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Serious Trump Tells Merkel "O$P$ For NATO Military Spending".

JohnTan

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President Donald Trump unleashed a diatribe against Germany on Saturday, saying Berlin owes “vast sums of money” to Nato and must pay Washington more for security.

His latest tweetstorm comes a day after he met German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Washington, where the two leaders showed little common ground over a host of thorny issues, including Nato and defence spending.

On Saturday, Trump tweeted: “Germany owes vast sums of money to Nato & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defence it provides to Germany!”


He prefaced his statement by lashing out at the news media.

“Despite what you have heard from the FAKE NEWS,” he tweeted, “I had a GREAT meeting with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.”

During his joint news conference with Merkel on Friday, Trump demanded that America’s allies in the military alliance pay back “vast sums of money from past years.”

Merkel said Germany had committed to increasing its military spending to two percent of GDP, a target Nato member states formally agreed in 2014 to reach within 10 years.

Trump set the tone for his relations with Merkel during his campaign last year, saying her decision to allow refugees into Germany was a “catastrophic mistake” and suggesting she was “ruining Germany.”

He also made European defence spending an issue during his campaign, saying the United States – which spends just over 3 per cent of its GDP on defence – carries too much of the financial burden for supporting Nato.

He has also worried US allies by criticising the military alliance as “obsolete” at a time many of its members are concerned about Russia’s aggressive posture on the continent.

Russia annexed the Black Sea peninsula Crimea from Ukraine in 2014 and has backed separatist rebels in eastern Ukraine.

US defence spending – US$679 billion (S$950 billion) in 2016 – accounts for 68 per cent of the total defense budgets of Nato’s 28 members.

Besides the United States (at 3.36 per cent of GDP), only Britain (2.17 per cent), Poland (2.01 per cent), Estonia (2.18 per cent) and Greece (2.36 per cent) currently reach the goal, according to Nato estimates for 2016.

http://www.straitstimes.com/world/united-states/germany-owes-nato-vast-sums-donald-trump
 

HTOLAS

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SCROTUS Trump is talking through his arsehole.

The only country in NATO to have been helped by the invocation of Article 5 of the NATO Treaty (Collective Defence provision), which says that an attack on an country is an attack on all NATO members, is the United States of America.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

In other words, the only time NATO came to the defence of a fellow member when it was attacked, was when it came to the defence of USA on 12 Sep 2001. This declaration was subsequently put into action when NATO supported various misguided actions in Bush's 'war on terror'.

If SCROTUS wants to be small minded about this sort of thing, the US will suffer the most.
 

Leongsam

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SCROTUS Trump is talking through his arsehole.

The only country in NATO to have been helped by the invocation of Article 5 of the NATO Treaty (Collective Defence provision), which says that an attack on an country is an attack on all NATO members, is the United States of America.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

In other words, the only time NATO came to the defence of a fellow member when it was attacked, was when it came to the defence of USA on 12 Sep 2001. This declaration was subsequently put into action when NATO supported various misguided actions in Bush's 'war on terror'.

If SCROTUS wants to be small minded about this sort of thing, the US will suffer the most.

That does not alter the fact that the USA should not have to subsidise Germany. The krauts have plenty of money.
 

Ang4MohTrump

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Bankrupt Beggar Ang Mohs are all fucking each other over $$$money$$$ which they all lack. Soon will go to war and kill each other over $$$money$$$.

What else can they do? Sell backside?

:biggrin:


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tanwahtiu

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with Trump you don't find USA go to war from today.

Many will opt to go massage with Trump.

Drop dead go to war, massage much preferred.
 

syed putra

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US military spending goes back into the US economy, research facilities and development aid.
german buys some aircraft from the US.some missiles maybe. and NATO communication equipment.
This lack of military spending could be one reason why Europe has superior welfare compared to US.Germany has free healthcare and education.
 

ramai

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That does not alter the fact that the USA should not have to subsidise Germany. The krauts have plenty of money.

They have plenty of money to help refugees but don't have money to fulfill their military spending obligation to NATO.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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SCROTUS Trump is talking through his arsehole.

The only country in NATO to have been helped by the invocation of Article 5 of the NATO Treaty (Collective Defence provision), which says that an attack on an country is an attack on all NATO members, is the United States of America.

http://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/topics_110496.htm

In other words, the only time NATO came to the defence of a fellow member when it was attacked, was when it came to the defence of USA on 12 Sep 2001. This declaration was subsequently put into action when NATO supported various misguided actions in Bush's 'war on terror'.

If SCROTUS wants to be small minded about this sort of thing, the US will suffer the most.

I agree with you......... Trump is an asshole n a clown in the world stage................................ NATO is vanguard against Russia and US is getting it cheap
Afganistan, Iraq and Syria bankrupted USA......... and they want money back from others in the world???
 

JohnTan

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I agree with you......... Trump is an asshole n a clown in the world stage................................ NATO is vanguard against Russia and US is getting it cheap
Afganistan, Iraq and Syria bankrupted USA......... and they want money back from others in the world???

The yankees have been mismanging their military budget for years.

The yankees outspend their Russian rivals easily 10-to-1, but yet still view the Ivans as a major threat. Also, the yankees have been making a mess of their foreign intervention everywhere they went since after the korean war. The americans need real generals who know their stuff, and not the usual numbskulls who depend so heavily on air and naval power to extricate their ground troops when things go awry.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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US military spending goes back into the US economy, research facilities and development aid.
german buys some aircraft from the US.some missiles maybe. and NATO communication equipment.
This lack of military spending could be one reason why Europe has superior welfare compared to US.Germany has free healthcare and education.

redneck splurged while European manage their economies better....... but Trump wants them to cough up more
 

congo9

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I agree with you......... Trump is an asshole n a clown in the world stage................................ NATO is vanguard against Russia and US is getting it cheap
Afganistan, Iraq and Syria bankrupted USA......... and they want money back from others in the world???

Then EU and Germany must pay their dues. A few billion dollars a year plus the expenses to take care of troops and the bases is good enough.
 

virus

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so how much should sinkieland charge US for changi navel base? can charge US$15 bln a year, if low ball means see them no up.
 

congo9

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so how much should sinkieland charge US for changi navel base? can charge US$15 bln a year, if low ball means see them no up.

USA should charge Singkie land so that USA can park their ship And Marines here. After that we can start to colonize Malaysia and Indonesia and Vietnam.

Together Singapore forms the co-prosperity sphere.
 

steffychun

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USA should charge Singkie land so that USA can park their ship And Marines here. After that we can start to colonize Malaysia and Indonesia and Vietnam.

Together Singapore forms the co-prosperity sphere.

Singapore already colonised by FTs
 
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