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Chitchat Old Man and the proverbial FT

scroobal

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First the newspaper article that led to the train crash 13 years ago.


3 Nov 2003
'Today' newspaper

by Val Chua

Emotions ran high on a balmy Sunday night as the normally stoic Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew nearly broke down while recounting the ordeal his wife went through in London recently.

The troubles that the couple faced - including joining a queue in a free hospital - when Mrs Lee was hit by stroke two Sundays ago, revealed how differently two systems worked.

"I cannot tell you how restless and unhappy we felt," he said at a community event in Jalan Bukit Merah yesterday.

"We run a (healthcare) system where you have to co-pay ... but you get the attention. There, no attention, just join the queue," he said grimly.

The first sign of trouble was that there was no private hospital with CT scan facility at night in London, he told residents and community leaders.

So, Mrs Lee had to go to the NHS hospital nearest to the Four Seasons Hotel where they were staying - a free facility called the Royal London Hospital - and join the queue.

"We waited 45 minutes for the ambulance for a 10-minute drive," said Mr Lee in his first public appearance since the couple returned on Friday.

"In Singapore, within half-an-hour, you would be in SGH (Singapore General Hospital), TTSH (Tan Tock Seng Hospital) ... and within one-and-a-half to two hours flat, you'd know what went wrong."

When Mrs Lee reached The Royal London Hospital at 12.30am, it happened to have three cardiac arrest patients.

Mr Lee was told his wife's brain problem was "not as important" as the cardiac arrest cases, he recounted solemnly. She would have had to wait till 8am the next morning for her CT brain scan if 10 Downing Street had not intervened to get her early attention. High Commissioner Michael Teo had sought help from 10 Downing Street at 2am on Sunday and she received treatment at 3.30am on the night itself.

"Once upon a time, it was a wonderful hospital. But after 40 plus years ... the system cannot deliver. There's no connection between those in the system and the patients," he said.

But it's the way free healthcare systems work, he added, noting that Singapore must not go down that path, even though there are calls for free C class wards in public hospitals here.

"It's how the system works ... They did not discriminate against us," he noted of his London experience.

This contrasted sharply with how quickly Singaporeans - including national carrier Singapore Airlines - reacted to the situation.

Even though doctors initially advised that Mrs Lee stay put in London for three weeks, Mr Lee decided fly her back once her condition stabilised.

And then there was the big worry that she would get a spasm onboard, he recounted.

But he needn't have worried. Within 48 hours, SIA had fitted out SQ321 with medical support of oxygen tanks and other fixtures for a drip.

"No other airline would have done this," Mr Lee said, looking visibly touched.

On board were also two Intensive Care nurses from Changi General Hospital, two doctors, as well as officials from SIA who made sure all the equipment worked.

"Everyone knows his job," said Mr Lee. "Within 12 to 13 hours, we'd reached Changi Airport. It was a big relief," he said. "Twelve to 13 hours. Your heart stops beating sometimes. We landed at Changi Airport. Great relief. I had my granddaughter (Li Xiuqi) with me. She is very fond of her grandmother. She was so relieved."

Mrs Lee was whisked off in an ambulance to Singapore General Hospital, where she is recovering.

"I think this experience has changed my granddaughter's view of Singapore," Mr Lee said.

The overseas ordeal has made him even more assured that Singapore has what it takes to succeed, despite the downturn. "It's how we respond in an emergency that determines how we fight back. And I have enormous confidence that we can fight back."

The Singapore system - with its efficiency and fighting spirit - must be kept, he said.

"You slacken, you choose the easy way, and you'd be finished," he said.

Choking back tears, he added: "I have immense confidence that in an emergency, our people respond ... If we can do that, we can succeed."
 

scroobal

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If you read the article by Val Chua, much of it are direct quotes from the Old Man himself -his words and the context is clear in the article. In fact it was well written and no one can say that he was misquoted or it was taken out of context.

Here is the sequence of the events

3 Nov 2003 - article by Val Chua is published by "Today"

4 Nov 2003 - British media use that story to allege that PM Tony Blair had given instructions to cut queue because of a call from High Commissioner Michael Teo.

5 Nov 2003 - Mediacorp CEO Shaun Seow, Editor Mano Sabnani, Deputy Editor Rahul Parthak, Journalist Val Chua and Night Editor Bachan Singh are summoned to Sri Temasek by old man and royally crucified for landling him in trouble with the British press and the British PM.

5 Nov 2003 - Singapore High Commission, London issues press statement - "Mr Lee Kuan Yew regrets he was mistaken that 10 Downing Street had anything to do with his wife getting a CT scan at 3:30 am"

6 Nov 2003 - Old Man's office releases press statement -"Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew is paying for all the extra expenses of Mrs Lee's medical treatment in London and for her flight home on Singapore Airlines," the statement said. "Neither the government, the restructured hospitals nor SIA (Singapore Airlines) will bear any additional costs as a result of the arrangements."
 

halsey02

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This is old news, let the dead lie........HSK must be damn lucky to be in the company of such illustrious people & an excellent SCDF ( which we will never get) & a team of neurosurgeon of top class calibre waiting for him...he was in LONDON....he was sure lucky.

Yes, we know the late old fart paid for whatever...the SIA plane too?...or was it a compliment to him, as a founder of PAP?.. ??
 

scroobal

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Now here is the fall-out

1) Val Chua press credentials are revoked. She becomes in-house copywriter for advertisements placed in the papers.

2) Old Man finds out that Deputy Editor Rahul Parthak is FT from India. Issues edict forbidding non-locals to edit local content and is demoted immediately to night editor. He tenders resignation and works for a Indian media company for a year before joining SPH.

3) Mano Sabnani loses power as Editor and his decisions must be cleared by Shaun Seow. 3 years later Mano is fired over the Mr Brown affair and replaced by well known pet dog Balji who returns from retirement.
 

scroobal

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Some interesting tidbits from a recent retiree form last night, filing gaps not previously known.

This is old news, let the dead lie........HSK must be damn lucky to be in the company of such illustrious people & an excellent SCDF ( which we will never get) & a team of neurosurgeon of top class calibre waiting for him...he was in LONDON....he was sure lucky.

Yes, we know the late old fart paid for whatever...the SIA plane too?...or was it a compliment to him, as a founder of PAP?.. ??
 

frenchbriefs

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if there was free press in singapore and i publish a tabloid,i would provide a blow by blow breakdown of the expenses incurred by the 747 flight,cost of operating 747:$21,000 usd per hour,cost of crew,2 pilots and 3 stewardesses:$10,000 per trip,cost of medical equipment:$5000,cost of medical staff:2 doctors and 2 veteran nurses,$15000,cost of 3 martinis and 1 bottle of cristall drank by LKY on the way back,$250,assorted parking fees and airport taxes $2000.
Singapore healthcare system:priceless.u can get peace of mind in Singapore too if $250,000 is half a peanut to you.
 

Brightkid

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Pay and get service, he said? Man, that's totally different from what I saw on the ground as a peasant.

Even if you are prepared to pay A class ward and fees in a public hospital, you still have to wait in the mad-room called A&E for at least 16 hours, if it's your lucky day, waiting for a bed. Even the IN-processing counter lady cannot tell you how Long you can expect to wait while pointing to you some already there lying in the corridor since 24 hours ago !

Of course one can can pay, can always go private hospital if $ is not an issue.
 

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If you read the article by Val Chua, much of it are direct quotes from the Old Man himself -his words and the context is clear in the article. In fact it was well written and no one can say that he was misquoted or it was taken out of context.

Here is the sequence of the events

3 Nov 2003 - article by Val Chua is published by "Today"

4 Nov 2003 - British media use that story to allege that PM Tony Blair had given instructions to cut queue because of a call from High Commissioner Michael Teo.

5 Nov 2003 - Mediacorp CEO Shaun Seow, Editor Mano Sabnani, Deputy Editor Rahul Parthak, Journalist Val Chua and Night Editor Bachan Singh are summoned to Sri Temasek by old man and royally crucified for landling him in trouble with the British press and the British PM.

5 Nov 2003 - Singapore High Commission, London issues press statement - "Mr Lee Kuan Yew regrets he was mistaken that 10 Downing Street had anything to do with his wife getting a CT scan at 3:30 am"

6 Nov 2003 - Old Man's office releases press statement -"Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew is paying for all the extra expenses of Mrs Lee's medical treatment in London and for her flight home on Singapore Airlines," the statement said. "Neither the government, the restructured hospitals nor SIA (Singapore Airlines) will bear any additional costs as a result of the arrangements."

The stupidity of this thing is that everybody involved in publishing the story was pretty sure they were composing a paen to the Singapore system. And they were. But it did them no good.
 

johnny333

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Has anyone seen the receipts that all of the bills were paid by LKY:confused:

It is easy to say that he would pay for everything but LKY was a very old man & he might have forgotten:rolleyes:
 

BritExit

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Old man didn't expect being treated as a normal citizen healthcare system sucks no matter where you are!

Only when you are VIP you get first class medical treatment!

It's not about free healthcare system!
 
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