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Serious 400,000 Taiwanese Hakka and Aborigines massacred by Japanese

HonkieSingie

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Hey guys aborigines means local original inhabitants why so many discussions about mix with angmoh and mix with Han?

Anyway these original Taiwanese are the pacific people same stock polynesians and even the original filipinos before they were raped by europeans. Taiwanese aborigines language have similarity to tagalog too.

Filipinos have only a few European genes. DNA show they are less than 1.5% European only their surnames is Hispanicnized like their religion.
 

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the only famous hakka i can see in the internet lists is sun yat sen - all minor pp otherwise.


Historian say Sun Yat Sen father is Cantonese and mother is Hakka other's say it was the other way around. He clearly had ancestry from area long before Hakka was even in Guangdong.
 

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The Hakkas are always at the forefront of revolution and change. There are many Hakkas among Chinese revolutionists fighting to end the rule of the Qing dynasty. Many early senior members of the Chinese Communist Party and Red Army are Hakkas. The present and former presidents of ROC are Hakkas too. And in our own short history, I do not have to mention the role they have played ....

Hakkas are strong, tough, and are soldiers . However I'm not impressed, even if you combine Hakka in ROC, Communist party with other Wu Chinese, Mandarin speaking leaders they are still garbage


VERY SIMPLE

Tell me why these murderous Japanese were able to create such a huge empire while the Chinese Communisty Party and ROC can not?


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Hakkas are strong, tough, and are soldiers . However I'm not impressed, even if you combine Hakka in ROC, Communist party with other Wu Chinese, Mandarin speaking leaders they are still garbage


VERY SIMPLE

Tell me why these murderous Japanese were able to create such a huge empire while the Chinese Communisty Party and ROC can not?


Japan held onto its huge empire for just 4 years, so nothing much to crow about. China faced 4 major invasions in its history. the first 3 invasions succeeded. Japan was a much bigger nation than the previous 3 conquerors, had more resources and their military strength was overwhelmingly superior to China. KMT general Bai Chongxi said that it takes 10 Chinese divisions ( 10K each ) to properly fight 1 Japanese division ( 25K ) back then. but the Japanese leaders simply lacked the will and the vision to conquer the whole of China. because of that the Japanese empire was short-lived and met its inevitable end.
 

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Japan held onto its huge empire for just 4 years, so nothing much to crow about. China faced 4 major invasions in its history. the first 3 invasions succeeded. Japan was a much bigger nation than the previous 3 conquerors, had more resources and their military strength was overwhelmingly superior to China. KMT general Bai Chongxi said that it takes 10 Chinese divisions ( 10K each ) to properly fight 1 Japanese division ( 25K ) back then. but the Japanese leaders simply lacked the will and the vision to conquer the whole of China. because of that the Japanese empire was short-lived and met its inevitable end.


But they were fighting up against many Superpower empires of it's time to get to such a huge empire.

They defeated Russian, Dutch, British, Germans and occupied the colonies France, Portugal, American.

Japanese occupied large chunks of China but China can never occupy Japan. Without America's military help and it's atomic bomb, Japanese would have conquered most of China.


Some think Asia would be like this today had not been for America

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Too bad Japan didn't make it to Australia. Would have been nice if they capture at least half of Australia. Maybe then, Japan will have to apologise for the invasion.
 

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Japan held onto its huge empire for just 4 years, so nothing to crow about ....but the Japanese leaders simply lacked the will and the vision to conquer the whole of China. because of that the Japanese empire was short-lived and met its inevitable end.

China is a huge country and can afford to retreat its troops to the interior and mountains and continue to engage and fight the enemy forces. Though the Japanese Imperial Army is superior in terms of air-power and ground forces, they no longer can make headway on the battlefield once KMT moved its war-time capital to Chungking. To maintain its war momentum, the JIA has no choice but to move southwards and turn to invade the smaller and weaker nations in SE Asia.
 

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China is a huge country and can afford to retreat its troops to the interior and mountains and continue to engage and fight the enemy forces. Though the Japanese Imperial Army is superior in terms of air-power and ground forces, they no longer can make headway on the battlefield once KMT moved its war-time capital to Chungking. To maintain its war momentum, the JIA has no choice but to move southwards and turn to invade the smaller and weaker nations in SE Asia.


the Japanese leaders were overconfident and underestimated the Chinese people's determination to defend their country and dignity. they boasted of capturing Shanghai in 2 weeks, conquering North China in 1 month and whole of China within 3 months, at the least the KMT will sue for peace and accept all their demands. the Shanghai battle lasted for 3 months and 2 weeks until the KMT chose to tactically withdraw its forces from the city, claiming that the military and political objectives were achieved. Japan's dream of conquering China within 3 months was destroyed, it became a long bitter 8 years attrition war till her final defeat at the end of ww2.
 

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But they were fighting up against many Superpower empires of it's time to get to such a huge empire.

They defeated Russian, Dutch, British, Germans and occupied the colonies France, Portugal, American.

Japanese occupied large chunks of China but China can never occupy Japan. Without America's military help and it's atomic bomb, Japanese would have conquered most of China.

Some think Asia would be like this today had not been for America


Japan declared war on USA. the USA like the rest was fighting for its national interests and survival during ww2. before that, USA supplied 80% of Japan’s imported war materials.

the USA-China cooperation during ww2 was mutually beneficial. the USA needed China as an active ally to bog down 1.2 million battle-hardened Japanese troops. the USA used air bases in China to conduct bombing campaigns in Japan main islands. China took just 3% of USA lend-lease aid program for its allies from 1941-1945. Britain took 60%, Soviet Union 20%, the rest 17%.

in the end, USA most despicably betrayed China at Yalta conference and then the disastrous Marshall’s mission to China. because of USA's intervention, China fell to Communism in 1949. must thank USA for new China, the PRC !
 

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wow no wonder they hate china so much, and the chinese hate them even more...

I don't think they hate China for that. Japan was only using 1/4 of it's power to conquer China. The fact that Japanese were fat greater warriors and were much better than Chinese. No offence but the Chinese people despite having the world largest population Chinese empires never expanded any further than the modern territories they have today. Without the Japanese most of the Euro colonies would not have weakened even India thanked Japan for weakening British rule and Indonesians called the Japanese as heroes for ending the Dutch. Both India and Indonesia became independent shorty after Japan's end in WW2.
 

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I don't think they hate China for that. Japan was only using 1/4 of it's power to conquer China. The fact that Japanese were fat greater warriors and were much better than Chinese. No offence but the Chinese people despite having the world largest population Chinese empires never expanded any further than the modern territories they have today. Without the Japanese most of the Euro colonies would not have weakened even India thanked Japan for weakening British rule and Indonesians called the Japanese as heroes for ending the Dutch. Both India and Indonesia became independent shorty after Japan's end in WW2.

fuck off the modern territories of China today are what Chinese in the past conquered.
 

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fuck off the modern territories of China today are what Chinese in the past conquered.

Keep dreaming. China were conquered by foreign empires much more than China had conquered others. The territories China have today are thanks to the Qing dynasty, only difference is it doesn't Mongolia.

But don't worry though India and Iran definitely wins the no.1 and no.2 most conquered countries in history but China is no.3 most conquered, Japan was never conquered although U.S occupied it for a decade.


China and India are both weaklings of history, both have the world largest population but both unable to create large empires.
 

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Keep dreaming. China were conquered by foreign empires much more than China had conquered others. The territories China have today are thanks to the Qing dynasty, only difference is it doesn't Mongolia.

But don't worry though India and Iran definitely wins the no.1 and no.2 most conquered countries in history but China is no.3 most conquered, Japan was never conquered although U.S occupied it for a decade.

China and India are both weaklings of history, both have the world largest population but both unable to create large empires.


China is just conquered 2.5 times in 5000 years. Japan is never conquered because nobody wanted to invade this backward isolated island nation. Japan only knew how to invade Korea. even the Koreans looked down on the Japanese and considered them as unworthy pirates, not deserving respect or attention. then the Meiji Restoration 1868, and Japan became a pawn of the USA to counter China and Soviet Union's power in the Far East.
 
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China is just conquered 2.5 times in 5000 years. Japan is never conquered because nobody wanted to invade this backward isolated island nation. Japan only knew how to invade Korea. even the Koreans looked down on the Japanese and considered them as unworthy pirates, not deserving respect or attention. then the Meiji Restoration 1868, and Japan became a pawn of the USA to counter China and Soviet Union's power in the Far East.

Chinese dogs like him will never accept this.
 

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Chinese dogs like him will never accept this.


You are right. I don't accept false history, deceptions. Chinese are just as weak as shit skins, even the Tang dynasty was the result of mixture between Han and Xianbei.
Han Chinese dynasties may have conquered barbarian tribes of Mongolia, Manchuria for 300 years but reverse shows they were conquered by foreign invaders 1100 years.



Parts of 'Northern China' ruled by foreign conquerors

16 states era (5 states were foreign invasion )

Five Barbarians 310- 370 by Xiongnu, Jie, Xianbei, Di, and Qiang.

Wu Hu Era ( barbarian invasions into northern China )

Former Qin (351–394) founded by the Di
Northern Wei (386–535) by Xianbei
Northern Zhou (557–581) founded by the Xianbei

Post-Tang (after the end of Tang dynasty )

Liao (907–1125) founded by the Khitans
Later Tang (923–936) founded by the Shatuo Turks
Later Jin (936–947) founded by the Shatuo Turks. Later Jin founder Shi Jingtang claimed patrilineal Han Chinese ancestry.
Later Han (947–951) founded by the Shatuo Turks. Sources conflict as to the origin of the Later Han and Northern Han Emperors, some indicate Shatuo ancestry while another claims
that the Emperors claimed patrilineal Han Chinese ancestry.
Northern Han in China (951–979) (founded by Shato) See above note on the Later Han's origins, Northern Han was founded by the same family as Later Han.

Post-Song ( the end of the northern song dynasty )

Western Xia (1038–1227) founded by the Tanguts
Jin (1115–1234) founded by the Jurchen
Yuan/Mongol ( 1218 - 1279 ) Mongols empire before the establishment of the Yuan dynasty

ALL CHINA


Yuan (1279–1368) founded by the Mongols , it is 1234 - 1368 if you include only North China.
Qing (1662–1911) founded by the Manchus
Japan (1921 - 1945 ) by Japanese, large parts of China
 
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HonkieSingie

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China is just conquered 2.5 times in 5000 years. Japan is never conquered because nobody wanted to invade this backward isolated island nation. Japan only knew how to invade Korea. even the Koreans looked down on the Japanese and considered them as unworthy pirates, not deserving respect or attention. then the Meiji Restoration 1868, and Japan became a pawn of the USA to counter China and Soviet Union's power in the Far East.

Northern China were conquered 15 times.
Southern China were conquered only 2 or 3 times

If you look at the list of foreign conquerors/invaders in China you would see Northern China were not only conquered 15 times but also suffered the most invasions.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_China

Japan today is the most advance nation of Asia. There is much for Chinese to learn from the Japanese.
 

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the only famous hakka i can see in the internet lists is sun yat sen - all minor pp otherwise.

you must be blind. check out this list on Hakkas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hakka_people
compared to teochews, hokkiens, cantonese, etc they are way way outnumbered in the political statesmen and achievements. other than sun yat sen, you have deng, general ne win of burma, Thaksin, etc etc too numerous to count. even Richard Hu , hon sui sen and CJ yong pung how are hakkas. even the sole chinese mayor of racist indonesian mayor of jakarta Ahok is a hakka. just goes to show their resilience and IQ/EQ
 

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you must be blind. check out this list on Hakkas
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hakka_people
compared to teochews, hokkiens, cantonese, etc they are way way outnumbered in the political statesmen and achievements. other than sun yat sen, you have deng, general ne win of burma, Thaksin, etc etc too numerous to count. even Richard Hu , hon sui sen and CJ yong pung how are hakkas. even the sole chinese mayor of racist indonesian mayor of jakarta Ahok is a hakka. just goes to show their resilience and IQ/EQ

Because there are way more Hakka than every other South Chinese population. There 80 million Hakkas. Look at the Teochew people, they are only 25 million ( which is just 1/4 of Hakka population)

ALSO IT SAYS THIS

The list is based on patrilineality (ancestry on the paternal side regardless of maternal ancestry or the different degrees of ancestry)[1][2] which the Chinese culture practises. In Chinese terms, it refers to one's dialect group (Chinese: 籍贯). They may or may not have identified publicly that they are Hakka this includes people with little to some Hakka ancestry. However, people whose maternal side are Hakka and who have publicly identified themselves as Hakka are included. The list also include descendants of overseas Hakkas who have inter-married with other ethnicities. In both cases, information on their backgrounds are found under Description but is not complete.


Lee Hsien Loong is treated as Hakka and is in the list, even though he is in reality just 3/4 Hokkien and only 1/4 Hakka. Also Cantonese, Teochew, Hokkien don't claim people with less than 50% ancestry. In this list the Hakka people includes those with 6%, 12%, 25%, 33%, of course you're going to have way more. I know a guy who claims to be Hakka even though he is only 1/8.



Maybe Taishanese and Fuzhouese are the most successful? ( Btw I have never met one single person who identify as Taishanese and I also never met a Xiang, Gan Chinese)


I mean for a population of only 8-9 million, this is quite a long list of Taishanese people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taishanese_people

"Sze yup or Jiangmen is considered the home of Chinese Academician town: The total of academicians is 31 people, a city with over 20 is considered extremely rare in China.[5] "


Fuzhounese people quite influential.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fuzhou_people
 
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I don't think we should trust wikipedia because the list is not complete. Many people of Teochew origin are not listed either.

Shanghainese is the richest city in China yet look at their list of people which is puny, clearly nobody bother to edit their list of people. With all the famous people I know that come from Shanghai the list should at least be filled with more than 10 pages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanghainese_people

Teochew on average are wealthier than Hokkien, Cantonese, Hakka
Cantonese have more richer cities and privileged culturally, media, entertainment
Hakka have more political leaders
Hokkien have more billionaire


Tell me why none of these inferior chinks were able to achieve what Europe did; be it Teochew, Hakka, Cantonese, Hokkien, none of them had ever been able to conquer the world.

History has proven Chinks are only good at killing themselves this is why there was the Hokkien-Hakka clan war and Cantonese-Hakka clan war, aswell as the ROC and PRC civil war and even today Taiwan, Hong Kong, China, Singapore fighting among themselves. They failed creating a large empire. Just like Indians. Many of these so called shitskin tend compare with other Indians like Punjabi, Tamil, Gujarati, Malayalam ect claiming they have better historical figures than other. This explains why chinks and shitskins were slaves in most of history.


Take a look at this Chinks and Shitskin. Is the unity of the European race who created the largest empires, most invention, most nobel prize.

This is the European empires who conquered 7/8 of the world.

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If a mere 1-2 million Mongolian tribes were able to conquer 1/4 of the world why haven't Chinks or Shit skins with their 300-500 million to 1 billion do the same, hell they can't even expand more than 1/16 of it's fraction outside of modern China. Do you why they were able to pull this off because they had united all the Mongolic tribes and this what make them strong. Chinks and Shitskins were never able to unite that's why they are victims.

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