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    read fm the papers this morning ..... understand vernerable ming yi has been slap with 10 charges for alleged forgery, conspiracy and misuse of funds ....

    sense of deja vu again ......

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    That's what happens when monks wear gold rolex and drive benz.

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    I wonder who will be next???

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    Quote Originally Posted by High Command View Post
    That's what happens when monks wear gold rolex and drive benz.
    does he travel first class too ?

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    Sure or not bro High Command, u hv seen Ven Ming Yi wearing Rolex n ride in Mercedes? Anyway, i m not surprise if he does bcos i also hv seen a few high ranking monks riding in Benz. And if anybody were to query them, they said it was donated by the followers.

    To me, even if it is true tat some rich followers hv purchased d Benz n donated d car to the temple for d use of the Chief Monk, the Chief Monk should reject this kindness n go on to advise these well-off followers to donate their money to good causes like, giving them to genuine charitable organisation (of any faith). There are many unfortunate people (especially those who are in need of medical attention) needs money to buy necessities like food and medication. If these money are given to them it can help to alleviate the sufferings of many unfortunate people. That is a better cause rather than buying Benz for the Chief Monk.

    As the Chief Monk or a monk, even if d follower is kind enuf to buy a car for the use of the monk so as to enable d monk to further his teaching of d Dharma and deliverance of all sentient beings, d monk shd just say to d follower tat dun buy a Benz, just buy a reliable car, like any of d cheap n good Japanese car. Keep it simple n straight forward. The purpose is just to help the monk to travel from point A to point B to help other people in need. Luxury shd not b the concern at all. As the Lord Buddha said, "We should just satisfy our needs and not our desires". Only then can we be a good and honest person. Only then can we have lesser sufferings.

    I dun wish to speak ill about the monk and I cannot speak ill of them. I just hope that the monks (esp those who r Chief Monk) should teach the followers to adhere strictly to the Dharma and practise them in good faith. The monks should nicely reject anything given to them that are more than just needs. Afterall, we came to this world without anything, not even a piece of cloth, and we will leave this world without anything. What we can bring with us when we leave this world is d Dharma and all the pujas that we have practised.

    As for Ven Ming Yi, I personally dun think he has intention to cheat on any of the funds that were managed by him. I guess it is an administration glitch in that certain procedures that ought to have been adhered to were overlooked or not followed. Anyhow, that is only my guess. Let the authorities investigate further and lets see what d Court will say if he is being charged.

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    Money is the root of all evil.

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    I seriously do hope that this will be just a case of glitch due to poor administration rather than vernerable Ming Yi having the intention to cheat on any of the funds that were entrusted and managed by him by the organization.

    Guess this will be the second case of another religious figure being called in for investigation after father Joakim Kang

    There are more than just a handful of unfortunate and needy folks out there whom really depended on all these fund raising campaigns and since the NKF issue had already placed an really huge dent in the confidence level of most Singaporean even when comes to fund raising campaigns by genuine charitable organisations.

    Do hope that the authorities will be able to clear things up after further investigating into this case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerboy18 View Post
    To me, even if it is true tat some rich followers hv purchased d Benz n donated d car to the temple for d use of the Chief Monk, the Chief Monk should reject this kindness n go on to advise these well-off followers to donate their money to good causes like, giving them to genuine charitable organisation (of any faith). There are many unfortunate people (especially those who are in need of medical attention) needs money to buy necessities like food and medication. If these money are given to them it can help to alleviate the sufferings of many unfortunate people. That is a better cause rather than buying Benz for the Chief Monk.
    Well said! Now that is how monks should behave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 55cents View Post
    Money is the root of all evil.
    Correction bro: The Lack of Money is the Root of all Evil.
    Hehehe.

    Now another T.T.Durai?? They caanot control once power get into their heads?? Haiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenggiri View Post
    Correction bro: The Lack of Money is the Root of all Evil.
    Hehehe.

    Now another T.T.Durai?? They caanot control once power get into their heads?? Haiz.
    I don't think it is that bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tigerboy18 View Post
    Sure or not bro High Command, u hv seen Ven Ming Yi wearing Rolex n ride in Mercedes? Anyway, i m not surprise if he does bcos i also hv seen a few high ranking monks riding in Benz. And if anybody were to query them, they said it was donated by the followers.

    To me, even if it is true tat some rich followers hv purchased d Benz n donated d car to the temple for d use of the Chief Monk, the Chief Monk should reject this kindness n go on to advise these well-off followers to donate their money to good causes like, giving them to genuine charitable organisation (of any faith). There are many unfortunate people (especially those who are in need of medical attention) needs money to buy necessities like food and medication. If these money are given to them it can help to alleviate the sufferings of many unfortunate people. That is a better cause rather than buying Benz for the Chief Monk.

    As the Chief Monk or a monk, even if d follower is kind enuf to buy a car for the use of the monk so as to enable d monk to further his teaching of d Dharma and deliverance of all sentient beings, d monk shd just say to d follower tat dun buy a Benz, just buy a reliable car, like any of d cheap n good Japanese car. Keep it simple n straight forward. The purpose is just to help the monk to travel from point A to point B to help other people in need. Luxury shd not b the concern at all. As the Lord Buddha said, "We should just satisfy our needs and not our desires". Only then can we be a good and honest person. Only then can we have lesser sufferings.

    I dun wish to speak ill about the monk and I cannot speak ill of them. I just hope that the monks (esp those who r Chief Monk) should teach the followers to adhere strictly to the Dharma and practise them in good faith. The monks should nicely reject anything given to them that are more than just needs. Afterall, we came to this world without anything, not even a piece of cloth, and we will leave this world without anything. What we can bring with us when we leave this world is d Dharma and all the pujas that we have practised.

    As for Ven Ming Yi, I personally dun think he has intention to cheat on any of the funds that were managed by him. I guess it is an administration glitch in that certain procedures that ought to have been adhered to were overlooked or not followed. Anyhow, that is only my guess. Let the authorities investigate further and lets see what d Court will say if he is being charged.
    Tigerboy18, i like the way you analyze. Did Buddha really said that? I hope that you will share more about Buddhism at a layman level because i deeply admire his compassionate spirit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Imperious View Post
    I don't think it is that bad.
    Hope so bro but we shall see k. The charges seem to be quite serious. CBT leh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tenggiri View Post
    Hope so bro but we shall see k. The charges seem to be quite serious. CBT leh.
    Still to early to say but the forgery part is disturbing very distrubing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kakowi View Post
    Tigerboy18, i like the way you analyze. Did Buddha really said that? I hope that you will share more about Buddhism at a layman level because i deeply admire his compassionate spirit.
    Actually bro tigerboy18 pretty much sums up the spirit of Buddhism he has shown great enlightenment.

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    today shits of botak was anticipated in yesterday cesspool.
    emptiness is form...form is emptiness
    have u wonder why i m being targeted by mastershapeshifter n his clones?
    USD is choped standby party for SDP. why like that? SF is sdp's latest subsidiary. wow!! the opp with the most branches!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 55cents View Post
    Money is the root of all evil.
    The person behind the money is the evil. Money is just a tool. Put the money in the hands of someone with REAL kindness and benevolence, he can help a lot of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 55cents View Post
    Money is the root of all evil.
    It's not money that is the root of all evil.
    It's the love of money that is the root of all evil.

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    wonder how life behind bar for a monk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jw5 View Post
    It's not money that is the root of all evil.
    It's the love of money that is the root of all evil.
    I love money too. It buys me freedom. But i dun think i am evil. I never do anything that harms others or cheat others.

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    Just read on the internet tat d Ven Ming Yi has been charged wif 10 charges of alleged forgery, conspiracy n misuse of funds.

    Bro Kakowi, wat I have said is true. It is d teaching of d Lord Buddha. You see, what trouble us or get us into trouble is tis thing called "Greed". Greed is incidentally 1 of the 10 deadly sins in d Bible. Greed drives up our desires. And when greed is out of control it can b so very dangerous. Not only that person could harm himself or get himself into troubles, he also could get his peers and/or family into troubles. Therefore it is most impt tat we must control our desires. The best way to control greed or desires, I believe, is to learn to be contented, feel contented. When we are contented, any flame of greed or desires cannot burn and be extinguished.

    Please dun be mistaken hor, I m not preaching any religion here. I am just sharing some shallow philosophy of life tat I have learnt. I certainly have not attained enlightenment as some bros here said. You flattered me liao. There r so much to learn and I m learning.

    Next few weeks and going to the 4 August 2008 when d case of Ven Ming Yi starts will be very interesting. I guess tis should b d most difficult challenge for tis 'daring' monk besides all those daring stances tat he had done during those funds raising event for Ren Ci Hosp.

    Well, if he is innocent, d Buddhas n all d Devas will know and he will be vindicated. The law of "Cause and Effect" in Buddhism will always hold. Good Cause will lead to good Effect, n Bad Cause will surely lead to bad Effect.

    And if he has really done wrong he will have to answer to d Buddhas, even if his 'powerful' lawyers could get him off.

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