Angmoh FT now say parking in Singapore should be as high as Tokyo and Hong Kong

laksa · Oct 9, 2013

Parking policy 'can be tool to spur public transport use'

Oct 09, 2013

By Royston Sim

One way to encourage people to take buses and trains instead of cars into the city is to make parking spaces there even scarcer.

That will push parking charges up and force people to think twice about driving, said Assistant Professor Paul Barter from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy yesterday, pointing out that this was how other major cities around the world managed traffic.

The average monthly season parking fee in Tokyo and Hong Kong is around $920. For London, it is nearly $1,340. But in Singapore, the price of parking in the Central Business District (CBD) was $278.20 every month in 2011.

"In a city like Singapore where we are not trying to encourage car use, the parking policy seems to be inconsistent with the rest of the transport policy, in that we're trying to make sure there's enough parking," said the parking policy expert.

Leongsam · Oct 9, 2013

That Ang Moh is absolutely right. There certainly are a high number of smart Ang Mohs in Singapore. I guess they're needed to generate jobs and keep the economy buoyant.

Cestbon · Oct 9, 2013

Agree SG parking rate are really low and cheap.

saratogas · Oct 9, 2013

Those countries charge High prices for parking, Singapore charge users ERP when they leave the car park!

Just different ways of earning $$$!

xebay11 · Oct 9, 2013

Leongsam said:
That Ang Moh is absolutely right. There certainly are a high number of smart Ang Mohs in Singapore. I guess they're needed to generate jobs and keep the economy buoyant.

Duh, he was just stating the obvoius, of course no Sinkie will bring this up as it will hurt their pocket.

gingerlyn · Oct 9, 2013

Assistant Professor Paul Barter from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy yesterday, pointing out that this was how other major cities around the world managed traffic.

THis professor has the prawn brain. His brain has the size of prawn and full of shit.

In London, Hong Kong etc, people there do not pay COE and of course they can afford to pay high parking fees.

Why only compare with Carpark? we shall compare in totality. how about comparing petrol tax, ERP and COE and carpark together?

greenies · Oct 9, 2013

Let's sump up total estimated cost of car ownership in Singapore in 1st 10 years...

Start with <1600 cc car: -

1) COE - $80,000 for 10 yrs ---> $668 per month
2) OMV, ARF etc. - $50,000 for 10 yrs ---> $415 per month
3) Parking fees at home and office CBD area ---> $70+$280 per month
4) Road tax - $720 yearly ---> $60 per month
5) Vehicle inspection fees at interval of 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th yr - total $400, monthly spread out at $3.50

Then, the total cost could be $1,396 per month over the car ownership for 10 years.
It does not include ERP cost, various costs depending on car usage and repair.

After 10 yrs ownership, you get back at about $10,000 ---> monthly $95.

greenies · Oct 9, 2013

And, do not forget the basic economics .... the present value of upfront COE and ARF costs shall be much greater > 2 times? at the end of 10 years.

The best model to compare the car ownership costs is yearly cash flow and layout over 10 yrs, accounting with compound interest.

??? Who dares to say our car ownership cost is cheaper than our peer cities.
However we should be happy if pappies charge those level of parking fees and then, make Sinkie land higher, highest and highestest living cost, which may escalate into their vote losing below 2/3 majority.

greenies said:
Let's sump up total estimated cost of car ownership in Singapore in 1st 10 years...

Start with <1600 cc car: -

1) COE - $80,000 for 10 yrs ---> $668 per month
2) OMV, ARF etc. - $50,000 for 10 yrs ---> $415 per month
3) Parking fees at home and office CBD area ---> $70+$280 per month
4) Road tax - $720 yearly ---> $60 per month
5) Vehicle inspection fees at interval of 3rd, 5th, 7th and 9th yr - total $400, monthly spread out at $3.50

Then, the total cost could be $1,396 per month over the car ownership for 10 years.
It does not include ERP cost, various costs depending on car usage and repair.

After 10 yrs ownership, you get back at about $10,000 ---> monthly $95.

gingerlyn · Oct 9, 2013

greenies said:
And, do not forget the basic economics .... the present value of upfront COE and ARF costs shall be much greater > 2 times? At the end of 10 years.

The best model to compare the car ownership costs is yearly cash flow and layout over 10 yrs, accounting with compound interest.

??? Who dares to say our car ownership cost is cheaper than our peer cities.
However we should be happy if pappies charge those level of parking fees and then, make Sinkie land higher and higher living cost, which may escalate into vote losing.

I think Assistant Professor Paul Barter from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy just trying to please his paymaster and PAP regime and he has no backbone. we cannot blame him as there is no academic freedom in Singapore.

singveld · Oct 9, 2013

we got COE so no need for high parking fee.

greenies · Oct 9, 2013

gingerlyn said:
I think Assistant Professor Paul Barter from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy just trying to please his paymaster and PAP regime and he has no backbone. we cannot blame him as there is no academic freedom in Singapore.

Agreed.

That is the problem with all those so-called FTs, professors and elite slaves, who are provided with lots of free meals.... accommodation, car, driver, maid, kid schooling, allowance, etc. etc.
They might never see and feel the reality here.

Thus, we found that Their saying and policy making decision are always pros toward certainly groups.

Agoraphobic · Oct 9, 2013

Boss, wish to know, in what way does this "smart" ang moh's statement generate more jobs and kept the economy buoyant?

Cheers!

Leongsam said:
That Ang Moh is absolutely right. There certainly are a high number of smart Ang Mohs in Singapore. I guess they're needed to generate jobs and keep the economy buoyant.

greenies · Oct 9, 2013

singveld said:
we got COE so no need for high parking fee.

Exactly.
In fact, many HDB dwellers were asking in the past about HDB parking fee structure.
Why can't they park their cars at any of the HDB car parks?
Why does HDB allow free parking for certain members? Etc.
So many carrots in Sinkie land, but to get those you must be a member and yesman.

IlkayGundogan · Oct 9, 2013

Is that's him?

Unrepented · Oct 9, 2013

Just reduce the number of parking lots, free the space for more condos. :rolleyes:

Stimulate the economy, fry up the prices and collect more property tax.

laksa said:
Parking policy 'can be tool to spur public transport use'

Oct 09, 2013

By Royston Sim

One way to encourage people to take buses and trains instead of cars into the city is to make parking spaces there even scarcer.

That will push parking charges up and force people to think twice about driving, said Assistant Professor Paul Barter from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy yesterday, pointing out that this was how other major cities around the world managed traffic.

The average monthly season parking fee in Tokyo and Hong Kong is around $920. For London, it is nearly $1,340. But in Singapore, the price of parking in the Central Business District (CBD) was $278.20 every month in 2011.

"In a city like Singapore where we are not trying to encourage car use, the parking policy seems to be inconsistent with the rest of the transport policy, in that we're trying to make sure there's enough parking," said the parking policy expert.

kopisiewdai · Oct 9, 2013

gingerlyn said:
I think Assistant Professor Paul Barter from the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy just trying to please his paymaster and PAP regime and he has no backbone. we cannot blame him as there is no academic freedom in Singapore.

must be his tenure up for renewal liao. por lampa until like that.

kent1980 · Oct 9, 2013

Full of shit ang moh is in ball carrying mode.

sta1100 · Oct 9, 2013

CCB Angmoh CB mouth.

The_Hypocrite · Oct 9, 2013

Has this white trash consider the cost of COE n taxes etc on a car? In hk. U rent a car park n in pommieland no COE hor. Has he done a comparison on total purchase price of cars in all cities b4 he did comparisons on parking charges? Or he use parking charges only?

gingerlyn · Oct 9, 2013

Paul Barter academic credential.
http://lkyspp.nus.edu.sg/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/Barter_CV_2011.pdf

His PHD is from Murdoch university.
as a general rule of thumb, usually universities that provide medical degree are good university.
The good universities are:
Australia National University
Melbourne University
Sydney University
Monash University.

Murdoch is definetely not a good university.
http://www.australianuniversities.com.au/rankings/

pls shame this "prostitusor" :kma:
Murdoch is ranked at the bottom of the table.

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