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Chitchat Surge pricing for taxis set for take off, commuters expect to lose out

Ralders

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The Second Minister for Transport already told Parliament yesterday that taxi companies should be allowed to innovate and adapt to new market conditions and competition. This is the clearest sign yet that surge pricing would soon be allowed for the taxi companies.

We Singaporeans just bite the bullet. Soon, not only do we have to face questions of taxi availability, but also fare uncertainty, as fares throughout the day will not be same even if we are going to the same location. With the daily minimum mileage requirement for taxis also having been removed last year, this now seems like a losing situation for commuters. Taxi companies will come out of this as the clear winners.

And with Uber and Grab drivers also maybe having to have provisional taxi licences too, everything point towards taxi companies taking control over the market once again.
 

Narong Wongwan

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If flag down taxi on the road got surge price? How to charge?
So taxi companies are giving up the one and only competitive edge they have left over uber/grab with surge pricing
 

chiefjustice

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If flag down taxi on the road got surge price? How to charge?
So taxi companies are giving up the one and only competitive edge they have left over uber/grab with surge pricing

what would happen if Taxi still cannot compete with Uber and grab after implementing surge pricing? who to blame?
 

Ralders

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If flag down taxi on the road got surge price? How to charge?
So taxi companies are giving up the one and only competitive edge they have left over uber/grab with surge pricing

Fare sure to rise.
Surge pricing to them is no demand maintain fare.
Got demand increase fare.
On the whole is ??????
 

scroobal

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There is no science behind it and no rational that they can articulate. They have run the out of ideas and just trying their luck.
 

krafty

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i read Grab have reverted back to their normal pricing, looks like a good move to counter competition.
 

aurvandil

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This is a foolish move. Meter price fare certainty was the only reason the taxi companies managed to hold on a shrinking share of the booking market. When that fare certainty is gone, there is no reason for existing customers to continue to book taxis. There will be an exodus to Uber/Grab. Once customers have gone through the trouble of setting up a Uber/Grab account, the taxis companies will most likely to lose these customers for good. Taxi drivers will be reduced to relying on street hails for their main source of income.
 

Leongsam

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Surge pricing matches supply and demand at all times of the day. It means that anyone who wants a taxi will be able to get one even at peak hours.

It's a great move and one that is long overdue.
 

frenchbriefs

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Surge pricing matches supply and demand at all times of the day. It means that anyone who wants a taxi will be able to get one even at peak hours.

It's a great move and one that is long overdue.

the reason they call it peak hour is because everyone has to go to work or school at that time,its not a matter of whether they choose to or not,this is not going to change the supply or demand relationship.everybody is out on the highway between 7am to 8.30am.....if PAP wanted to manage traffic conditions and reduce peak hour jams they would have mandated that companies change their starting work time allocation.but then again who wants to go to work 2 or 3 hours earlier than others?

they already have a peak hour surchage,

if PAP wants to fix traffic jams they need to watch this video

[video=youtube;iHzzSao6ypE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHzzSao6ypE[/video]
 
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Leongsam

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the reason they call it peak hour is because everyone has to go to work or school at that time,its not a matter of whether they choose to or not,this is not going to change the supply or demand relationship.everybody is out on the highway between 7am to 8.30am.....if PAP wanted to manage traffic conditions and reduce peak hour jams they would have mandated that companies change their starting work time allocation.but then again who wants to go to work 2 or 3 hours earlier than others?

You seem to be ignorant of the basics of demand.

I suggest you watch this video :

https://youtu.be/ShzPtU7IOXs

Once surge pricing is established a certain segment of the commuting public who used to take taxis between 7 am and 8.30 am will now no longer be able to afford the trip so they'll end up having to take a bus or train instead.

The price increase from allowing surge pricing will cause a drop in demand for taxis during peak hours so those who can afford to pay a higher price will find it far easier to get a cab.
 

frenchbriefs

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You seem to be ignorant of the basics of demand.

I suggest you watch this video :

https://youtu.be/ShzPtU7IOXs

Once surge pricing is established a certain segment of the commuting public who used to take taxis between 7 am and 8.30 am will now no longer be able to afford the trip so they'll end up having to take a bus or train instead.

The price increase from allowing surge pricing will cause a drop in demand for taxis during peak hours so those who can afford to pay a higher price will find it far easier to get a cab.

they already have something called peak hour surcharge so why doesnt that work?and how do they find the sweet spot between people choosing not to take cabs and cabs not finding enough passengers due to overprice,in that case why not allow flexible pricing so taxi drivers can adjust their fares according to the current market situation?dont u find it retarded that taxis have a 50 percent midnight surcharge when theres barely any fares,and so many empty taxis zooming around?why not let taxi drivers slash prices by 50 percent?they know if they let drivers set their own prices,these will spark off a competition and eventually taxi drivers will compete each other to death.and if the problem is a matter of lack of supply during peak hours,wouldnt the logical solution be to increase the number of taxis to absorb the excess demand?because no matter how u try to twist the numbers,eventually the numbers will find a equilibrium and u are stuck earning the same amount of money while those that are priced out of the market guess what u have lost out on the opportunity to exploit that market.......its like APPLE making ipods and iphones for $10,000,only the top 5 percentile of the population can afford them,Apple would have lost out of 90 percent of the market.Its like the Lisa,and Mac and NEXT computer,steve jobs made them far too expensive and far too useless thats why they all failed miserably,nobody wants to buy $10,000 personal computers except for the most diehard apple fantards.

let me ask u why does coe and erp not work?the roads are always fucking jammed in the morning,in fact the roads are fucking jammed all the time now at all kinds of strange hours theres always a jam going on.what a joke,i take public transport 98 percent of the time,the 2 percent of the time i take a cab,the goddam roads are always jammed.maybe PAP should increase COE to $1 million?and take away bidding,cause if u are letting people bid the price,they are only going to pay what they can afford,eventually the market will find a equilibrium and stablize at a point,but the traffic is still going to be fucked up anyway.


all economic theories must take into account human behaviour or they are useless garbage theories,all einstein's law dictate that all humans are retarded so theres no point.the price must increase to a point where it actually hurts the consumer for it to be effective,however those who already decided they are going to take the public transport have already made up their mind long ago and left their house early,those who are going to take the taxi will take it anyway and those who are late or overslept which a certain portion of humanity always does will fork out the money.
 
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