims, non-muslims cannot touch muslims
4. Can insult other religions, other religions cannot speak against Islam
5. Will keep silent when Islamic terrorists bombs countless non-muslims but will make big noise when a muslim is killed though the muslim is from another country
 

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why is it okay when hitler did it but not okay when islam preaches it?double standard much?
 

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Since when was it ok when hitler did it? :eek::biggrin:

why is it okay when hitler did it but not okay when islam preaches it?double standard much?
 

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Since when was it ok when hitler did it? :eek::biggrin:

oh the holocaust happened in germany but they were busy slaughtering and deporting jews all over europe,i think poland handed over 1 million jews to germany death camps.u know they(the europeans) did not give a rats ass about jews.
 

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But the allied forces did go after Hitler right up to the end, and he ended up killing himself in his bunker to avoid being captured, if my memory of history lessons serve me correctly. In the beginning, it couldn't be helped, he was a manipulative megalomaniac and he controlled and dominated a lot of people and territories.

That is why you should never allow a morally and ethically suspect manipulative megalomaniac to dominate and control anything or any place.

oh the holocaust happened in germany but they were busy slaughtering and deporting jews all over europe,i think poland handed over 1 million jews to germany death camps.u know they(the europeans) did not give a rats ass about jews.
 

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This is nonsense. Islam is a religion of peace. The Jews must have conspired with the mosque and paid the iman to say such vile stuff to tarnish the good name of Islam.
 

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But the allied forces did go after Hitler right up to the end, and he ended up killing himself in his bunker to avoid being captured, if my memory of history lessons serve me correctly. In the beginning, it couldn't be helped, he was a manipulative megalomaniac and he controlled and dominated a lot of people and territories.

That is why you should never allow a morally and ethically suspect manipulative megalomaniac to dominate and control anything or any place.

The problem is we are dealing with a violent and intolerant ideology, not just a a demented individual or individuals. The yankees thought that killing OBL or Saddam would bring an end to the insurgency just like when Hitler was dead and Berlin overrrun. That only works when the ideology is in its infancy stage and revolved around a single person. The leader dies, the ideology crumbles and dies with him.

We put an end to Nazism and facism because back then, the Allies went after not only the armed Nazis but also the unarmed Nazis. If you were a Nazi, their sympathiser or their associate, you will be jailed. "German cultural centres" or any place that preaches nazi ideology would be shut down swiftly. Today, the only Islamic radicals we are going after are those in the streets carrying guns or bombs. We do nothing about their mosques and seminaries who are furiously spawning more radicals and firebrand preachers each day.

This is a picture of radicals who sympathise and outright support hatred towards non-Muslims and minorities. No one is going to take them out but the media will boast about how police are fighting radicalism by arresting or shooting them a couple of these clowns when they pick up a gun.

170214124856-05-jakarta-election-ahok-exlarge-169.jpg
 

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The problem is we are dealing with a violent and intolerant ideology, not just a a demented individual or individuals. The yankees thought that killing OBL or Saddam would bring an end to the insurgency just like when Hitler was dead and Berlin overrrun. That only works when the ideology is in its infancy stage and revolved around a single person. The leader dies, the ideology crumbles and dies with him.

We put an end to Nazism and facism because back then, the Allies went after not only the armed Nazis but also the unarmed Nazis. If you were a Nazi, their sympathiser or their associate, you will be jailed. "German cultural centres" or any place that preaches nazi ideology would be shut down swiftly. Today, the only Islamic radicals we are going after are those in the streets carrying guns or bombs. We do nothing about their mosques and seminaries who are furiously spawning more radicals and firebrand preachers each day.

This is a picture of radicals who sympathise and outright support hatred towards non-Muslims and minorities. No one is going to take them out but the media will boast about how police are fighting radicalism by arresting or shooting them a couple of these clowns when they pick up a gun.

170214124856-05-jakarta-election-ahok-exlarge-169.jpg

Wow you seem to have the full picture on lockdown nigger. Yet post about "good muslims" when they commit crimes towards others in other threads. (yeah it's satire, sarcasm, tongue in cheek) :rolleyes:
 

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The problem is we are dealing with a violent and intolerant ideology, not just a a demented individual or individuals. The yankees thought that killing OBL or Saddam would bring an end to the insurgency just like when Hitler was dead and Berlin overrrun. That only works when the ideology is in its infancy stage and revolved around a single person. The leader dies, the ideology crumbles and dies with him.

We put an end to Nazism and facism because back then, the Allies went after not only the armed Nazis but also the unarmed Nazis. If you were a Nazi, their sympathiser or their associate, you will be jailed. "German cultural centres" or any place that preaches nazi ideology would be shut down swiftly. Today, the only Islamic radicals we are going after are those in the streets carrying guns or bombs. We do nothing about their mosques and seminaries who are furiously spawning more radicals and firebrand preachers each day.

This is a picture of radicals who sympathise and outright support hatred towards non-Muslims and minorities. No one is going to take them out but the media will boast about how police are fighting radicalism by arresting or shooting them a couple of these clowns when they pick up a gun.

170214124856-05-jakarta-election-ahok-exlarge-169.jpg

u do understand that islam have been around for more than a thousand years and history sort of have a funny way of getting mixed up.hollywood has a funny way of exaggerating and twisting facts to suit their purpose,what with the "christians" and the "white guys" being good and the persians,arabs,brown people,darkies being the "bad" guys when both have interesting civilisations and history is way more complicated.for example the movie 300 before persia "iran" and most of the middle east was engulfed by islam.....

[video=youtube;naPUYTKEMc8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naPUYTKEMc8[/video]
 

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This is nonsense. Islam is a religion of peace. The Jews must have conspired with the mosque and paid the iman to say such vile stuff to tarnish the good name of Islam.

Conspiracy theory is the pushing off responsibility tactic first used successfully during 9/11 by Islamic propagandists and it was so successful even gullible non-muslims buy into the fake story. ISIS is formed and sponsored by the westerners, is another successful gimmick to trick the gullible lay muslims to uphold and prevent the faith from collapsing. You check with the m&ds in the heartlands, despite all the evidences of acts of terrorism nearby in South Thailand, South Filippines, Indonesia, Pakistan, Banglaland, they can believe and tell you Islam is perfect meaning Islam is faultless.
 
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rubbish. arabs and jews are cousins. descendant of abraham.
 

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U r rite cat hitam duluxe. Islam is a peaceful religion n teres no compulsion in religion. All stated in d Quran. Unless u r blind, cat hitam duluxe.
 

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U r rite cat hitam duluxe. Islam is a peaceful religion n teres no compulsion in religion. All stated in d Quran. Unless u r blind, cat hitam duluxe.

It's also stated in the Quran to kill apostates. Look, in nearly all muslim majority countries, Islamic scholars are in agreement that apostates in Islam should be killed. But due to political correctness on their part, they don't kill all apostates. However, in places like Pakistan, apostates are beaten to death by lynch mobs. In Malaysia, apostates, especially m&d apostates, are locked away in concentration camps aka "purification centres". In Saudi Arabia, it's beheading. Mind you, all these are done with the full knowledge and support of your Islamic clerics and scholars.

Muslims often challenge their detractors to state their Islamic credentials before debating about Islam or else shut up. Yet, the hard truth is that islamic clerics with impeccable Islamic credentials agree that apostates of Islam should be jailed, punished, harassed or physically harmed in one way or another.

So, if you want to convince us that people are free to join and leave Islam without harm (that's how we define "no compulsion in islam"), you should get some real islamic clerics to make public declarations. Otherwise, you make yourself look like yet another islamic apologetic liar.
 
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u do understand that islam have been around for more than a thousand years and history sort of have a funny way of getting mixed up.hollywood has a funny way of exaggerating and twisting facts to suit their purpose,what with the "christians" and the "white guys" being good and the persians,arabs,brown people,darkies being the "bad" guys when both have interesting civilisations and history is way more complicated.for example the movie 300 before persia "iran" and most of the middle east was engulfed by islam.....

[video=youtube;naPUYTKEMc8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naPUYTKEMc8[/video]

I don't think Persian people are accurately depicted in the "300" film series. They are animation fantasy based on real events by a certain artist. The characters are depicted in a certain way to bring out the artistic flair of the artist. He's a graphic artist, not a historian.

I feel sorry for the Persians. They have been fucked up pretty bad in the mind by the Islamic colonizers. The chinks were conquered by the Mongols and Manchus and partially by the Japs, but the chinks managed to preserve their way of life, culture, philosophy, history and folklore heroes.

The Persians were conquered by the Arabs, and since then, the persians have been sucking the dicks of those who conquered them, enslaved them, butchered their people and raped their women. The ancient persians who stood up against the arab invaders today are either forgotten, spat upon by persians today as villians for opposing Islam or have to be secretly revered. It's akin to chinks sucking Yamashita's and Tojo's cock while hurling abuse at Lim Bo Seng for standing up to the japs. That's how messed up the persians mentally. It's probably the same in certain parts of eastern europe that were once colonized by the Ottomans.
 

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The problem is we are dealing with a violent and intolerant ideology, not just a a demented individual or individuals. The yankees thought that killing OBL or Saddam would bring an end to the insurgency just like when Hitler was dead and Berlin overrrun. That only works when the ideology is in its infancy stage and revolved around a single person. The leader dies, the ideology crumbles and dies with him.

We put an end to Nazism and facism because back then, the Allies went after not only the armed Nazis but also the unarmed Nazis. If you were a Nazi, their sympathiser or their associate, you will be jailed. "German cultural centres" or any place that preaches nazi ideology would be shut down swiftly. Today, the only Islamic radicals we are going after are those in the streets carrying guns or bombs. We do nothing about their mosques and seminaries who are furiously spawning more radicals and firebrand preachers each day.

This is a picture of radicals who sympathise and outright support hatred towards non-Muslims and minorities. No one is going to take them out but the media will boast about how police are fighting radicalism by arresting or shooting them a couple of these clowns when they pick up a gun.

170214124856-05-jakarta-election-ahok-exlarge-169.jpg

This is a very factual and good writeup! Terrorism and extremism start in the mosques. Luckily we are protected by more relevant and up-to-date laws.
 

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It's also stated in the Quran to kill apostates. Look, in nearly all muslim majority countries, Islamic scholars are in agreement that apostates in Islam should be killed. But due to political correctness on their part, they don't kill all apostates. However, in places like Pakistan, apostates are beaten to death by lynch mobs. In Malaysia, apostates, especially m&d apostates, are locked away in concentration camps aka "purification centres". In Saudi Arabia, it's beheading. Mind you, all these are done with the full knowledge and support of your Islamic clerics and scholars.

Muslims often challenge their detractors to state their Islamic credentials before debating about Islam or else shut up. Yet, the hard truth is that islamic clerics with impeccable Islamic credentials agree that apostates of Islam should be jailed, punished, harassed or physically harmed in one way or another.

So, if you want to convince us that people are free to join and leave Islam without harm (that's how we define "no compulsion in islam"), you should get some real islamic clerics to make public declarations. Otherwise, you make yourself look like yet another islamic apologetic liar.

I ask u to show me verses fm the Quran tat command apostates be killed? Show me?

Muslim countries can come up with their own set of laws. But u cant blame the Quran. Latter did not specifically command tat apostates be in prison or killed.

If wat u said abt Quran commanding infidels be killed, then how come we still hear people converting to Islam? I know wat u gonna said...cos of marriage? But tere are some who found the truth and embrace Islam as their faith. During our Prophet time, infidels and hypocrites was brought to justice cos they tried many ways and means to kill the Prophet and to stop the Prophet to carry out God's command i.e. to spread Islam. I think ur not tat igorant to understand such situation during those medieval times.

I already mentioned in my past post. My own relatives. Three children did not pracitise Islam. Married to non muslim. Register in ROM. No issue although their parents quite sad. Their parents did not disown them. Hari Raya still visit their parents.

One is free to embrace Islam. Theres no compulsion in religion as stated in the Quran. If theres any shortcoming it could be due to poverty, politics, lack of knowledge etc.

Islam is a peaceful religion. Muslims only retaliate in act of self defence. Whereas certain religion "invade" Muslim countries on the pretext of eliminating "terrorist".:rolleyes:

Remember John, Islam forbid killing innocents. Muslims are even forbid to destroy trees what more humans.

https://www.quora.com/Where-does-it-say-in-the-Quran-to-kill-infidels
 
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Quran (47:3-4) - "Those who disbelieve follow falsehood, while those who believe follow the truth from their Lord... So, when you meet (in fight Jihad in Allah's Cause), those who disbelieve smite at their necks till when you have killed and wounded many of them, then bind a bond firmly (on them, i.e. take them as captives)... If it had been Allah's Will, He Himself could certainly have punished them (without you). But (He lets you fight), in order to test you, some with others. But those who are killed in the Way of Allah, He will never let their deeds be lost." Those who reject Allah are to be killed in Jihad. The wounded are to be held captive for ransom. The only reason Allah doesn't do the dirty work himself is to to test the faithfulness of Muslims. Those who kill pass the test.

Quran (47:35) - "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost (Shakir: "have the upper hand") for Allah is with you,"

Quran (48:17) - "There is no blame for the blind, nor is there blame for the lame, nor is there blame for the sick (that they go not forth to war). And whoso obeyeth Allah and His messenger, He will make him enter Gardens underneath which rivers flow; and whoso turneth back, him will He punish with a painful doom." Contemporary apologists sometimes claim that Jihad means 'spiritual struggle.' Is so, then why are the blind, lame and sick exempted? This verse also says that those who do not fight will suffer torment in hell.

Quran (48:29) - "Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard (ruthless) against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves" Islam is not about treating everyone equally. This verse tells Muslims that there are two very distinct standards that are applied based on religious status. Also the word used for 'hard' or 'ruthless' in this verse shares the same root as the word translated as 'painful' or severe' to describe Hell in over 25 other verses including 65:10, 40:46 and 50:26..

Quran (61:4) - "Surely Allah loves those who fight in His way" Religion of Peace, indeed! The verse explicitly refers to "battle array" meaning that it is speaking of physical conflict. This is followed by (61:9): "He it is who has sent His Messenger (Mohammed) with guidance and the religion of truth (Islam) to make it victorious over all religions even though the infidels may resist." (See next verse, below). Infidels who resist Islamic rule are to be fought.

Quran (61:10-12) - "O You who believe! Shall I guide you to a commerce that will save you from a painful torment. That you believe in Allah and His Messenger (Muhammad ), and that you strive hard and fight in the Cause of Allah with your wealth and your lives, that will be better for you, if you but know! (If you do so) He will forgive you your sins, and admit you into Gardens under which rivers flow, and pleasant dwelling in Gardens of 'Adn - Eternity ['Adn (Edn) Paradise], that is indeed the great success." This verse refers to physical battle in order to make Islam victorious over other religions (see above). It uses the Arabic word, Jihad.

Quran (66:9) - "O Prophet! Strive against the disbelievers and the hypocrites, and be stern with them. Hell will be their home, a hapless journey's end." The root word of "Jihad" is used again here. The context is clearly holy war, and the scope of violence is broadened to include "hypocrites" - those who call themselves Muslims but do not act as such.

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
 

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Salim

Try to ustand. i already mentioned earlier post. Y u nvr read d link i had posted. I suppose u ignore tat link.

Those command were given to d Prophet 1400 yrs ago. Tat time d Prophet was spreading msg of Islam. Surroundg him were many enemies of Islam who tried many ways n means to kill n stop d Prophet missionary work. So its justifiable to protect Islam fm the enemies.
 
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