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    Default Sinkies cheat other sinkies of $ millions in Vancouver, is there no escape from them?

    KNN, move to another country to get away from kiasu sinkies and still get cheated by them? WTF?


    Lawsuits allege West Vancouver couple headed $40-million Ponzi scheme


    A series of civil claims filed this spring allege a West Vancouver couple are at the centre of a fraud and Ponzi scheme that pulled in more than $40 million over two decades before collapsing last year.
    The 11 civil claims involve nearly 50 investors from the Lower Mainland, Victoria, the Gulf Islands and as far away as Singapore and the United Kingdom, according to a Vancouver Sun analysis of documents filed in B.C. Supreme Court.
    Investors allege their money was not invested, as promised, in a payday loan business and other similar finance investments. As a result, investors allege they did not receive payments from profits from these businesses but from their own funds or money from subsequent investors, according to court documents.
    This type of fraud is normally called a Ponzi scheme, named after Charles Ponzi, who ran such a scheme in the 1920s in the United States.
    The British Columbia Securities Commission is also investigating the alleged scheme.
    The commission declined to discuss its investigation, but in an April 19 ruling, a commission panel denied an application to release funds from two frozen bank accounts linked to the West Vancouver couple.
    The couple named in the civil claims are Virginia Mary Tan, 64, and her husband Patrick Eng Tien Tan, 73. Their son Marcus Soon-Keen Tan, in his late 20s, who lives with his parents in West Vancouver, is also named in some of the claims.
    Virginia and Patrick Tan were pushed into bankruptcy on April 29 by one of the civil cases, a move that automatically stayed other civil actions seeking payment of investment losses, which will now be determined by a trustee. However, civil actions against Marcus Tan continue.
    And all three Tans are named in the securities commission ruling.
    The hundreds of pages of court files paint a detailed picture of the alleged scheme.
    The Tans have denied the allegations and also said they do not owe money in responses to a handful of the civil claims.
    The Tans did not respond to The Sun’s requests for interviews by phone or through emails.
    The Tans’ lawyer, John Whyte, said it is not appropriate for the Tans to comment because of the civil actions and the securities commission investigation.
    “In the circumstances, there’s nothing properly they can say at this time,” said Whyte.
    The investors that filed claims were also reluctant to discuss the alleged Ponzi scheme.
    But documents filed in the 11 claims, including affidavits from a handful of investors, show the alleged investment dealings began among close friends and circulated among relatives and acquaintances including a circle of people in the congregation of Christ The Redeemer Catholic Church in West Vancouver.
    Life savings lost

    Among the investors are businesspeople, retirees, university students and at least one accountant. The investors put in amounts ranging from $50,000 to several million dollars. New investors came on board as late as 2014 and 2015, The Sun’s analysis of court documents shows.
    Four priests invested their life savings, the documents show. And at least one couple has put up their home for sale because of their investment losses, according to the court filings.
    The civil claims filed in B.C. Supreme Court allege that starting in the late 1990s, investors put money into what they believed was a payday loan business, and later for short-term loans to businesses that could not obtain credit.
    Investors also allege they were told their money was used to buy debt owed to companies at a discount and then collect on it, a practice they say Virginia Tan described to them as factoring accounts receivable.
    Investors were promised high rates of return, 12 or 16 per cent, and in one case 24 per cent, the interest to be paid through promissory notes, according to court documents.
    A promissory note is a signed document that contains a written promise to pay a certain amount to a specified person at a specified date.
    Most promissory notes paid interest monthly, with the principal due after six months or one year. Often, investors rolled over their promissory notes when they came due and investors were often told their investments were secure, according to court filings.
    But beginning in 2015, interest payments began to stop when post-dated interest cheques bounced and investors were unable to collect their principal, show court documents.
    West Vancouver couple Laurence Lau and Chui Han Wong were the first to become involved with Virginia Tan’s proposed investments in 1997 through a private company they owned, RSC Enterprise Canada Inc., according to court filings.
    They met the Tans around 1996, became friends and then developed a business relationship, according to an affidavit filed by Lau in March.
    Lau, a former Singapore military pilot who moved to Canada in 1991 and settled in West Vancouver, said he and his wife invested their savings of $5.535 million.
    In addition, Lau said his sons invested $790,000 with Tan and the wife of one of his sons invested $1.53 million.
    Relatives of Lau, most of whom live in Singapore, and close friends invested another $9.39 million, according to the court documents.
    As a result of their investment losses alleged with the Tans, they are selling their West Vancouver home of 25 years, Lau’s affidavit states.
    Several online realtor websites show their Monte Bre Place house for sale.
    Lau and Wong’s lawyer, Michael Hewitt, declined to comment because he said the matter is a part of a legal action.
    Another early investor, North Vancouver resident Rina Teo, described in court documents as a financial controller, said in an affidavit filed in March that she first met Virginia Tan about 1998 at Christ the Redeemer Catholic Church.
    Teo declined to talk to a Sun reporter when reached by phone.
    The two women became close friends, and sometimes Tan introduced her as her sister, Teo’s affidavit states. Between 2002 and October 2015, Teo invested $7.405 million with the Tans, according to court documents.
    In the affidavit, Teo also noted that friends of hers and Jastram, the company for which she worked, invested another nearly $10 million.
    In her affidavit, Teo stated that four priests had also invested their retirement savings, totalling $446,000.
    One of the priests told Teo that he sent Virginia Tan $6,000 in February 2016, after Virginia promised higher interest, according to her affidavit. Teo advised the priest not to give any more money.
    In her affidavit, Teo said she loaned Virginia Tan $35,000 in October 2015, drawing on a credit line, after Tan was in tears and said she needed the money for personal reasons.
    That same month, Teo said in her affidavit that Virginia Tan asked her not to deposit interest cheques.
    Despite requests, no documentation has been provided as to how money from investors was used by Virginia Tan, Teo said in her affidavit.
    Commission question

    One of the other large civil claimants, Jastram Properties Ltd., is seeking return of $6.612 million invested between 2012 and 2015, outstanding 12-per-cent interest as well as damages, alleging that Virginia Tan was carrying out a Ponzi scheme.
    In a response filed in B.C. Supreme Court, Virginia Tan and Letan Investments (her sole proprietorship) said no fraud occurred.
    In the response, it is also noted the owners of Jastram Properties, Peter and Lale Doetsch, received $1.95 million in interest.
    Peter Doetsch declined to comment, as did his lawyer.
    Court filings show that at least two investors claiming significant investment losses collected commissions for bringing in more investors, many of those family and friends.
    This includes RSC Enterprise Canada Inc., owned by the West Vancouver couple Laurence Lau and Chui Han Wong, and North Vancouver resident Rina Teo.
    An amount of commission is not stated for RSC Enterprise Inc., but court documents filed claim Teo was paid $831,319.
    Other significant claims filed in court include:

    • Richard Ting Man Li and wife Kusmawatti Suherman, who invested $2.3 million between 2002 and 2015. In a response filed in court, Virginia Tan said she doesn’t owe any money, and made no loans to Li and Suherman, and if she did take loans, they were paid, or if there was a default it happened more than two years ago.
    • Thetis Island residents Lenka Helen Pelikan, listed as an accountant, her husband Malcolm Bruce Brophy, and a company they own invested more than $1.4 million between 2000 and 2015. Pelikan also declined to comment. “We’ve been instructed not to talk to anybody, not to jeopardize the process,” she said.
    • Vancouver resident Irene Richards, who made investments of $1.2 million between late 2010 and 2015. In response, Virginia Tan and Marcus Tan denied they owed any money.
    Frozen assets

    It is unclear to investors where all the money went.
    Some of the civil claims, including from Jastram, allege money they invested was used without their knowledge to purchase property in Surrey, Fort St. John and possibly on the Sunshine Coast.


    In response to the Jastram claim, Virginia Tan and Letan Investments said in court filings that only Marcus Tan acquired interest in the Surrey properties and no funds from Jastram were used to acquire the lands.
    The response also said no Jastram funds were used to buy property in Fort St. John.
    No property was bought on the Sunshine Coast, says the response.
    Earlier, on March 21, as part of the civil proceedings, B.C. Supreme Court Justice Elaine Adair ordered the Tans to not dispose of any assets or money in bank accounts.
    Nearly 30 townhouses and apartments in Fort St. John and five homes in Surrey meant to be redeveloped into condominiums are among the assets frozen by the court order.


    The order also includes the Tans’ family home in West Vancouver on Greenwood Road, a home in North Vancouver and a condominium in Pitt Meadows.
    One of the Surrey homes that was facing redevelopment. Jason Payne / PNG
    The properties owned by Virginia and Patrick Tan, their son Marcus and affiliated companies in the Lower Mainland, Surrey and Fort St. John have substantial mortgages on them, according to filings in B.C. Supreme Court.
    As part of the April 29 bankruptcy order by B.C. Supreme Court Justice Elliot Myers for Virginia and Patrick Tan, Boale, Wood and Co. has been appointed as trustee.
    The bankruptcy court filing also mentions a Toronto condominium sold by the Tans on May 2 for $492,000.
    Another house in Surrey that is among the frozen assets. Jason Payne / PNG
    The trustee will make an assessment of the Tans’ assets over the next few weeks.

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    Vancouver is very similar to Singapore. Sinkies who move to places like Toronto and Vancouver still have sinkie mindset.

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    sinkie greed. sinkie couple must have advertised high returns to attract other sinkies. only stupid sinkies will put all their eggs in one basket hoping to reap rewards. history keeps repeating itself.
    6.9 k's of sinkies: kopi, kaya toast, kueh kueh, kio kway, ktv, kpkb.

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    Wah RSAF pilot got $5million in savings!

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    Quote Originally Posted by nayr69sg View Post
    Wah RSAF pilot got $5million in savings!
    sell sinkie freehold terrace or semi-d home that is bought decades ago can easily bring wealth to pilot, thanks to sg and pap.
    6.9 k's of sinkies: kopi, kaya toast, kueh kueh, kio kway, ktv, kpkb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eatshitndie View Post
    sell sinkie freehold terrace or semi-d home that is bought decades ago can easily bring wealth to pilot, thanks to sg and pap.
    easy come. easy go. Aiyah nothing great with the sinkies who make money from property. No brainer. Bought at early time. PAP developed Singapore on the backs of foreign domestic maids. Property go up from manipulation of property market.

    These sinkies rich, yes, Multimillionaire yes. But have no idea what to do with the money. Easy come easy go. Not like if you actually earn the damn money, invested wisely moved the assets wisely.

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    When I grow up I want to be a sinkie pilot.

    Quote Originally Posted by eatshitndie View Post
    sell sinkie freehold terrace or semi-d home that is bought decades ago can easily bring wealth to pilot, thanks to sg and pap.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alamakinky View Post
    When I grow up I want to be a sinkie pilot.
    But I thought you're already in your 60s?
    sammyboy.com/showthread.php?242610-DPP-Chris-Ong-ask-for-30-years-the-3-HIGH-COURT-JUDGES-gave-3-5-years&p=2591011#post2591011
    Quote Originally Posted by flatearther View Post
    sammyboy.com/showthread.php?242610-DPP-Chris-Ong-ask-for-30-years-the-3-HIGH-COURT-JUDGES-gave-3-5-years&p=2590848#post2590848
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    COI is called for
    Oh wow I dont even recognise my former platoonmate.
    Then I'm guessing that you're between 60 and 65 years old, not yet 69.
    Because other than:
    wikipedia.org/wiki/Chao_Hick_Tin
    who was born in 1942 (and, therefore, never did NS), the other two:
    supremecourt.gov.sg/about-us/the-supreme-court-bench/justices
    were born in the mid-1950s, right?
    You might even share the same age with my father!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nayr69sg View Post
    easy come. easy go. Aiyah nothing great with the sinkies who make money from property. No brainer. Bought at early time. PAP developed Singapore on the backs of foreign domestic maids. Property go up from manipulation of property market.

    These sinkies rich, yes, Multimillionaire yes. But have no idea what to do with the money. Easy come easy go. Not like if you actually earn the damn money, invested wisely moved the assets wisely.
    Aiyah those 50s and 60s and above got it easy lah riding the wave from low base that went all the way up to 1997. Or those that graduated later in 2000s before prices went up again Those like me graduated in 1990s where got so easy to make money in properties? Come in after property price moved up and before the big crash. Three crashes​ in two decades. Not easy lah especially no HDB, need lots of guts and holding power. Don't deny us our due credit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alamakinky View Post
    When I grow up I want to be a sinkie pilot.
    Seriously pilot is the best job on earth lah. One "o" level old pilot told me his salary was higher than university graduate back then in 70s. And the airline paid for their pilot education. All free!

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    Seriously the Lau fighter pilot was sinkie. How you all know the Virginia Tan - the originator of the scheme - was sinkie or not? Mudlander cannot meh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginfreely View Post
    Seriously the Lau fighter pilot was sinkie. How you all know the Virginia Tan - the originator of the scheme - was sinkie or not? Mudlander cannot meh?
    Having said that, it's true though SINKIE TRAITOR DOGS certainly have no qualms to harm fellow sinkies in any way and plenty around no escape from them even if you are in another country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginfreely View Post
    Seriously pilot is the best job on earth lah. One "o" level old pilot told me his salary was higher than university graduate back then in 70s. And the airline paid for their pilot education. All free!
    What other job on earth will give a "o" level holder power to grow his eyes onto his forehead and think he has right to insult people?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginfreely View Post
    What other job on earth will give a "o" level holder power to grow his eyes onto his forehead and think he has right to insult people?
    don't be conned to be a pilot spending long hours of flight servicing human beings and in return fuck and screw stewardess repeatingly. deslave asap and be a free man.
    unless u r blinded by your itchy vagina and forgot you were/are a slave
    ** peace **

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    Quote Originally Posted by chootchiew View Post
    don't be conned to be a pilot spending long hours of flight servicing human beings and in return fuck and screw stewardess repeatingly. deslave asap and be a free man.
    unless u r blinded by your itchy vagina and forgot you were/are a slave
    Your evil FCM mother has an itchy CB and you go round so proud of that. Coward liar dare not take up NRIC virginity test challenge. Pui!

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    Btw don't be conned by this evil FCM that pilots work long hours. I can't remember exact but heard from one before worked like 13 days only in one month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ginfreely View Post
    Btw don't be conned by this evil FCM that pilots work long hours. I can't remember exact but heard from one before worked like 13 days only in one month.
    Best job only risk is terrorist but then i buy house in JB also kena terrorist attack by neighbours and JB cockroaches so better to be earning money and kena terrorist rather than spend money and instead of getting thanks get terrorist attack and a virgin become slut whore mistress and porn star.

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    Something about farewells, fools and money, I reckon.

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    Theres a saying It's a sin to let a fool keep his money,LKY has always abided by this rule all his life and
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    There's something irresistible about Ponzi schemes and sinkies,like a moth to a bright light they are drawn closely,the warmth,the security,the feeling of being rich when they "look" at their CPF accounts.the only difference is ur not allowed to withdraw legally from one thus ensuring the
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