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Serious Tianjin Eco-City == Suzhou Industrial Park Part Two!

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Tianjin Eco-City CEO resigns for personal reasons

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LIEW Choon Boon, the CEO of the Sino-Singapore Tianjin Eco-City Investment and Development Co, has resigned for personal reasons, said Keppel Corporation, the Singapore corporation which is in a joint venture to develop the 30 sq km city.

He was appointed to his role last July, and was previously senior director at Ministry of National Development (MND).

His replacement is Tay Lim Heng, Keppel's current director of group risk and compliance.

Keppel CEO Loh Chin Hua said Mr Tay has been involved in the Tianjin Eco-City project in different capacities since 2009.

Tianjin Eco-City is a high-level project between China and Singapore to build a modern, efficient, environmentally-friendly and socially harmonious township.

Keppel shares last traded at S$5.22.
 

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SCMP 2014 Article:

China's 'eco-cities' struggle for traction

Wang Lin needed a change. The crushing air pollution and gridlock traffic in his hometown of Hangu, an industrial district in the northern metropolis of Tianjin, made him anxious and sometimes ill.

Then he heard about the Sino-Singapore Tianjin Eco-city. According to its marketing literature, the 246.92 billion yuan (HK$310 billion) development, a joint venture between the governments of China and Singapore, will one day be a "model for sustainable development" only 40 kilometres from Tianjin's city centre and 150 kilometres from Beijing. To Wang, 36, it sounded like paradise.

Last year, he moved into an inexpensive flat in one of the city's half-occupied apartment blocks. As a freelance translator, he doesn't mind that most employers are at least half an hour away by car. He loves the relatively clean air and the personal space. But he has his complaints.

By the time the city is complete, probably in 2020, it should accommodate 350,000 people over 30 square kilometres. Five years into the project, however, only about three square kilometres have been finished, housing 6,000 permanent residents. There are no hospitals or shopping malls. Its empty highways traverse a landscape of vacant mid-rises and dusty construction yards.

"This place is like a child; it's in a development phase," Wang said. "But it's chasing an ideal. It's the kind of place where people can … pursue their dreams."

Last month, Beijing announced its new urbanisation plan, a massive feat of technical and social engineering which will move more than 100 million country-dwellers into cities in the next six years. The question is how. The current development model has proved environmentally disastrous; ghost cities and towns spur fears of an impending real-estate meltdown.

The authorities began encouraging the construction of "eco-cities" in the middle of the last decade. Since then, hundreds have sprouted across the country. While the concept is vaguely defined, most eco-cities are built on once-polluted or non-arable land, comply with stringent green architectural standards, and experiment with progressive urban planning and transport infrastructure. The catch is that they simply may not work, if they get finished at all.

Many other ambitious eco-city projects - including Caofeidian in Hebei province, once considered the crown jewel of the movement - have ground to a halt. The problem, said Neville Mars, a Shanghai architect writing a book about the concept, is the "new city model", which involves building a whole city from the ground up rather than letting it develop organically.

"You can want to design your urban landscape, but in reality, on a fundamental level, that's impossible," he said. "We have to acknowledge that it's extremely hard to build a regular city from scratch."

Some experts say that certified green buildings and pedestrian-friendly roads are a patch, not a solution, for the nation's environmental woes. "Chinese people use a lot of coal because it's very cheap," said Tao Ran, acting director of the Brookings-Tsinghua Centre for Public Policy. "If coal doesn't become much more expensive, then enterprises won't use more green energy."

At present, the Tianjin eco-city feels more like a simulacrum of a viable community than the real thing. Its buildings are designed to the world's most stringent environmental standards, but they stand mostly unused.

Tianjin has an advantage because of its proximity to a major metropolis and shipping hub. "It's already proving to be successful, because it's still building," Mars said. Planners are proceeding carefully. "The idea is to ensure that what we build here is commercially viable," said Ho Tong Yen, chief executive of the city's developer. "It should not be an expensive project funded mainly through government subsidies." He said the project had made strides over the past year, selling about 400 homes a month - a rate which Ho describes as "healthy". President Xi Jinping visited last May. In January, the city's developers presented their project before the United Nations in New York.

"If you ask me what is most unique about Tianjin Eco-city," Ho added, "it is the comprehensiveness with which we are tackling the question of sustainability in the development of a city."

On an official city tour, assistant public relations manager Gang Wei walked through a sparkling, yet unoccupied, glass-and-steel office building, enumerating its environmental advantages. It's designed so that nearly a third of its energy would come from turbines and solar panels, he said.

While the developer claimed that more than 1,000 companies had registered in the city, many storefronts on the main shopping plaza stood empty. Two frozen escalators lead to a mostly vacant upper floor. In the middle of the afternoon its few occupants - a noodle joint, a coffee shop, a Japanese restaurant advertising "suisi" - were padlocked. The city's first food market opened in November, but its supplies were limited to a few well-stocked produce stalls. The massive space echoed like a gymnasium.

At one of the city's three schools, the red-brick Ivy Mi Kindergarten and Primary School, office manager Xu Wenjiao stood in a sun-drenched front lobby more befitting a wealthy technology start-up than an educational institution. Xu said tuition of about 400 yuan (HK$500) a month was less than half that in central Tianjin. "It's to encourage people to move here," she said. "Investors want homes occupied."

Xu strode through pristine hallways, opening doors to a music room, a spacious kitchen and a library furnished with beanbag chairs and potted plants.

"This is our garden," she said, pointing out of a window at the school's backyard, a small brick terrace dotted with dry plots of brown earth. Behind the garden a low wall was plastered with English phrases like "the seeds of fresh life, new bungalow" and "fresh air, bright sunshine, broad view, free breath". Beyond that, a construction yard stretched into the distance. The air reverberated with reports from a pile driver.

It is a familiar sound in Tianjin. With support from the central Chinese authorities, the municipality has shaped its outlying areas into an endless sprawl of showcase projects. Beyond the eco-city lies an ersatz ancient town, a free market zone with its own soccer team, and a half-built financial centre that, according to its developers, will someday rival Manhattan. Construction is everywhere; people are scarce.
 

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2016 September Article:

http://theindependent.sg/s16-to-20-billion-already-spent-on-singapore-tianjin-eco-ghost-city/

S$16 to 20 billion already spent on Singapore Tianjin eco-“ghost” city?



By: 永久浪客/Forever Vagabond

About an hour drive away from the Sino-Singapore Tianjin eco-city is another eco-city development called Caofeidian. Caofeidian was launched in 2003 with the blessing of then Chinese President Hu Jintao. It was supposed to house 1 million residents.

Thirteen years later, pedestrians are seldom seen in the central business district of Caofeidian and cars are equally rare on its four-lane roads, according to an SCMP report in Jun this year. Unfinished buildings, mostly locked up, and abandoned hotels and commercial blocks, are a common sight in Caofeidian, even in the centre of town.

What has happened is that its investment and construction boom ended abruptly in recent years, leaving behind all these unfinished buildings and massive debts. “The rise and fall of Caofeidian can be viewed as a case study of China’s disordered investment boom,” noted the SCMP reporter.

The construction boom hit the wall in 2012 when China’s overall economic growth started to lose steam. Overcapacity in manufacturing sectors became increasingly problematic.

Many investors in Caofeidian dumped projects as funding broke down – economists estimate the bad loans involved amount to hundreds of billion of yuan – and the town became one of China’s biggest half-finished “rotten-tail” projects or “ghost cities”.

IMF estimates that China’s total debt burden equals 225 per cent of its GDP, with the potential losses on the Chinese banks’ corporate loans equal to 7 per cent of GDP.

A worker in Caofeidian commented, “Unless the central government treats Caofeidian like it did Shenzhen decades ago, Hebei, by itself, is unable to boost Caofeidian. It has no money and it also needs to develop Shijiazhuang [the provincial capital] and other cities.”

Caofeidian’s officials are now pinning their economic hopes on a regional synergy plan, focusing on logistics and the green economy to attract companies, new investments and people to the city.

Sino-Singapore Tianjin eco-city

The Sino-Singapore Tianjin eco-city, on the other hand, is funded by the deep-pocket Singapore government.

Launched in 2007, it is slated to be the second flagship government-to-government project between Singapore and China following the China-Singapore Suzhou Industrial Park which started in 1994.

According to NLB information, the project was mooted by then Senior Minister Goh Chok Tong when he met then Chinese premier Wen Jiabao on 25 Apr 2007. Wen then agreed to Goh’s suggestion in principle and quickly moved to implement the idea, resulting in the signing of a framework agreement by Wen and PM Lee in Nov, 7 months later.

A 30 sq km site 40 km from the Tianjin city was selected. The Tianjin eco-city was projected to cost about S$9.7 billion. On 28 Sep 2008, construction of the eco-city commenced with a ground-breaking ceremony officiated by Goh and Wen.

Targeted for completion over 10 to 15 years, the Tianjin eco-city is planned to support a population of 350,000.

However, according to a recent report from Worldcrunch, quoting its source from French mainstream newspaper Le Monde, presently only 30,000 or less than 10% of the targeted residents live in the eco-city. This is 8 years into the development, not too far from the completion targeted timing.

But the Tianjin eco-city’s officials insisted that “more and more newcomers are arriving”.

Le Monde also reported that interest from the business community has also been less than hoped for. The city’s economic business park, which was supposed to house animation studios, is still empty.

S$16 to 20 billion already spent?

The cost of the whole eco-city project has greatly exceeded expectations. Between 80 and 100 billion yuan (S$16 to 20 billion) have already been spent, according to Le Monde. If this is true, that means the amount spent has immensely exceeded the original projection of S$9.7 billion and the project has yet to be completed. Le Monde reported that the final bill “should climb to 230 billion yuan (S$46 billion)”, citing the Tianjin eco-city’s officials.

In this regard, the opposition party need to question the ruling PAP government on the actual amount of investments that have thrown into the Tianjin eco-city project thus far. After all, all these investment monies belong to the Singapore public.

Meanwhile, the eco-city is resorting to selling housing at a discount or giving a “market subsidy” to buyers in order to attract more residents to the city.

Zhang Meijie, along with her husband and two children, are among those who opted for Tianjin eco-city, Le Monde reported.

“The day nurseries seemed high-quality and the setting more wooded,” the stay-at-home mother explains. But the real decider, for Zhang Meijie, is that housing was subsidized. As such they were able to get their apartment below market cost. But the husband would need to commute an hour to work each way as he works outside the eco-city.

“Tianjin Eco-city residents double in a year despite ‘ghost city’ fears”

CNA, one of Singapore’s state media, downplayed the fears that Tianjin eco-city will turn into another “ghost city”. It published a report last month ahead of PM Lee’s NDR speech which talked about Singapore embarking on 3rd Sino-Singapore joint venture at Chongqing.

The CNA report said, “One of China’s best known eco-cities, the Sino-Singapore Tianjin Eco-city, has started filling up, eight years after it was launched.”

“While there were fears that the development may join the ranks of China’s ‘ghost cities’, home sales for the project have gone up substantially this year. The number of residents has also more than doubled in just a year,” CNA boasted.

While Le Monde put the number of residents in the eco-city at about 30,000, CNA said the number is 50,000. Even at 50,000, this is less than 15% of the targeted 350,000. But CNA said the targeted number is supposed to be reached by mid 2020s or some 10 years from now.

“Development and showcasing”

Peng Zhengyang, the research director of the Tianjin eco-city, says that some 600 areas in China have labelled themselves as “eco”, though most do not respect rigorous criteria.

At first, the trend was both exciting and promising. Over time, however, it became clear that many of the ventures weren’t viable because of “the excessiveness of the projects, the gigantic economic costs, the stamping of environmental labels for form and with no convincing results, and the absence of any social approach”, a French urbanist told Le Monde.

The urbanist went on to say that, ironically, many projects that do not claim to be “eco” turn out to be more sustainable because they take into account the local context, the climate, the geography or the history.

“The rampant building that goes on in Chinese cities outpaces the immediate needs. It’s excessive, in other words. Urban populations are growing fast. But city structures are sprouting up faster still,” Le Monde reported.

The website, The Paper, citing information presented in recent conference organized by the ministry of housing, notes that on average, each provincial capital has 4.6 “new districts”, artificial extensions of cities where low-rise blocks are sprouting up everywhere and spread out over dozens (or even hundreds in some cases) of square kilometers. The situation, as one Shenzhen urban planning committee member described it, “is out of control”.

Would Tianjin eco-city be eventually filled with the targeted 350,000 residents or would it become yet another “ghost city”? Only time will tell.

In the mean time, there is little chance that Tianjin eco-city will become another Caofeidian as long as the Singapore government continues to “invest” Singapore’s public monies into it. Constructions will continue. Buildings will not be left unfinished and no massive debts are incurred, unlike the situation in Caofeidian.
 

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Tianjin is former premier Wen jiabao's territory. The joint venture was penned when he was in office. Since xi jinping took over this guy and the puppet ex president Hu jingtao have fallen out of favour due to their close association with Jiang zheming.

The rumour is Xi jinping survived an assassination attempt by Zhou yongkang during the starting of the corruption purge (where Jiang zheming, Zhou yongkang and Bo xilai all lost their powers). And Xi is highly offended this was allowed to happen in Tianjin, Wen jiabao's home turf
 

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There is lots of money to be made by individuals in these Chinese ventures. That's why more projects are being pursued. Never mind, that it is a losing proposition for the GLCs and taxpayers. It is all about benefitting certain individuals.
 

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Tianjin is former premier Wen jiabao's territory. The joint venture was penned when he was in office. Since xi jinping took over this guy and the puppet ex president Hu jingtao have fallen out of favour due to their close association with Jiang zheming.

The rumour is Xi jinping survived an assassination attempt by Zhou yongkang during the starting of the corruption purge (where Jiang zheming, Zhou yongkang and Bo xilai all lost their powers). And Xi is highly offended this was allowed to happen in Tianjin, Wen jiabao's home turf

It has to go on. We are like the little frog, deaf to all criticisms. How can we let such a small thing shake our resolve in carrying on with the project? :confused: Surely eleven jinping must understand this. :o
 

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There is lots of money to be made by individuals in these Chinese ventures. That's why more projects are being pursued. Never mind, that it is a losing proposition for the GLCs and taxpayers. It is all about benefitting certain individuals.

Nothing to worry, the vaults at CPF will be reloaded with cash by Sinkie Slaves.
 

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Liew C B, was already in a dead end job in the Admin Service and was even taken to court by a subordinate that he interviewed and hired. Not even sure if Keppel knew his background. He must have taken retirement and thought this must be it. Anyone who is offered a post with this joint venture would not touch it with a barge pole. There are numerous reports in the open press that it is pretty dead despite nearly 9 years of work behind it. Another one of those brilliant in studies - 1st class honours in physics but struggled all over the place.

Again we funded the whole bloody project with PRC providing the land. By the way this is Goh Chok Tong personal project and to show Old Man how to do Suzhou properly.
 

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I don't know why the SG Govt never learn their lessons from the initial SZ project. Maybe their are too proud to learn from lesser mortals? After all they are the world highest paid ministers (I believe those fat cat directors are too) and supposedly the brightest in the world in THEIR own opinion.

I chanced upon someone who was involved in the initial project. This person should be middle manager level and highly proficient in his/her expertise. Didn't want to go into specifics but I surmised that what was happening on the ground and what the higher management is seeing from high in their ivory towers, paintings of heaven and hell may be a good analogy.

These projects seemed to be to support some peoples' egos at the expense of the SG taxpayers money......again.
 

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There are a number of interesting elements that drive these interesting decisions despite failures in these very areas.

1) The desire for the Motherland to recognise Singapore Chinese as an advanced community that wants to help its country of origin.

2) The genuine believe that Singapore Mandarins are experts in Public infrastructure building and the same achievements can be duplicated elsewhere

3) To tap the Chinese market

What they still cannot get into their collectives heads are the following

1) Taiwanese, HK and US people who invest in China and build their factories and facilities are proven business leaders and entrepreneurs. Not bureaucrats, policy wonks and public servants.

2) None of the foreigners going into China have any interest in proving themselves to the Chinese as an advanced community or people or even super smart. All they want to do is enter into a commercial agreements that will make profit for themselves and their Chinese partners. They don't even care about Chinese culture nor are they are waiting to be given a public service medal by the Chinese Government.

3) The inability to cut their losses once its hits a pre-defined threshold. Saving face is the one and only thing in mind. Admission is a cardinal sin for the PAP.


I don't know why the SG Govt never learn their lessons from the initial SZ project. Maybe their are too proud to learn from lesser mortals? After all they are the world highest paid ministers (I believe those fat cat directors are too) and supposedly the brightest in the world in THEIR own opinion.

I chanced upon someone who was involved in the initial project. This person should be middle manager level and highly proficient in his/her expertise. Didn't want to go into specifics but I surmised that what was happening on the ground and what the higher management is seeing from high in their ivory towers, paintings of heaven and hell may be a good analogy.

These projects seemed to be to support some peoples' egos at the expense of the SG taxpayers money......again.
 

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I don't think it is anything political. Its a commercial venture driven by Singapore public servants and or ex-public servants. Typically industrial parks are built by local governments to attract regional and foreign investments. Local Govt offers incentives, tax concessions etc to draw these investments. There are hundreds of such initiatives all over China and nearly all fully run by the Chinese local governments. The competition must be pretty intense. I doubt Keppel has any say in tax treatments, worker's wages etc.

We might have overestimated our capabilities.

Tianjin is former premier Wen jiabao's territory. The joint venture was penned when he was in office. Since xi jinping took over this guy and the puppet ex president Hu jingtao have fallen out of favour due to their close association with Jiang zheming.

The rumour is Xi jinping survived an assassination attempt by Zhou yongkang during the starting of the corruption purge (where Jiang zheming, Zhou yongkang and Bo xilai all lost their powers). And Xi is highly offended this was allowed to happen in Tianjin, Wen jiabao's home turf
 

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From Suzhou to Tianjin, there are a lot more cities in China that can also develop Industrial Park. But ask yourself ... are we smarter than the Chinese ?
 

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Dun worry. We building another one in Chongqing. Ching will show the Old Farts how things are done in the real world.
 

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Dun worry. We building another one in Chongqing. Ching will show the Old Farts how things are done in the real world.

There is already a huge mix used office residential retail hotel Mega project in Chongqing. Think it's run by Capitaland.
 

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Caofeidian is also another Eco-City about an hr's drive from Tianjin Eco-City Park. It was launched earlier and it was designed by the Swedes without they taking an equity stake in it. We on the other hand got URA plus HDB and whole bunch of Govt agencies to plan with Singapore taking an equity stake of 50% paid in cash while China gave land as its 50% stake.

In 2012, when we realised that Caofedian was failing the Singapore government announced a $9m or so pool from which grants will be given to companies to come on board.

So within a small area there are 2 failed industrial zone. Honestly which able person with a sane mind will accept a role with a sinking ship.



From Suzhou to Tianjin, there are a lot more cities in China that can also develop Industrial Park. But ask yourself ... are we smarter than the Chinese ?
 

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How cum we alwiz hear GLC or Termasick lost Billions in investment in China or India, seldom hear the Americans, Germans and Brits losing such crazy amts? Our Wiz Harvard Scholars and their Harvard Grads diff. Huh!
 

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There are a number of interesting elements that drive these interesting decisions despite failures in these very areas. 1) The desire for the Motherland to recognise Singapore Chinese as an advanced community that wants to help its country of origin. 2) The genuine believe that Singapore Mandarins are experts in Public infrastructure building and the same achievements can be duplicated elsewhere 3) To tap the Chinese market What they still cannot get into their collectives heads are the following 1) Taiwanese, HK and US people who invest in China and build their factories and facilities are proven business leaders and entrepreneurs. Not bureaucrats, policy wonks and public servants. 2) None of the foreigners going into China have any interest in proving themselves to the Chinese as an advanced community or people or even super smart. All they want to do is enter into a commercial agreements that will make profit for themselves and their Chinese partners. They don't even care about Chinese culture nor are they are waiting to be given a public service medal by the Chinese Government. 3) The inability to cut their losses once its hits a pre-defined threshold. Saving face is the one and only thing in mind. Admission is a cardinal sin for the PAP.
@ scroobal

Your analysis is spot-on. I love it :smile:
 
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