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Why does Lee Wei Ling feud with Brothers and SIL?

nayr69sg

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ah so your default position is the dishonorable son is always right. we get it now. If siao is a curse, you must be a bigger fag that he is

That was not what I said lah. I said that there was a subtle suggestion that LSF might have abused her position. So later LHL came out and said out outright. So I was correct lah.

I did not say that LHL was correct in his accusation.

Well from the emails, it is really hard to judge right? When someone says that they have spoken to another and that person has CAPITULATED, it could construe some part of force. No? Definition of Capitulate is cease to resist an opponent or an unwelcome demand; surrender.

If LSF had used the words I have convinced LKY. He has agreed. It would look better lah. Capitulate.....hmmmm.

Anyway we shall see when there is more dirt revealed.

How you know I am also a fag? Maybe it takes one to know one eh?
 

jw5

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Perhaps she simply enjoys using forceful words. Dun take it so seriously. :biggrin:

Well from the emails, it is really hard to judge right? When someone says that they have spoken to another and that person has CAPITULATED, it could construe some part of force. No? Definition of Capitulate is cease to resist an opponent or an unwelcome demand; surrender.

If LSF had used the words I have convinced LKY. He has agreed. It would look better lah. Capitulate.....hmmmm.
 

nayr69sg

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Perhaps she simply enjoys using forceful words. Dun take it so seriously. :biggrin:

Not taking this seriously. It is all for fun and banter.

I think most of us here would admit that we would love to see an outcome where, LHL is thrown out as PM loses power lose all his money, Ho Ching also, LWL also, LHY also. All kena and burn away.

So really no sides to take. Just hope they destroy each other.
 

scroobal

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I was shocked. Some were actually fawning at a time like this and others had no idea what was going on but offering serious advice to retaliate. These idiots did not even know that he got full market value for 38 from his brother who intends to demolish it.

It's rather funny when you read the comments left by the sycophants :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
 

nayr69sg

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I was shocked. Some were actually fawning at a time like this and others had no idea what was going on but offering serious advice to retaliate. These idiots did not even know that he got full market value for 38 from his brother who intends to demolish it.

Do you believe me now when I say that the problems in Singapore no longer have to do with the governing party and PM but the people themselves?
 

eatshitndie

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Not taking this seriously. It is all for fun and banter.

I think most of us here would admit that we would love to see an outcome where, LHL is thrown out as PM loses power lose all his money, Ho Ching also, LWL also, LHY also. All kena and burn away.

So really no sides to take. Just hope they destroy each other.

petty squabbles happen anywhere and anytime. just look at sbf. even a petty one name-called a popular one "bangkok pimp", has not apologized and now try to suck his dick as his circle of clones and friends are diminishing. it shall cum to pass, and siblings will seek loong's cross-legged dick to suck. 696 episodes of taiwanese drama but they won't destroy each other.
 

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I was shocked. Some were actually fawning at a time like this and others had no idea what was going on but offering serious advice to retaliate.

When the comments on PRC find its way into Weibo, the true repercussions will be felt... Teehee...
 

jw5

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His circle of clones are increasing, not diminishing. Mark my words. :biggrin:

petty squabbles happen anywhere and anytime. just look at sbf. even a petty one name-called a popular one "bangkok pimp", has not apologized and now try to suck his dick as his circle of clones and friends are diminishing. it shall cum to pass, and siblings will seek loong's cross-legged dick to suck. 696 episodes of taiwanese drama but they won't destroy each other.
 

Papsmearer

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Very interesting article on the rise of the First lady Bitch Whore Jinx, by Michael Barrs

Why you need to know

Perhaps the most startling and truly new development is the emergence of the importance of Lee Hsien Loong’s wife, Ho Ching.

On April 15, 2010, Singapore Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong was interviewed by Charlie Rose on American national television and declared without reservation that if anyone suggested that Singapore has a dynastic government – if there was any hint of nepotism – then he would sue them.
That was then. Seven years and two months later, on June 14, 2017, his own brother and sister (Lee Hsien Yang and Lee Wei Ling) accused him of exactly that. He has not sued them, but his brother has said he will flee the country in fear of unspecified repercussions from his conflict with his brother. They accuse him not only of having dynastic ambitions for his son, Li Hongyi, but also of abusing his power as prime minister in his effort to "advance his personal agenda" and of cowering the local press into timid silence.
The tipping point of the dispute is the last will and testament of the family patriarch, Lee Kuan Yew, who died on 23 March 2015. The specific point of dispute is disposal of the family home: Lee Kuan Yew wanted it bulldozed; Lee Hsien Loong wants it preserved and heritage listed. More to the point, he is accused of using the power of Cabinet and his Attorney-General (formerly his personal solicitor) to make it so. (Last week Cabinet Secretary Tan Kee Yong confirmed Cabinet had set up an internal ministerial committee to consider the options for the house but PM Lee had not been involved in the committee's discussions.) The PM's younger siblings have enlisted the power of Facebook and the foreign media (bypassing the Singapore press) to stop him.
It is rather amusing to see the Lees complaining about the abuse of power, the lack of "checks and balances to prevent the abuse of government," and about the timidity of the Singapore press. They seem to be under the impression that this is a new development and that they are the first to notice.


Leaving aside the trivial and essentially personal elements of the intra-family squabble, there are several points of significance to draw from this episode that have a direct bearing on the contemporary governance of Singapore.
Perhaps the most startling and truly new development is the emergence of the importance of Lee Hsien Loong’s wife, Ho Ching. We already knew she was powerful as the CEO and director of Temasek Holdings, which is the holding company for the massive network of government-linked companies that dominate the Singapore economy. From the glimpse of the inside-family politics this episode has provided, it is now clear that she has power far beyond this role. There are 12 separate mentions of Ho Ching as a player in the public statement released by Lee Hsien Yang and Lee Wei Ling a week ago but the critical one is here:
Singapore has no such thing as the wife of the prime minister being "a first lady." Lee Kuan Yew was Prime Minister from 1959 to 1990. During those many years, his wife (our mother) consistently avoided the limelight, remaining his stalwart supporter and advisor in private. She lived discreetly and set a high bar for the conduct of a prime minister’s wife. She would never instruct Permanent Secretaries or senior civil servants. The contrast between her and Ho Ching could not be more stark. While Ho Ching holds no elected or official position in government, her influence is pervasive and extends well beyond her job purview [as the long-time CEO and Director of Temasek Holdings, one of Singapore’s two sovereign wealth funds].
We still have no substantive basis to judge how far her power extends either in government per se or over her husband, but from now on, people will assume her power is ubiquitous.
The second significant revelation is the first airing by anyone in the ruling elite of the political ambitions of Li Hongyi, Lee Hsien Loong’s and Ho Ching’s son. His ambition had been well known for many years, and it was fairly obvious to anyone who followed the Lee family closely that he had been busy building a CV that would provide him entry to politics, but barely a whisper of this had been translated into print. Certainly, no journalist had gone near the story and even foreign academics like myself have been circumspect. Li Hongyi has denied any such ambition (well he would, wouldn’t he?) but now the story is out, and it is out in a way that cannot do anything but hurt his ambitions.
The third major consequence is the continued degradation of the Lee Hsien Loong brand and, by consequence, the Lee family brand. Lee Hsien Loong has never been as revered as his father and the events of the last week are likely to have further damaged him. It would be different if his period as prime minister had been a litany of successes and achievements, but it has been far from a success. During the 13 years that Lee Hsien Loong has been prime minister, government in Singapore has been unambiguously ordinary. There have been large anti-government rallies, the worse election result for the government since independence, and a series of spectacular administrative failures. He famously saved the 2011 General Elections for the government by apologizing for all the things the government had done wrong. This is definitely not the way to enhance a brand nor the way to build a dynasty. It is not even a good way to run a country.
 
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Another good article from the same publication, written by Kirsten Han. Wei Ling and Hsien Yang is so disconnected from the people on the street, that its quite pathetic.

[h=1] Is the First Family Finally Waking from Singapore’s Orwellian Nightmare? [/h]
[h=5]Why you need to know[/h] Lee Hsien Loong has continued to erode civil liberties on the island. Like his father, he’s sued political opponents, journalists and dissidents. Are his siblings starting to wake up?

It’s not every day that Singapore’s first family airs their dirty laundry in public.
The excitement triggered by this latest episode of a public feud could only be expressed by the liberal use of popcorn emoji’s and GIFs across Singaporeans’ social media platforms. Politics is a tightly-controlled game in the city-state, and such a dispute provides a rare insight (and indeed, opportunity for gossip) into the machinations and conflicts of the ruling elite.
Yet this ongoing saga has demonstrated the disconnect between those at the top from Singaporeans on the ground. While Lee Wei Ling and Lee Hsien Yang cry foul over the lack of checks and balances in the system, the misuse of political power and the control of the local mainstream media, they
demonstrate no awareness of the fact that these erosions of democracy took place under the rule of the father whose legacy they so jealously guard.


The dispute supposedly revolves around the handling of the late elder statesman’s beloved house, but Lee Wei Ling and Lee Hsien Yang have gone much further with their allegations against their elder brother, current Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong. They stated clearly that they had “lost confidence” in their brother; Lee Hsien Yang even went as far as saying that he would only reconsider his decision to leave the country if his brother was no longer in power. The siblings also made an explosive claim: that the premier and his wife Ho Ching “harbor political ambitions for their son, Li Hongyi”, an allegation with implications of nepotism, a touchy subject among the litigious political elite. (Lee Hsien Loong has denied these accusations.)
“[T]he current government is distinctly different from the government when [Lee Kuan Yew] was [Prime Minister] and subsequently [Senior Minister],” Lee Wei Ling wrote on her Facebook page in August last year.
Missing from her analysis, though, is the fact that it was Lee Kuan Yew and his government who brought the mainstream press to heel with legislation like the Newspaper and Printing Presses Act of 1974, which gives the relevant Minister the power to appoint management shareholders of newspaper companies and therefore a major say in staffing decisions (such as who to appoint as Editor-in-Chief). It was Lee Kuan Yew and his government who outlawed strikes and other collective action, dealing a blow to freedom of assembly in Singapore. It was Lee Kuan Yew, too, who had detained political opponents and dissidents without trial.
Lee Hsien Loong has also continued to erode civil liberties on the island. Like his father, he’s sued political opponents, journalists and dissidents. In recent years his government has passed laws the impact free speech and press freedom and expanded regulations regarding the use of the only space in Singapore where protest is allowed without a permit, so much so that this year’s gay rights rally will be held behind barricades, because the presence of foreigners has now been criminalized.
A documentary about Singapore’s political exiles has been denied classification for “national security” reasons, a graphic novel seen its funding withdrawn because of its non-establishment depiction of Singapore history, and a teenager jailed for his YouTube videos and Facebook posts after prosecutions that a U.S. immigration court judge has since determined amounted to political persecution.
Although Lee Wei Ling posted on Facebook about the free speech implications of legislation codifying the offence of contempt of court, there has been little coming from either her or her brother over any of the other restrictions of human rights and democratic participation in the city. Lee Hsien Yang has since described his situation in Singapore as “almost like an Orwellian nightmare,” but there’s so far been no acknowledgement that many Singaporeans have already suffered this dystopian fate. And while he remains free to choose when to leave and presumably when to return, there are Singaporeans around the world who, thanks to his father and brother’s administrations, don’t have such a luxury.
Singaporeans will continue to be fascinated by this spat as long as both sides are willing to keep at it. Things will be interesting no matter how they play out: if Lee Hsien Loong chooses to sue his siblings for their allegation of dynasty politics – as he and his father have done before, including the New York Times – it will demonstrate the exercise of power and repression that his siblings and other critics have highlighted. If he doesn’t, his brother and sister will have got away with saying the very thing no one else in Singapore would risk saying, lending credence to the claim and fixing it firmly in Singaporeans’ minds.
The lesson that should be learnt here, though, is that authoritarianism is a faithless creature – one never knows when it’ll stop working in one’s favor. Polls might show that most Singaporeans support the honoring of Lee Kuan Yew’s wishes to demolish his home, but if the Lee siblings want more support with regard to the other issues of power and control that they’ve highlighted, a little solidarity wouldn’t hurt.
 

JHolmesJr

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"It is rather amusing to see the Lees complaining about the abuse of power, the lack of "checks and balances to prevent the abuse of government," and about the timidity of the Singapore press. They seem to be under the impression that this is a new development and that they are the first to notice."

Did Kirsten Han write this….quite funny…LOL
 

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what is so repulsive of the familee is their clear incompetence to deliver yet regularlee abuse their power to manipulate situation to their advantage and this has caught on with their george croonies n paul lambpards so it develop into an unhealthy culture of administrative bullying, the sort of repulsive abuse which they advise on MSM as unacceptable yet practising it like a verse from the holy grail
 

tanwahtiu

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The design of the hse looks like the land there is low and get flood during high tide often. Build over kampong style on lands often hv floods.
 

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what is so repulsive of the familee is their clear incompetence to deliver yet regularlee abuse their power to manipulate situation to their advantage and this has caught on with their george croonies n paul lambpards so it develop into an unhealthy culture of administrative bullying, the sort of repulsive abuse which they advise on MSM as unacceptable yet practising it like a verse from the holy grail

It is repulsive, and this trait is unfortunately very easily learned by the simple minded and put into practice. However, I make it a point to treat my girls with dignity and respect, so this is not a problem in my team.
 
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