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Stop-At-Two campaign is taking a heavy toll!

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Qinhuang

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Those days, the local Chinese families did not have to learn from the Malays how to manage big families; ten out of ten Chinese families had at least 4 to 5 kids averagely. When life was easy, environment was pleasant, space was adequate, things were cheaper and some are free, procreation needed no pork-barrel bonus for Singapore.
In the 70’s, all the army camps were packed with Chinese NS boys.

Then came a notorious Stop-at-two. But I believe the campaign did not bother the Malays.

The PAP Govt has ants in its pants trying to boost the population but it does not mention what race it needs the most because Malay families are not producing less.

By buying some or begging some from afield to boost the sin population, it may be a short cut to fill the gaps but there is certainly a huge price to pay socially.

What the PAP govt not telling the truth of the race demography of dwindling population will destroy Singapore in 20 years' time.

The present environment is unlike the past where the people cannot escape the deadly -rat race given a zero-natural-resources island. Massive humans living on the small and crowded island is a slow but steady death for all.

In this uncertain world, being rich and liquid does not mean you will not starve and not go thirsty. Having a backyard with tapioca plants may look third -world(not cool), but you would live to see another era.

PAP suddenly jumps on the Baby-bonus train will not save Singapore for another 50 years, this is a gospel truth.

Keep this message for sons and daughters, whoever has stabbed Singapore to becoming a cosmopolitan society and let it bleed to death must have a non-asian dream. Malaysia beats us hand over fist when it declares " truly asia" in the asian region. So, uniquely singapore tells you the island is filled with HDB flats?

Like a quest for gold medals, a conquest for power and growth at all costs do have a dreadful price to pay in the future. Well, sad to say, it is too late to save the declining population of a certain race in Singapore. Under PAP, Singapore will still go haywire in twenty years time however div-one, you won’t want to let your children be around, so do you and your spouse.

Laugh you may, the dread that most fear is real. I heard from the streets, "if you live a chinese or malay or indian this life, when you are told to live like ang mohs, do you feel like having a wrong leadership, or perhaps the leaders are having wrong people".

Meantime, live in the PAP’s neverland, and nerve for the worst.
 

sage

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Loyal
A disastrous decision for the entire nation. If happened in Div 1, player sure kena benched. The incentive given out to stop at 2 resulted in many women sterilised and could not reverse, so there was time-out in the nation's natural procreation process. Hence NS sure extend to 4 years and reservist up to 60 years old soon.
 

suteerak1099

Alfrescian
Loyal
very soon, they're gonna;
1. introduce pornograpy as core subject in the schools, to encourage ppl to breed like hamsters.
2. throw in NTUC vouchers for each quickie the couples take.
3. enforce copulation regime every morning & evening after the anthem is aired.
4. ban legalized brothels in a bid to ensure married couples have lesser distraction
5. enforce extended lunch hour, so couples can rendezvous for quikies
6. give incentives for accelerated pregnancy within 3mths after ROM
7. throw in extra baby bonus for shotgun marriages
8. up the stakes for those producing twins/ triplets/ more
9. full medical subsidy for those opting for artificial insemination
10. offer olympic medal incentives for those who produce half a dozen of kids

(sad to say, there's hardly any news on incentives for single-moms)
 

batman1

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Loyal
The stop at 2 children policy in the early 1970s is a ruthless policy by ruthless
men who have little regard for human lives.THEN they dangled and enforced so much carrot(financial incentives and privileges) and stick (legal punitive actions) in the campaign so that they are super-successful and super-efficient in their campaign that they realised the "so-called clever " campaign actually turned out to be a "stupid" fiasco NOW.
THEN nobody can can say anything because the oposition is weak.
The recent short-term marriage and parenthood package is only trying to cure the symptoms and NOT the disease (root of problem).
TILL NOW,they still don't understand why people are not marrying and producing babies ?They have lost touch with reality.They have no empathy for the people.They don't want to know or understand the reality of the situation ?
There's no need for them to know or understand the situation ? Yes,they just say what and the people will follow like sheep to the slaughterhouse .
Producing baby is a life-long commitment and not like buying a doll or toy and u can throw away if your fancy fades away.
The facts are the environment are not conducive to marriage and parenthood.
What are the barriers? High costs of living,No job security,Low income,High costs of raising a child,Low job opportunities,High medical costs,High education fees,High transport fees,High accommodation fees.........etc.
The truth is Singapore is a soulless Corporation whose sole ideology is materialsim.NO money ,no talk.No money,no honey. No money,no Olympic medal.Everything boils down to money to MIW.
 

Himerus

Alfrescian
Loyal
this campaign was too successful.
it was an campaign for that period of time.
now they are trying desparately to reverse it,cos of shortage of male for NS and our majorities is slowly reducing.
it is a worrying trend for them.

may take 1 or 2 generations again before they can see an increase in the birth rate of especially among us.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
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Source FPPB
Family planning campaign posters produced between 1974-1983, to educate public on the advantages of small families and how that could be achieved with family planning. "Stop at Two" was the official slogan.​
 

Leongsam

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[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Family Planning[/FONT][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]

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On average, a baby was born in Singapore every 11 minutes in 1965![FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>1

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[/FONT] The high birth rates stretched facilities at the Kandang Kerbau Hospital (KKH). Lee Suk Ting, a Nursing Officer, recounted the situation in 1962: “The number of deliveries in KKH was at its peak, with an average of 100 deliveries per day. The number of beds available then fell far short of demand, and many deliveries were conducted with patients lying on the floor on mackintoshes or on transport trolleys. Patients in the early stages of labour sat for long hours on hard wooden benches waiting for a bed.” [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>2</sup>[/FONT]
Nearly all mothers with normal deliveries had to be discharged within 24 hours. In 1966, the number of deliveries reached a record high of 39,835 and won KKH a place in the Guinness Book of Records for the largest number of births in a single maternity facility – a record it held for 10 years.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>3</sup>[/FONT]

Recognising the potential impact of the high birth rates on the Republic's limited resources, Minister for Health, Mr. Yong Nyuk Lin, tabled a White Paper in Parliament in September 1965 and outlined a Five-year Mass Family Planning programme aimed at reducing the birth rate from 29.9 per thousand in 1965 to 20 per thousand in 1970.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>4</sup>[/FONT] The Family Planning and Population Board (FPPB) was subsequently established in January 1966 to implement the recommendations in the White Paper. [FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>5</sup>[/FONT]

The national policy then was to provide family planning facilities to all eligible married women in the 15-44 years age group, numbering about 180,000. A sum of S$1 million was allocated for the entire programme.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>6 </sup>[/FONT]Although the programme met with initial resistance, more than 156,000 eventually received family planning services.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>7</sup>[/FONT] By the end of its third cycle in 1980, fertility rate had declined to 1.7 children per female population.[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]<sup>8</sup>[/FONT] By then, however, Singapore’s economic growth and aging population meant that it needed to maintain a sizeable workforce. The family planning programme was revised in 1986 to encourage Singaporeans to have more children.

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Mr. Yong Nyuk Lin speaking at inauguration meeting of the
Family Planning and Population Board (FPPB) in January 1966.

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Source FPPB

National Day Float decorated with family planning
campaign posters by FPPB in 1968.
 

Big Sexy

Super Moderator
SuperMod
time has changed.. that campaign was in the 70s.. and IMHO...it was the right decision then... Quantity or Quality people do we want??? why do we need so many stupid people? sorry to say this.. but IMO...the poor and not so clever should not have babies.. they create alot of social problem for themselve and our society and is likely to have a unsuccessful life..
 

Hakka Tiow

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Loyal
Those days, the local Chinese families did not have to learn from the Malays how to manage big families; ten out of ten Chinese families had at least 4 to 5 kids averagely. When life was easy, environment was pleasant, space was adequate, things were cheaper and some are free, procreation needed no pork-barrel bonus for Singapore.
In the 70’s, all the army camps were packed with Chinese NS boys.

Then came a notorious Stop-at-two. But I believe the campaign did not bother the Malays.

The PAP Govt has ants in its pants trying to boost the population but it does not mention what race it needs the most because Malay families are not producing less.

By buying some or begging some from afield to boost the sin population, it may be a short cut to fill the gaps but there is certainly a huge price to pay socially.

What the PAP govt not telling the truth of the race demography of dwindling population will destroy Singapore in 20 years' time.

The present environment is unlike the past where the people cannot escape the deadly -rat race given a zero-natural-resources island. Massive humans living on the small and crowded island is a slow but steady death for all.

In this uncertain world, being rich and liquid does not mean you will not starve and not go thirsty. Having a backyard with tapioca plants may look third -world(not cool), but you would live to see another era.

PAP suddenly jumps on the Baby-bonus train will not save Singapore for another 50 years, this is a gospel truth.

Keep this message for sons and daughters, whoever has stabbed Singapore to becoming a cosmopolitan society and let it bleed to death must have a non-asian dream. Malaysia beats us hand over fist when it declares " truly asia" in the asian region. So, uniquely singapore tells you the island is filled with HDB flats?

Like a quest for gold medals, a conquest for power and growth at all costs do have a dreadful price to pay in the future. Well, sad to say, it is too late to save the declining population of a certain race in Singapore. Under PAP, Singapore will still go haywire in twenty years time however div-one, you won’t want to let your children be around, so do you and your spouse.

Laugh you may, the dread that most fear is real. I heard from the streets, "if you live a chinese or malay or indian this life, when you are told to live like ang mohs, do you feel like having a wrong leadership, or perhaps the leaders are having wrong people".

Meantime, live in the PAP’s neverland, and nerve for the worst.




Guess we all know who are secretly smiling knowing they'll inherit the earth in 20yrs time. After all it was theirs in the first place.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
time has changed.. that campaign was in the 70s.. and IMHO...it was the right decision then... Quantity or Quality people do we want??? why do we need so many stupid people? sorry to say this.. but IMO...the poor and not so clever should not have babies.. they create alot of social problem for themselve and our society and is likely to have a unsuccessful life..

It shows a shocking lack of foresight by the PAP. :eek:
 

makapaaa

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
very soon, they're gonna;
1. introduce pornograpy as core subject in the schools, to encourage ppl to breed like hamsters.
2. throw in NTUC vouchers for each quickie the couples take.
3. enforce copulation regime every morning & evening after the anthem is aired.
4. ban legalized brothels in a bid to ensure married couples have lesser distraction
5. enforce extended lunch hour, so couples can rendezvous for quikies
6. give incentives for accelerated pregnancy within 3mths after ROM
7. throw in extra baby bonus for shotgun marriages
8. up the stakes for those producing twins/ triplets/ more
9. full medical subsidy for those opting for artificial insemination
10. offer olympic medal incentives for those who produce half a dozen of kids

(sad to say, there's hardly any news on incentives for single-moms)

And raise the price of contraceptives to unaffordable prices like they've done for ciggies?
 

snrcitizen

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Loyal
The high birth rates stretched facilities at the Kandang Kerbau Hospital (KKH). Lee Suk Ting, a Nursing Officer, recounted the situation in 1962: The number of deliveries in KKH was at its peak, with an average of 100 deliveries per day. The number of beds available then fell far short of demand, and many deliveries were conducted with patients lying on the floor on mackintoshes or on transport trolleys. Patients in the early stages of labour sat for long hours on hard wooden benches waiting for a bed.

So they found that the shoe is too small for the foot, they decided to cut the foot to fit the shoe.

Recognising the potential impact of the high birth rates on the Republic's limited resources,Minister for Health, Mr. Yong Nyuk Lin, tabled a White Paper in Parliament in September 1965 and outlined a Five-year Mass Family Planning programme aimed at reducing the birth rate from 29.9 per thousand in 1965 to 20 per thousand in 1970.

A 5 year plan that ran into 21 years?

By the end of its third cycle in 1980, fertility rate had declined to 1.7 children per female population By then, however, Singapore’s economic growth and aging population meant that it needed to maintain a sizeable workforce. The family planning programme was revised in 1986 to encourage Singaporeans to have more children.

By 1980, the glaring statistics were already showing Singaporeans were not replacing themselves, not to mention growing the population for economic growth, and still they let it drag on for another 6 years till 1986 before they decided to reverse the plan and as we all know by that time it was too late.

What kind of leadership do we have here? Yet, they send NS men to the DB for sleeping on the watch.

Good post here, Sam.
 
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