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Why PAP don't sue New York Times for Libel? Cowardice?

Papsmearer

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Of course if any oppo parties were to post this editorial on their websites, PAP will sue them for libel till the cows come home. But they wouldn't dare to sue New York Times in a US court. What does this say about the PAP?They are just bullies who suka suka sue anyone they want here in Singapore. But when they go out to the real world, they are timid as mice. If PAP feels so wronged by the NYT editorial, go ahead and pursue legal action lah. Fucking cowards. Its obvious to the world the NYT article is accurate. Release simi lancheow strongly worded statement?

Singapore hits back over NYT editorial on 'Singapore's angry migrant workers'

Singapore has released a strongly worded statement slamming the New York Times over an editorial it published last month entitled "Singapore's angry migrant workers".

The statement, which was undersigned by Singapore ambassador to the United States, Ashok Mirpuri, took issue with the editorial which claimed December's Little India riot was caused by the frustration of migrant workers over wages and living conditions.

Ambassador Mirpuri had written to the New York Times a few days later after the editorial was published on December 28 and sought to clarify the facts.

Among the points he raised was that there was no evidence the riot had been caused by the issues mentioned. To illustrate this, he pointed out that the rioters were employed by different employers and stayed in different dormitories, and that the riot — which occurred on a day off for the workers -- had not spread to dormitories, workplaces or any other location.

Screengrab of the NYT editorial published last month.



However, MCI said the NYT repeatedly refused to carry the Ambassador's response to the editorial, instead raising fresh objections each time their previous objections were met.

"The New York Times, like any other newspaper, is entitled to express its own opinions. But when it suppresses rejoinders that express a contrary view, and show that the Times is mistaken, it gives the lie to its claim to champion freedom of speech and the truth," the MCI statement said.

Included in the six-paragraph editorial that was published on its website, the New York Times had written, "Migrant laborers are paid as little as 2 Singapore dollars, or US$1.60, per hour. Few speak fluent English, the country’s working language, and most live in crowded dormitories away from residential areas."

"They typically are at the mercy of employers, owe high debt to hiring agents and have few means of expressing grievances… Casting the riot in Little India as an isolated law-and-order problem does not address Singapore’s larger demographic problem. If Singapore is to preserve its high standard of living, it must ensure that the millions of transient workers who contribute so much to the economy are not marginalized and abused," it concluded.
 

Leongsam

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Unlike the independent and world class Judiciary that Singapore has, the American justice system is an abject failure and the chances of the Singapore government receiving a fair trial are extremely remote.

The Singapore government does not want to openly criticise the US system as it would cause a major diplomatic row. However, they are wise enough not to waste taxpayer money taking the NYT to court as it would be a lost cause from the start.

Here is an abstract from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/conrad-black/us-justice-system_b_1110623.html

Almost everything about the American system is wrong. Grand juries are a rubber stamp for the prosecutors; assets are routinely frozen or seized in ex parte actions on the basis of false government affidavits, so targets don't have the resources to pay avaricious American counsel and are thrust into the hands of public defenders, who are usually just Judas goats for the prosecutors. The prosecutors poison the jury pool with a media lynching at the start; bail is often outrageously high, and prosecutions and ancillary proceedings from the SEC, IRS, etc., drag on for a whole decade, all contrary to the Fifth, Sixth, and Eighth Amendments. The plea bargain system, for which prosecutors would be disbarred in most other serious countries, enables prosecutors to threaten everyone around the target with indictment if they don't miraculously recall, under careful government coaching, inculpatory evidence. Prosecutors win 95 per cent of their cases, 90 per cent of those without a trial, and people who exercise their constitutionally guaranteed right to go to trial receive more than three times the sentence they receive if they cop a plea, as a penalty for exercising their rights.

Do you want your taxpayer dollars to be wasted pursing legal action knowing how rotten the US legal system is? I certainly wouldn't
 

Papsmearer

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Unlike the independent and world class Judiciary that Singapore has, the American justice system is an abject failure and the chances of the Singapore government receiving a fair trial are extremely remote.

The Singapore government does not want to openly criticise the US system as it would cause a major diplomatic row. However, they are wise enough not to waste taxpayer money taking the NYT to court as it would be a lost cause from the start.

Here is an abstract from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/conrad-black/us-justice-system_b_1110623.html



Do you want your taxpayer dollars to be wasted pursing legal action knowing how rotten the US legal system is? I certainly wouldn't

What price do u put on singapore's reputation? Surely, this NYT article has besmirched Singapore. How many tours canceled their trips to singapore? How many MNC decided to locate somewhere else due to this article? Maybe a PAP prostitute like u can out a price on your balls licking, but surely, its worth the money to save Singapore's reputation, if not just to bring back lost business. Only disloyal traitors think like u.
 
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Leongsam

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What price do u put on singapore's reputation? Surely, this NYT article has besmirched Singapore. How many tours canceled their trips to singapore? How many MNC decided to locate somewhere else due to this article? Maybe a PAP prostitute like u can out a price on your balls licking, but surely, its worth the money to save Singapore's reputation, if not just to bring back lost business. Only disloyal traitors think like u.

You're being ridiculous. No tourist is going to cancel a trip to Singapore just because of an article in the NYT. Look at all the bad publicity that China receives in the US Media on an ongoing basis and it hasn't affected investment and tourism in the least.

Businessmen invest in a country when there is money to be made. Tourists visit for some fun. A NYT article is the opinion of one journalist. There are thousands of other articles that refer to Singapore in glowing terms.

To waste hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees simply isn't worth it. The money comes from the taxpayer and the PAP is very prudent when it comes to spending from the public coffers.
 

Reddog

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Unlike the independent and world class Judiciary that Singapore has, the American justice system is an abject failure and the chances of the Singapore government receiving a fair trial are extremely remote.

The Singapore government does not want to openly criticise the US system as it would cause a major diplomatic row. However, they are wise enough not to waste taxpayer money taking the NYT to court as it would be a lost cause from the start.

Here is an abstract from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/conrad-black/us-justice-system_b_1110623.html



Do you want your taxpayer dollars to be wasted pursing legal action knowing how rotten the US legal system is? I certainly wouldn't

Are you saying that the pap can sue and win only in Sinkapore ?? Ridiculous !
 

Bigfuck

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That's not ridiculous, that's a most obvious fact that's plain for all to see.

PAP dogs are stupid and are scheduled for termination when the time comes. NAIR made LKY look like a bladdy fool when his lawyers fumbled and looked like dropouts from law school when they attempted to sue NAIR in North America. Everyone knows LKY and his dogs are illiterate.
 

Papsmearer

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That's not ridiculous, that's a most obvious fact that's plain for all to see.

U can see how sensitive the PAP are to various media reports by the speed and strenght of Leongsam's response to my thread. The idiot is flying in to defend the PAP by saying that it would cost the taxpayer too much money to sue NYT in the US, while conveniently forgetting that the same govt. has lost billions of taxpayers $ in the same city thru buying worthless shares in companies such as Merrill Lynch. this editorial from NYT must be a really sticky point for the PAP.
 
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eatshitndie

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every long time reader of newspapers in the u.s. knows the nyt is a piece of garbage. there's no need to defend the trash that is written in them. :rolleyes:
 

Akechi Mitsuhide

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U can see how sensitive the PAP are to various media reports by the speed and strenght of Leongsam's response to my thread. The idiot is flying in to defend the PAP by saying that it would cost the taxpayer too much money to sue NYT in the US, while conveniently forgetting that the same govt. has lost billions of taxpayers $ in the same city thru buying worthless shares in companies such as Merrill Lynch. this editorial from NYT must be a really sticky point for the PAP.

And that's why Lui Tuck Yew is so afraid of Al Jazeera that he banned it when he was the Minister for Information, Communications and the Arts. :biggrin:

Al Jazeera is one of the best!


http://www.aljazeera.com/
 

winnipegjets

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However, MCI said the NYT repeatedly refused to carry the Ambassador's response to the editorial, instead raising fresh objections each time their previous objections were met.

"The New York Times, like any other newspaper, is entitled to express its own opinions. But when it suppresses rejoinders that express a contrary view, and show that the Times is mistaken, it gives the lie to its claim to champion freedom of speech and the truth," the MCI statement said.


Alamak, the sinkapore government doesn't get it ...why would the NYT publish a reply that sheds no additional light? Readers of NYT expect quality content and the letter from the ambassador does not meet the quality standard.
What a joke ...sinkapore practices censorship and yet it expects others to afford it free speech.

Included in the six-paragraph editorial that was published on its website, the New York Times had written, "Migrant laborers are paid as little as 2 Singapore dollars, or US$1.60, per hour. Few speak fluent English, the country’s working language, and most live in crowded dormitories away from residential areas."

"They typically are at the mercy of employers, owe high debt to hiring agents and have few means of expressing grievances… Casting the riot in Little India as an isolated law-and-order problem does not address Singapore’s larger demographic problem. If Singapore is to preserve its high standard of living, it must ensure that the millions of transient workers who contribute so much to the economy are not marginalized and abused," it concluded.

This fact remains. So, what has the ambassador said that add new info?
 

winnipegjets

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You're being ridiculous. No tourist is going to cancel a trip to Singapore just because of an article in the NYT. Look at all the bad publicity that China receives in the US Media on an ongoing basis and it hasn't affected investment and tourism in the least.

Businessmen invest in a country when there is money to be made. Tourists visit for some fun. A NYT article is the opinion of one journalist. There are thousands of other articles that refer to Singapore in glowing terms.

To waste hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal fees simply isn't worth it. The money comes from the taxpayer and the PAP is very prudent when it comes to spending from the public coffers.

Very truth. Cheapo PAP would rather spend the money on more foreign trips for ministers. They are not going to win in the US court and will be embarrassed.
 

zhihau

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The money comes from the taxpayer and the PAP is very prudent when it comes to spending from the public coffers.

VB hasn't answered for busting the YOG budget... and don't let people remember the renaming exercises done for Marina Bay and the Budget Terminal, please.
 

Leongsam

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VB hasn't answered for busting the YOG budget... and don't let people remember the renaming exercises done for Marina Bay and the Budget Terminal, please.

YOG was Singapore's first attempt at running such a large and complex event. It is very difficult to budget for something when you don't have an in-depth knowledge of all the intricacies.

I have made many budgeting errors in new ventures simply because issues cropped up that I did not even know existed. However, the next time round, I was pretty much on the money.

The government isn't infallible. However, as is the case with most things in life, you have to look at the broad picture. The Singapore government gets it right far more often than it gets things wrong.

Even the legendary Steve Jobs made big mistakes along the way... Next computers, the cube, the puck mouse, Liza come to mind. However, that didn't stop him from going on to produce great products that changed the world.

The Singapore government is no different. They have their share of duds but boy have they succeeded in a spectacular manner in making Singapore one of the best countries on earth.
 

zhihau

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They have their share of duds but boy have they succeeded in a spectacular manner in making Singapore one of the best countries on earth.

yeah! it's so spectacular that those who are able had made plans to migrate and/or have already migrated out of here!
 
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