• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Serious Ang Mohs can no loger match PRC military Ang Moh Trump KPKB!

Ang4MohTrump

Alfrescian
Loyal
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-...og-chinese-military-reaching-near-parity-west

America Is No Longer Top Dog: Chinese Military "Reaching Near-Parity" With The West
Tyler Durden's picture
by Tyler Durden
Feb 19, 2017 7:20 PM

Submitted by Daniel Lang via SHTFPlan.com,

The United States military is without a doubt the most technologically advanced force on the planet, and has been since at least World War II. Most Western nations are likewise, heavily dependent on advanced technology. When the West wins wars, it’s not because of moxy or numbers or cunning. It’s because we can detonate our enemies from miles away on a whim.

In response, our rivals have spent decades trying to compensate with those aforementioned traits. They’re the ones who rely on fighting spirit, cannon fodder, and clever underhanded tactics. They, which includes Russia, China, and lord knows how many insurgents and terrorists, have mastered the domain of unconventional warfare. And they’ve done so by necessity. We’re a wealthy nation with an unbelievably massive military budget. They could never conduct enough scientific research or build enough advanced war machines to compete with us in a conventional war.

Or could they?

It appears that China might be able to. Or at least that’s what the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) thinks. They’re a British think tank that’s been around since 1958, and they have countless members who formerly worked for the British and American governments. The IISS specializes in researching geopolitical issues, and every year they publish the Military Balance report, which examines the military capabilities of the world’s nations. Their latest issue should give the American defense establishment pause.

“Western military technological superiority, once taken for granted, is increasingly challenged,” Dr. John Chipman, Director-General and Chief Executive of IISS, said in a statement.



“We now judge that in some capability areas, particularly in the air domain, China appears to be reaching near-parity with the West.”



Instead of its usual practice of working on systems that imitate Soviet and Russian technology, China has shifted its efforts (and budget) to domestic research and development. Its Navy is currently working on three new advanced cruisers, 13 destroyers, and outfitting other ships with better radar.

Most shocking were the claims that China is making fast gains in the air war domain. This is an arena that Western nations have dominated since World War II. It could be argued that the United States hasn’t won any war since the 1940’s without that advantage. Now they’re catching up, partly with their own domestic military research, and partly with research that they’ve stolen from us.

So the question is, what happens if a nation that has already mastered unconventional warfare also reaches parity with the United States when it comes to conventional warfare? Let’s just say that the results won’t be pretty for us should we come to blows with China. Perhaps the Trump and his administration should tread lightly in East Asia, if they want to avoid a rather embarrassing conflict in that region.






0592948dea.jpg
 

Ang4MohTrump

Alfrescian
Loyal
[video=youtube_share;2o1F6EIggeI]https://youtu.be/2o1F6EIggeI[/video]

14780665914358.jpg



http://www.dw.com/en/chinas-military-progress-challenges-western-dominance-says-iiss/a-37552817

China's military progress challenges Western dominance, says IISS

Chinese military technology is reaching "near-parity" with the West, a new report from the London-based think tank IISS has found. Western dominance in advanced military systems can no longer be taken for granted.
China Südchinesisches Meer - Manöver (picture-alliance/AP Photo/Xinhua/Z. Chunming)

China accounted for a third of Asia's military spending in 2016 and was looking to sell more arms abroad, the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS) said in a report on Tuesday.

China's overall defense budget last year was $145 billion (137 billion euros), 1.8 times higher than South Korea and Japan combined. China's spending was topped only by the United States which spent $604.5 billion (572 billion euros) on defense in 2016.

On air power, China "appears to be reaching near-parity with the West," IISS said, adding that Chinese-made drones had been seen in Nigeria and Saudi Arabia.

Its sales in Africa had moved beyond Soviet-era designs to exports of systems designed in China itself, the think tank's report found.

China's air force had introduced a "highly capable" short-range missile in a class only a handful of leading aerospace nations had been able to develop, it added.
DW recommends
As Trump re-evaluates NATO, NATO must rethink Russia

With tensions running high in NATO, it seems the alliance is in sore need of a fresh course on Russia and a new deal on security. A former US ambassador to Moscow and an ex-German envoy to NATO gave their takes to DW. (12.02.2017)
China sends aircraft carrier to Pacific for first time

China's navy has sent a carrier battle group to the Pacific to conduct military drills for the first time. The projection of power comes amid tensions with Taiwan and the US in the South China Sea. (25.12.2016)
Facing Trump and Putin, NATO and EU renew their vows

NATO and the EU have agreed to a seven-point plan to counter cyberattacks, information warfare and irregular militia. The alliance's foreign ministers are meeting for the first since the election of Donald Trump. (06.12.2016)

Additionally, China's long range air-to-air missile seen on exercise last year posed a risk for aircraft tankers and AWACS surveillance aircraft that previously loitered safe out of range.

Given China's advances Western dominance "can no longer be taken for granted," said IISS director John Chipman.

NATO members falling short

Across all nations, there was a "growing proliferation of lethality," the IISS concluded, warning the West that increasing sophistication was "complicating" its military options.

In a reference to NATO, the institute said European nations were "only gradually" increasing their defense spending, an issue highlighted by the new US President Donald Trump.

Only two European NATO nations - Greece and Estonia - met the aim of spending 2 percent of their gross domestic product (GDP) on defense in 2016, concluded the IISS.

The report also noted that Britain spent 1.98 percent of its GDP on defense, falling short of the 2 percent NATO target. A spokesman with the British Ministry of Defense denied the shortfall, saying that "NATO's own figures clearly show the UK spends over 2 percent of its GDP on defense."

Both British officials and the IISS emphasized that the UK's defense budget is still the largest in Europe.


[video=youtube_share;D717ln3whqM]https://youtu.be/D717ln3whqM[/video]
 
Last edited:

tanwahtiu

Alfrescian
Loyal
Yeah right. The American aready lost convention war with the Jap in Onikawa.

Then shamelessly used nuke to win.

What is convention war? Nuke is convention war and more deadly ones they hidhe fron each others.
 

3_M

Alfrescian
Loyal
I will personally take such study with a pinch of salt. Many of the think tank and academic act more like a lobbyist for military just to get more defence funding by overly exaggerating the capability of China
 

WW3Concert

Alfrescian
Loyal
I will personally take such study with a pinch of salt. Many of the think tank and academic act more like a lobbyist for military just to get more defence funding by overly exaggerating the capability of China

Just objectively look at undisputed facts. China at aggressive speed picked up everything, and surpassed USA in many areas of cutting edge status. USA lost all it momentum and internally broken down with tremendous amount of crisis.

Trump's dreams are far-fetched and too unrealistic, he will only cause faster chaotic disintegration.


I am talking about THE Logically Inevitable Outcome.
 
Last edited:

virus

Alfrescian
Loyal
i've instructed 11 to achieve this within 6 month period, in the next 6 month, liaoning will sail toward rhode island n park there for a week.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
The chinks may have hardware and numbers but they lack the most important ingredient when it comes to warfare... BALLS.
 

scroobal

Alfrescian
Loyal
Your confidence in their hardware is breathtaking. Name one piece of equipment in your home made by a Chinese company. Not MNC contract manfacuring.

The chinks may have hardware and numbers but they lack the most important ingredient when it comes to warfare... BALLS.
 

virus

Alfrescian
Loyal
balls? americans now kpkb the tax and conscript dodging socalled president wearing bomber jacket. balls.... the general got seal ryan killed.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
Your confidence in their hardware is breathtaking. Name one piece of equipment in your home made by a Chinese company. Not MNC contract manfacuring.

Nowhere did I endorse their hardware. It sucks but that's secondary compared to their lack of courage.

The PLA is good at shooting its own unarmed citizens. Put them in a real war and they'd all run to mummy.
 

tanwahtiu

Alfrescian
Loyal
British empire are balless. Dare not go war alone but must formed allied.

8 countries attacked China in 1st opium war.

2 countries allied in 2nd opium war. British and France. Whereas other countries prefer trading with China.

Then France went solo try invaded China and failed miserably.

Tgis time if China formed allies many countries will join them. Time to return USA to the Indians get rid of angmohs back to England where tgey belong.
 
Last edited:

war is best form of peace

Alfrescian
Loyal
The chinks may have hardware and numbers but they lack the most important ingredient when it comes to warfare... BALLS.

Balls Chinese WIN 500X over Americans especially today, when the old days, Americans' grandpa had balls to Die following orders, in WW2. In Korean Wars and Vietnam Wars, Chinese volunteers and Communist Brothers together, beat Americans with poor Arms and Lousy War Machines, but Larger Balls and Resolve. Fearless of deaths; pains; suffering; losses and Destructions. Won the Wars and out lasted the Americans. Chairman Mao ordered his own son Mao An Qing to Die at Korean Wars Front Line, unshakable!

TodayZ's Yankee long lost their cowboy grandpa's balls. Generals repeatedly openly announced that as commanders their duty #1 is to Protect Lives of their men! Their men are Bapok Cowards and babies can not die. Can not be captured POW by enemies! So they dare not face ISIS until Putin bombed in Syria.

Chinese are hornered to Die for China and Communist Party. Respected as Martyrs, and let their loved ones enjoy honor and lifetime benefits as officially respected status of Martyrs' Families 军属烈属待遇。Millions are willing to Die.

Regardless weather as warriors or just duty of policemen or fire fighters or disaster rescuers, always, there are many willing becoming Nationally Recognized and Awarded Martyrs. In USA they only betray veterans, and the veterans like mad beggars, committed mass shootings to revenge against America.

Balls wise Ang Moh lost to Chinese big big time, quantumatically defeated!
 
Last edited:

war is best form of peace

Alfrescian
Loyal
..

TodayZ's Yankee long lost their cowboy grandpa's balls. Generals repeatedly openly announced that as commanders their duty #1 is to Protect Lives of their men! ..

As commanders their job function and requirements are that they are capable to order their men to accomplish missions fulfill objectives of war, and DIE FOR THIS BRAVELY if needed, and regardless how many men died, commanders are to deliver their war objectives even at the expense of own lives, LIKE A SOLDIER! Objective of war comes 1st not lives of soldiers. Basic duty requirement of soldiers is to fight to death, at the lost of their own lives fulfill and deliver the objective of war. Ang Moh have all the WRONG STUPID Values of lives, and are very childish about wars. Regardless how big the number, death toll is only just a number, and reducing the global population by war is practically the ONLY WAY & CHANCE to bring planet earth back to balance, to evade a TOTAL EXTINCTION by way of over-population and over-consumption of LIMITED vital resources left on this planet.

To be truly practical for survival, death toll is to be MAXIMIZED especially on CIVILIANS, by way of massive war and carnage, or else, TOTAL EXTINCTION will be around the corner, when remaining resources (including critical quality of global environment) is EXHAUSTED BY HUMAN CONSUMPTIONS (& RUIN).
 
Last edited:

garlic

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
It's true, China has been on near-parity with western powers militarily for the past ten years. I believe ten years later, they will still be on near-parity..
 

frenchbriefs

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
I look forward to the day of waking up to smell of napalm in the morning in Boston and Chicago.and having me love you long time suky fuky with 5 dorrar American hooker.
 

frenchbriefs

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Nowhere did I endorse their hardware. It sucks but that's secondary compared to their lack of courage.

The PLA is good at shooting its own unarmed citizens. Put them in a real war and they'd all run to mummy.

Chinks are peace loving creatures,our weapons and technology are for show only.
 

Ang4MohTrump

Alfrescian
Loyal
It's true, China has been on near-parity with western powers militarily for the past ten years. I believe ten years later, they will still be on near-parity..


The speed China is progressively developing currently is UNPRECEDENTED in history of planet earth. USA EU Russia Japan etc, will be ALL far lagging are greater and greater distance BEHIND, can not even smell exhaust smoke trailing too far behind.

http://slide.mil.news.sina.com.cn/k/slide_8_193_48870.html#p=7

PRC just broadcasted Live Real Time high resolution video from their new satellite 600km above sea, clearly showing airport runway and planes, they can surely live monitor flight deck of every US Navy Carrier! Ang Moh Trump can not hide! Xijinping knows more intelligence info than Whitehouse.

193_242182_265314.jpg


0592948dea.jpg
 
Last edited:

Ang4MohTrump

Alfrescian
Loyal
http://news.qq.com/a/20160530/040042.htm


吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步
腾讯网·军事频道2016-05-30 15:05
我要分享
0

135027243.jpg


美女最怕什么?当然是小视频于计划外泄露导致自己变成网红,这样的事情美国海军刚刚经历了一番。2016年5月,中国长光卫星公司公布了吉林一号A卫星拍摄的美海军费城造船厂图片,不仅停泊港内的航母清晰可见,甚至飞行甲板结构都能清晰辨认

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:吉林一号拍摄的费城海军造船厂照片。

根据专业人士的结论,要发现航母的存在,需要卫星的地面分辨率达到15米,要识别航母与超级油轮,需要分辨率达到7米。吉林一号A这张图片能让人看清航母上的弹射器、舰岛、降落道和舷侧武器平台,靠的是达到0.72米的高分辨率。

虽然这已经是我国卫星发布的最高分辨率图片,但实际上吉林一号并不是以高分辨率为卖点的卫星。它由4颗小卫星组成,主星吉林一号光学A星重420公斤,分辨率为全色0.72米;1颗重65公斤的灵巧成像验证星,分辨率优于5米;2颗各重95公斤的灵巧成像视频星,分辨率为1.12米。

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:长光卫星公司的目标,50公斤级光学侦察卫星。

一般光学侦察卫星的重量通常在2-5吨之间,比吉林一号4颗星加起来都重3倍以上。放着大的不做做小的,可见长光人绝对不是直男癌。讲真,大家之前不做小卫星只是因为做不到,镜头、控制、燃料每个部件都那么大,整星当然轻不了。近地轨道一公斤载荷发射费就要5000美元,卫星重量多1吨,发射费就多500万美元,谁不想剩下这笔钱呢。

长光公司的目标是做50-400公斤重的微型卫星,用一颗大卫星的发射费送十颗小卫星上去,建立庞大的卫星网络,从而在极短时间内拍摄地球表面任意一点。按照他们的计划,今年要发射16颗卫星,实现全球3-4小时重访一次。2020年时发射60颗卫星,30分钟重访一次。2030年时发射137颗卫星,10分钟重访一次。也就是说,那时候大家叫了个外卖半天不到也不接电话,怎么办呢?呼叫卫星看一下车到哪了吧。

当然外卖电动车可能小了点卫星看不到,但城市堵车、高速公路事故、飞机坠毁、森林火灾、台风海啸……这么多大家需要及时知道的东西,吉林一号都能提供。长光公司的意思是,这么好的东西,大家怎么能不来一发呢?

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:当前人造地球卫星分布图,可以清楚地识别出近地轨道、大椭圆轨道和地球同步轨道。

虽然吉林一号是出于和平目的开发的,但既然美军可以在海湾和科索沃等战争中征用民用卫星,那么中国自然也可以这么做。高重返周期的卫星与高分辨率结合,可以对众多战场敏感目标进行识别监视,大幅改变战争形态。

拿空军作战来说,24架编制的航空团/中队出动准备时间要半小时以上,卫星如果看到机场内有大量汽车、拖车停在飞机旁边,就能判断对方即将全体出动,然后通知火箭军愉快的来一发弹道导弹,将其摧毁在地面。打完之后,第二颗卫星立即过顶再次拍照,进行打击效果评估,发现有漏网之鱼就再来一发,让小朋友们哭都没有地方。

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:被炸毁在俄军驻叙利亚机场的米-24直升机和苏-25攻击机,今后这将成为常态。

伟人说,一切不以结婚为目的的谈恋爱都是耍流氓。拿到现在,就是一切不以要经费为目的的宣传都是耍流氓。长光公司之所以要打广告,很可能是因为他还没有拿到后续经费支持。我国绝大多数卫星都是空间技术研究院制造的,少部分是上海航天技术研究院制造的,清华北大北航等等牛逼高校只能做点技术验证星,根本干不了正事。长光公司虽然是国内卫星最大、最强的光学系统提供商,但之前也没多少整星积累。没有积累就没有人脉,没有人脉就难拿到经费,于是只好攒点人气来冲关。

对国家来说,这是一件好事,独家生意总会让人懒惰,池塘里多一条鲶鱼,大家最后会活得更好。

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:长光公司产品线,当前还只有直径1.1米的光学镜头,未来4年内就会升级到2米,届时分辨率又会有大幅提高。

当前我国已经发射高分4号同步轨道卫星,可以不间断的扫描西太平洋和东印度洋大型目标,其单张照片面积就有400乘400公里那么大,海洋再辽阔也能搜索。虽然以它50米分辨率的老花眼看不清物体是什么,但吉林一号看得清啊,如果二者珠联璧合,美海军躲都躲不开。也许下一次长光公司发照片的时候,就是航行中的美国航母了。

即使长光公司能按计划拿到经费,今年也只能发射16颗卫星上天,每3-4小时看一次航母还是太慢,不能满足为飞行中的导弹提供指引的要求,更不能满足陆军战术侦察的要求。到2020年时半小时重访一次,才称得上时刻监控潜在目标,让对方一举一动都无法脱离视线。

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:0.3米与0.7米分辨率卫星图片的区别。

需要说明的是,由于吉林一号系列走的是高重访周期的小卫星路线,所以其分辨率不会很高,我国真正走高分辨率路线的卫星另有其人。2020年长光公司2米口径的镜头使用后,配套卫星的地面分辨率将可以提高到0.1-0.3米,前者是理论极限,后者是可能实现的水平。当然随着逐渐调试,最终肯定能接近理论指标。

如此高的分辨率,当然不能用来看航母这种傻大粗苯的东西。冷战时期,能达到这一分辨率的卫星图片用来拍摄敌方最新武器,以绘制平面视图、估计尺寸大小,据此判断武器性能。另一种用途是搜索、识别弹道导弹机动发射车,为远程打击指示目标。

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:俄公布马航MH17被乌克兰苏-27击落卫星照片。图的真假还不能确定,但1980年代美军卫星图片上的苏-27就是这样,可以勉强用于判断性能。

全世界最早达到这一理论极限的还是美国人,他们1963年发射的锁眼7号卫星就达到0.6米的分辨率,1980年后的数据虽未公开,但猜测那时就已经达到0.1米的分辨率,此后这一指标再未提高,转而追求长寿命、低价格、高重访周期等指标。其它国家卫星性能都要差一大截,2000年后才普遍达到1米以下的分辨率,与美国商业卫星的水平相当。

这没什么可说的,努力追赶吧。不过吉林一号卫星的另辟蹊径,让人看到了中国科研工作者的智慧和努力。

吉林一号拍的美航母看爽了吗?这只是计划的第一步

图注:美帝之所以被称为美帝,那尖端技术真不是盖的,0.1米极限他们在80年代就达到了。
正文已结束,您可以按alt+4进行评论
相关阅读:
吉林一号
反航母
侦察卫星
·吉林一号卫星发射升空 可拍摄地面小于1米物体 2015.10.08
·我国成功发射“吉林一号”商业卫星组星 2015.10.07
·吉林一号遥感卫星发射开创我国商业卫星先河 2015.10.07
·我国将发射首颗民用对地观测卫星"吉林一号" 2015.02.10


So this 吉林一号 satellite belong only to a Chinese Civilian Business Satellite Company! Capable of spying Live Video of US Carrier flight decks so clearly!

0592948dea.jpg
 

virus

Alfrescian
Loyal
no need worry about china, they hv not intention to invade sinkie land. they need us more then we need them.

now is time for sinkie to fall in with the rest n help china build up.
 

ChineseDog

Alfrescian
Loyal
The chinks may have hardware and numbers but they lack the most important ingredient when it comes to warfare... BALLS.

good job my fellow honorary Chinese dog. We chinks lack balls!

Your confidence in their hardware is breathtaking. Name one piece of equipment in your home made by a Chinese company. Not MNC contract manfacuring.

good job my fellow Chinese dog. We chinks make crappy equipment.

Nowhere did I endorse their hardware. It sucks but that's secondary compared to their lack of courage.

The PLA is good at shooting its own unarmed citizens. Put them in a real war and they'd all run to mummy.

good job my fellow honorary Chinese dog. We chinks lack courage and run to mummy!
 
Top