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PM Lee Is Selectively Picking Facts To Ssupport His Flawed Policies

xingguy

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Source: The Real Singapore

RAVI PHILEMON: PM LEE IS SELECTIVELY PICKING FACTS TO SUPPORT HIS FLAWED POLICIES
Post date: 4 Sep 2014 - 10:44pm

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In #‎AskPMLee the PM pointed to #‎Australia to say that #‎Singapore can take a similar approach as that country which recently proposed raising retirement age to 70, and will phase it in by the year 2030.

What PM Lee did not mention is, the retirement age in Australia is set at 65 from the year 1908, and that they will only be raising it by 5 years in a few years. In Singapore the retirement age was set at 60 in the year 1993 (before that people generally retired at age 55). In 1999, this was raised to 62 and is still the retirement age. Employers though, have to offer re-employment till 65. So unlike Australia, which will raise retirement age by 5 years, Singapore plans to raise the retirement age by 15.

The reason retirement age is important in Australia is because they have an old-age pension which kicks-in at the age of retirement. Singapore has no such pension scheme and citizens generally draw from their own savings in CPF for their old-age needs.

In Australian Government's proposal to raise the retirement age is not without opposition. Some experts in Australia have pointed out that poorer people and Aborigines were less likely to survive till 70. Is the story the same for Singapore? Do the more affluent live longer than those that are less well-off? If so, how will raising the retirement age affect this group of people? What is the life expectancy of the different races here? Will it affect some races more than the others?

In Australia they have unemployment benefits, meaning those that are unemployed because of unfair age-discrimination or are in physically demanding jobs and so may not be able to slog it out for a few more years before reaching retirement, can rely on unemployment benefits. Even if they are less than pension, at least it will tide them through. Do workers in Singapore have such unemployment benefits?



In my opinion, raising the retirement age without duly considering many other factors will adversely affect a significant number of Singaporeans. Many other questions also arise. For example, will the CPF draw-down age be raised, where the Minimum Sum will be locked away for a good 15 years (from the 10 now), and Members be allowed to receive payouts only from age 70?



Ravi Philemon

*Article first appeared on https://www.facebook.com/raviphilemon


End Of Article​

 

borom

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An example of why we need to have a strong opposition and an active academia to voice the truth and present the complete facts.

Not so long ago the PAP was comparing Mah Bow Tan's 'O' Level results with that of Chiam See Tong- and now LHL is saying there may be more MPs who are ITE and poly graduates (implying academic results not important)-what a flip flop.
 

xingguy

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i'm all ready to defend the pm and his facts. cum debate here. :biggrin:

You can debate all you want. For 50 years, did PAP even listen, be it from outsider or from their own people.

Do not even harbour a glimmer of hope that they will change. The change has to come from us.

You can watch the change in the comfort of your Bay area come next GE :biggrin:

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winnipegjets

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Source: The Real Singapore

RAVI PHILEMON: PM LEE IS SELECTIVELY PICKING FACTS TO SUPPORT HIS FLAWED POLICIES
Post date: 4 Sep 2014 - 10:44pm

pmlee_2.jpg


In #‎AskPMLee the PM pointed to #‎Australia to say that #‎Singapore can take a similar approach as that country which recently proposed raising retirement age to 70, and will phase it in by the year 2030.

What PM Lee did not mention is, the retirement age in Australia is set at 65 from the year 1908, and that they will only be raising it by 5 years in a few years. In Singapore the retirement age was set at 60 in the year 1993 (before that people generally retired at age 55). In 1999, this was raised to 62 and is still the retirement age. Employers though, have to offer re-employment till 65. So unlike Australia, which will raise retirement age by 5 years, Singapore plans to raise the retirement age by 15.

The reason retirement age is important in Australia is because they have an old-age pension which kicks-in at the age of retirement. Singapore has no such pension scheme and citizens generally draw from their own savings in CPF for their old-age needs.

In Australian Government's proposal to raise the retirement age is not without opposition. Some experts in Australia have pointed out that poorer people and Aborigines were less likely to survive till 70. Is the story the same for Singapore? Do the more affluent live longer than those that are less well-off? If so, how will raising the retirement age affect this group of people? What is the life expectancy of the different races here? Will it affect some races more than the others?

In Australia they have unemployment benefits, meaning those that are unemployed because of unfair age-discrimination or are in physically demanding jobs and so may not be able to slog it out for a few more years before reaching retirement, can rely on unemployment benefits. Even if they are less than pension, at least it will tide them through. Do workers in Singapore have such unemployment benefits?



In my opinion, raising the retirement age without duly considering many other factors will adversely affect a significant number of Singaporeans. Many other questions also arise. For example, will the CPF draw-down age be raised, where the Minimum Sum will be locked away for a good 15 years (from the 10 now), and Members be allowed to receive payouts only from age 70?



Ravi Philemon

*Article first appeared on https://www.facebook.com/raviphilemon


End Of Article​


Australia's plan to raise retirement age to 70 will be eliminated by the next government.
 

winnipegjets

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An example of why we need to have a strong opposition and an active academia to voice the truth and present the complete facts.

Not so long ago the PAP was comparing Mah Bow Tan's 'O' Level results with that of Chiam See Tong- and now LHL is saying there may be more MPs who are ITE and poly graduates (implying academic results not important)-what a flip flop.

We need to make the PAP the opposition.
 

Qantas

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An example of why we need to have a strong opposition and an active academia to voice the truth and present the complete facts.

Not so long ago the PAP was comparing Mah Bow Tan's 'O' Level results with that of Chiam See Tong- and now LHL is saying there may be more MPs who are ITE and poly graduates (implying academic results not important)-what a flip flop.

What about the Graduate Mothers' Scheme where they try to persuade Sinkie graduate men to marry only graduate women as non-graduate mums produce inferior kids. LOL:mad:
 

AfterTheWar

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You can debate all you want. For 50 years, did PAP even listen, be it from outsider or from their own people.

Do not even harbour a glimmer of hope that they will change. The change has to come from us.

You can watch the change in the comfort of your Bay area come next GE :biggrin:

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Nice pic! nice pic! Can't wait to tweet my friends about it! Thanks!
 

Papsmearer

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Gay Loong is truly stupid. When they want to hold on to your CPF money, they point to a country like Australia and say "see, those guys retire at 70". But when they want to justify their salary and bonuses, they point to Switzerland, and say "Swiss standard of Living". Someone should tell these assholes that the Swiss retirement age is 65. If they want to attain a Swiss standard of living, than it goes too that the retirement age (which allows the swiss to have this standard in their retirement) should also be adopted by Singapore.
 

batman1

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This fake conversation with the citizens by Pinky is a pussy cat talk with 2 very friendly hosts.Fake coversation to just build the ego of the grinning and head overblown Pinky.This type of show only can bluff kids.
Want real questions see Hard Talk at BBC.
 

laksaboy

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Gay Loong is truly stupid. When they want to hold on to your CPF money, they point to a country like Australia and say "see, those guys retire at 70". But when they want to justify their salary and bonuses, they point to Switzerland, and say "Swiss standard of Living". Someone should tell these assholes that the Swiss retirement age is 65. If they want to attain a Swiss standard of living, than it goes too that the retirement age (which allows the swiss to have this standard in their retirement) should also be adopted by Singapore.

Cherry picking facts and figures. That's what dishonest people do. :wink:
 

kingrant

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Not only selective about facts on tv, but look at the Budget 2014 booklet sent to all households.

Never talk about higher property taxes, higher annual values, more ERPs, more gantries, VEP etc.

Only talk about the good things.
 

iluvgst

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truly a wayang party. until the PM, half the cabinet ministers and perm secs are ITE and poly alumni will one believe the party is honest and sincere in changing their elitist mindset. The newly recruited ITE and poly MPs will only be back benchers for wayang in parliament.
 

Buaya

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The moment saw it on CH 5, immediately I switched to other channels.

I think the 60.1 glued their eyes on it.
 
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