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Prof Bryan Caplan, You Are So Wrong About Singapore!

sgnewsalte

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Oh Prof Caplan, you are so wrong about Singapore in your interview. Your views are tinted by your stint in Singapore Civil Service College, and it is understandable since that is where your bread is buttered. :rolleyes: Hope that someone can write to Prof Caplan to enlighten him about the real political situation here.

http://www.gadling.com/2008/12/08/talking-travel-and-singapore-with-economist-bryan-caplan

Talking Travel (and Singapore) with economist Bryan Caplan

by Aaron Hotfelder Dec 8th 2008 @ 8:00AM
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"I used to think the same things as everyone else," economist Bryan Caplan said in a recent podcast, "and then I started reading economics."


I too was a pretty conventional thinker once upon a time, and then I began following provocative economics blogs by the likes of Tyler Cowen, Will Wilkinson, and Chris Blattman (all three Gadling interviewees-- really, click the links!)
One of my new favorite bloggers, Bryan Caplan recently visited the unusual city-state of Singapore and wrote about some of the most interesting aspects of his trip at his blog, EconLog (see here, here, and here, for starters).

Bryan and I recently chatted about Singapore's rather unconventional policies, some misconceptions that are often shared about the country, and why travel memories are the most valuable to those who live longest....

Singapore is often thought of as an authoritarian dictatorship and it's strict laws are well-known-- corporal punishment is still employed, drug trafficking is punishable by death. But at the same time, it seems to be undergoing a period of liberalization. Why, in your view, is this happening?


Well, I think it's not true that it's a dictatorship. It's a British parliamentary system and by the accounts of international observers the elections are not corrupt. Really what you have is just the ruling party has managed to win up to 60% of the vote in every election for the last 40 years. Which I'll admit is strange, but I was thinking about it more upon getting back, and I realized that when you think about Singapore as a city rather than a country, there are lots of cities where one party has been in power for 40 years in the United States. For example, the Democrats have been in charge in San Francisco for longer than a single party has been in charge in Singapore.




So it's not true to say that it's not a democracy. You could make a case that it's not a liberal democracy-- you've got corporal punishment and a wider use of the death penalty. But in terms of liberalization, my main guess would be that it's modernizing like other Asian countries, and as countries modernize they become more Western, and the attitudes of the population become more similar to those of other developed countries.

And the Internet has a lot to do with it. On the one hand, the standard media are quite dull, but they have a very active blogosphere that the government doesn't censor, and that's where a lot of intellectually alive people are getting their information. The only Internet censorship they have is that they have a token list of about 100 porn sites that they block, but that doesn't make much difference because there are a lot more than 100 out there.

What policies has Singapore adopted that have allowed it to flourish?


There's a lot going on in Singapore, but what is unique about it is that its government is much more willing to follow policies that economists think of as economically efficient. They're much more willing to use incentives, and they're one of the few really free trade countries.

What about the immigration policy in Singapore?

It's very interesting-- about 25% of Singapore's population is foreign-born. It's certainly not free immigration but it's a much less restrictive policy than in, say, the United States. It's a lot easier to get low-skilled laborers into Singapore. This probably has a lot to do with the fact that the public is very deferential to the government. One of the main kinds of complaints about the main party is that it does allow in a lot of immigrants. Probably if there were a vote just on immigration policy, Singapore would keep out a lot more people than it does.

What are some misconceptions that residents of Western countries
might have about Singapore?

People think it's not a democracy, or they think the elections are corrupt. And those seem to be false. The idea that it's a rigid, rules-based society, there's something to that, but it wasn't nearly as rigid as I was expecting. [COLOR=_______]I blogged about the fact that on the walls at the civil service college there are a bunch of things that make fun of government and government policy.[/COLOR]
Before I went to Singapore, they asked me what I'd like to talk about and I said public opinion in Singapore: Do they actually support these unusually economically-efficient policies? Some Americans I talked to said they'll never talk about that, that my trip was going to get cancelled. But it was nothing like that. [COLOR=_______]They set up a very interesting lunch with one of their main sociologists who works in public opinion. Later that day I had the same discussion with an audience of civil servants. [/COLOR]And not only were they happy to talk about their government's policies, they were enthusiastic.

What were some of their feelings about the West?

I think they think they are the West. They identify with the US more than with Britain because of television. The older generation still feels British while the younger generation feels American.

One of your colleagues Alex Tabarrok says that people tend to have a status quo bias about travel-- that if they knew their lives would be longer, they'd travel more, and they'd also travel more if they knew their lives were going to be shorter. Do you feel the same way?

Alex thinks that's a paradox. But my thinking is that if I knew I was going to live longer, I'd travel more. If I knew I'm going to live less, I'd travel less. With a longer life, you have more time for experimentation and to see what else is going on in the world. And also your memories are like a durable good-- you get to keep them with you for as long as you live. The longer your life is, the better the memories are to have. But if I knew I had six months to live, I probably wouldn't go anywhere. I'd probably stay home and enjoy the things I've worked for.
 

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this forum is filled with strange and prejudiced bozos.

when foreigners complain about this place, it's always true to them. when they compliment our very own singapore - strangely, it's always untrue.

just one simple question:

are we proud to be singaporean or are we, like those loser bozos, too ashamed about being singaporean?

if u r from the sdppies, get lost! your answer is obvious!:rolleyes:
 

guavatree

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are we proud to be singaporean or are we, like those loser bozos, too ashamed about being singaporean?

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, hypocrite, deceiver, all rolled into one!

fuckwit why are you so proud of your criminal achievements ????

Engaged in illicit gay activities is a crime!

Stealing temple donations is a crime!

Bashing your father is a crime!

Conning property is a crime!
 

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old fart bapok bob sim's criminal achivements!

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, hypocrite, deceiver, all rolled into one!


Gay illicit activities:

Penal Code Section 377A states, “Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years.”

Cheating:

Whoever, by deceiving any person, fraudulently or dishonestly induces the person so deceived to deliver any property to any person, or to consent that any person shall retain any property, or intentionally induces the person so deceived to do or omit to do anything which he or she would not do or omit if he or she were not so deceived, and which act or omission causes or is likely to cause damage or harm to that person in body, mind, reputation or property, is said to "cheat". For example, A cheats if he intentionally deceives Z into a belief that A means to repay any money that Z may lend to him when A does not intend to repay it, and thereby dishonestly induces Z to lend him money. Cheating is punished with imprisonment of up to one year, or a fine, or both.

Father bashing:

Voluntarily causing hurt – A person causes hurt when he or she causes bodily pain, disease or infirmity to any person. Whoever does any act with the intention of causing hurt to any person, or with the knowledge that he is likely to cause hurt to any person, and does cause hurt to any person, voluntarily causes hurt. The penalty for voluntarily causing hurt is imprisonment of up to one year, or a fine of up to S$1,000, or both.

Theft of Temple Funds:

Theft is committed when a person, intending to take dishonestly any movable property out of the possession of any person without that person’s consent, moves that property in order to effect the taking. The penalty for theft is imprisonment of up to three years, or a fine, or both. It is more common, however, for offenders to be charged with committing theft in a building, tent or vessel, which is used as a human dwelling, or for the custody of property. The penalty for this more serious offense is imprisonment of up to seven years, and also a fine.
 

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U on the other hand has been brain-washed so much by 'losers' that are always 'whining' about our Singapore that u don't even realise how lucky u are to be in our 'little Red Dot'!:rolleyes:
 

guavatree

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U on the other hand has been brain-washed so much by 'losers' that are always 'whining' about our Singapore that u don't even realise how lucky u are to be in our 'little Red Dot'!:rolleyes:

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, hypocrite, deceiver, all rolled into one!

sucking PAP lanjiaos is lucky to you!

LOL
 

Hope

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Re: old fart bapok bob sim's criminal achivements!

old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, hypocrite, deceiver, all rolled into one!


Gay illicit activities:

Penal Code Section 377A states, “Any male person who, in public or private, commits, or abets the commission of, or procures or attempts to procure the commission by any male person of, any act of gross indecency with another male person, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years.”

Cheating:

Whoever, by deceiving any person, fraudulently or dishonestly induces the person so deceived to deliver any property to any person, or to consent that any person shall retain any property, or intentionally induces the person so deceived to do or omit to do anything which he or she would not do or omit if he or she were not so deceived, and which act or omission causes or is likely to cause damage or harm to that person in body, mind, reputation or property, is said to "cheat". For example, A cheats if he intentionally deceives Z into a belief that A means to repay any money that Z may lend to him when A does not intend to repay it, and thereby dishonestly induces Z to lend him money. Cheating is punished with imprisonment of up to one year, or a fine, or both.

Father bashing:

Voluntarily causing hurt – A person causes hurt when he or she causes bodily pain, disease or infirmity to any person. Whoever does any act with the intention of causing hurt to any person, or with the knowledge that he is likely to cause hurt to any person, and does cause hurt to any person, voluntarily causes hurt. The penalty for voluntarily causing hurt is imprisonment of up to one year, or a fine of up to S$1,000, or both.

Theft of Temple Funds:

Theft is committed when a person, intending to take dishonestly any movable property out of the possession of any person without that person’s consent, moves that property in order to effect the taking. The penalty for theft is imprisonment of up to three years, or a fine, or both. It is more common, however, for offenders to be charged with committing theft in a building, tent or vessel, which is used as a human dwelling, or for the custody of property. The penalty for this more serious offense is imprisonment of up to seven years, and also a fine.
Funny he does not know that most of the opposition are made bankrupty.

How much PAP paid him?he did not declare.

If he said:I paid for myself and refused any peanuts fr PAP,I would have respected.
 
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