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graduates give middle finger to alma mater

madmansg

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graduates think to themselves serve NS for 2 fucking long years still want me to donate to NUS , SMU or NTU ? FUCK YOU OK !

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special report
Give to varsity? No, thanks
Few alumni moved by their alma mater's appeals
By By Amelia Tan

CAROLINE CHIA/THE STRAITS TIMES PHOTO ILLUSTRATION
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ONCE a year, Mr Aaron Ng, a National University of Singapore (NUS) graduate, gets an e-mail appeal or a brochure asking him to donate to his alma mater.

The appeals all wind up in the same place - the bin, virtual or otherwise.

Money league
Stanford University: US$832.35 million
Harvard University: US$613.99 million
University of Southern California: US$469.65 million
Johns Hopkins University: US$430.46 million
Columbia University: US$423.85 million
Cornell University: US$406.93 million
University of Pennsylvania: US$392.42 million
Yale University: US$391.32 million
Duke University: US$372.33 million
University of California, Los Angeles: US$364.78 million
Source: Council for Aid to Education
THE REAL PICTURE

'Everyone looks at Harvard and Princeton's alumni participation rates and aspires to get there. But that is not the reality for most institutions.'
Ms Krista Slade, executive director of the Council for Advancement and Support for Education Asia-Pacific

GRATEFUL FOR EXPERIENCE
'I donated as I want to enable my juniors to experience these opportunities too.'
Miss Liew Laura-Lynn, 23, NTU materials science and engineering graduate. She was thankful for the opportunities she received, including working at Nokia in Germany for six months as part of the university's industrial attachment programme.

UNIS MUST STAY IN TOUCH
'Universities have to add value to their alumni's lives when they are studying and after they graduate. If they do so, a sense of belonging and gratitude will be there and they will be willing to donate.'
Mr Collin Tseng-Liu, LSE Alumni Association of Singapore president

IT'S ONLY A SCHOOL TO ME
'The sense of attachment to NUS just isn't there.'
Miss Melissa Pang, 24, who graduated from NUS last year with a political science degree
Thousands of alumni from the three universities here feel the same way, despite years of efforts to get them to donate to their former schools.

Just 2.5 per cent of NUS alumni - or 4,048 out of 162,000 ex-students - donated this financial year. At Nanyang Technological University (NTU), about 4.7 per cent - or 4,185 out of 88,200 - donated during the same period.

The lone bright spot: Singapore Management University (SMU), which saw about half of this year's graduating class giving something back.

But while the percentage of SMU donors is high, the actual amount raised was less so: $13,000. About 560 out of 1,167 graduating students donated: This works out to an average donation of about $23.

The amounts donated by NUS and NTU alumni were slightly more impressive: $5 million and $1.32 million, respectively.

The numbers pale in comparison with universities in the United States, on which alumni donation drives here are modelled. The average alumni participation rate there last year was 11.7 per cent. At the better schools, it is much higher.

Close to half the alumni of Harvard and Stanford donated to their schools last year, contributing US$188.16 million (S$266 million) and US$284.59 million, respectively.

Why such a big difference in donations? Quite apart from the number of former students - US universities are much older and thus have bigger alumni pools to draw from - it is a question of attitude.

Miss Melissa Pang, 24, who graduated in political science from NUS last year, spoke for many when she said: 'The sense of attachment to NUS just isn't there.'

University alumni interviewed by The Straits Times said their alma mater do not make them feel like they matter - until it comes time to raise funds.

Mr Ng, 26, gave the example of a rise in fees when he was an undergraduate: 'It was not nice to find out about a school fee increase by reading the newspapers in the morning. We want to be consulted before decisions are made.'

Many also do not have fond memories of their university years. They say the days went by in a blur of faces and papers, and few bonds to people and place were formed.

Said Mr Gavin Liow, 25, who graduated in June from NTU's Wee Kim Wee School of Communication and Information: 'When I think of NTU, all I remember are the crowded buses and crowded canteens.'

Social events at local universities here are practically non-existent. By contrast, many universities in the West have a social calendar dotted with sporting events, formal dinners every term and parties organised by fraternities and sororities.

The difference in university education here and abroad is exemplified by the way adults in Singapore and the West refer to it: Ask an American which school he is from, and he is likely to tell you he graduated from, say, the University of North Carolina.

Ask a Singaporean the same question, and the answer that comes back is more likely to be 'ACS', 'SJI' or 'RI'.

Secondary schools, it seems, form the kind of bonds with their students that the universities here can only dream about.

Anglo-Chinese School (Independent) and St Joseph's Institution (SJI), for example, have managed to raise large sums from their alumni over the years. ACS (Independent) has raised about $10 million from its donation drives over the past four years.

SJI principal Benjamin Lui said bonds are formed more easily when students are in secondary school as they spend long periods of time together in class, at co-curricular activities and other school events.

'When people go to university, their main goal is to chase that degree and graduate. Many won't want to take the time off to socialise,' he added.

ACS (Independent) principal Ong Teck Chin added: 'Education at the universities tends to be more impersonal, and interaction does not last long.'

He added that parents of alumni are a large source of donations and bonds with them are cultivated by involving them in activities in the school.

Universities have tried to create some bonds, but their efforts, such as talks by development officers urging students to donate, have been criticised as 'superficial' and a 'hard-sell'.

Alumni feel the attempt to forge a sense of belonging is done only when they are about to graduate, in order to boost graduation class giving rates.

They are beseeched by development officers and classmates who have been appointed to raise funds to remember the good times they have had in the past three or four years.

Students are also mailed numerous brochures extolling the benefits - 'when you give, you receive' - of alumni giving.

Donating students are also told that their names will be flashed on plasma TV screens during convocation week.

Said Mr Liow, the NTU graduate: 'If the university wants us to donate, the administration should try to inculcate the school spirit in us by making our university experience memorable. But they are not doing so. All they are doing is asking us for money.'

Though such sentiments are the prevalent ones, there are signs that things are changing - slowly.

NTU materials science and engineering graduate Liew Laura- Lynn, 23, for instance, was moved by the appeals.

She donated to her faculty when she graduated in June this year as she was thankful for the opportunities she received.

One memorable experience she had was working at Nokia in Germany for six months last year as part of the university's industrial attachment programme.

She said: 'I donated as I want to enable my juniors to experience these opportunities too.'

Buoyed by such examples, universities are putting the pedal to the metal. Extensive campaigns to get current students and alumni to donate are being run.

Development offices have produced brochures, booklets, letters and e-mail appeals to encourage donations from alumni and their parents, for example.

Explaining the rationale for these extensive campaigns, the director of NTU's development office, Ms Marina Tan Harper, said: 'In the professional world of fund-raising, you cannot leave donations to chance...You have to solicit donors and call them up.'

NTU has decided to concentrate its efforts on encouraging each graduating class since 2005 to give back to the school and thus build a base of alumni who will continue to do so.

The results of this drive have been promising: 36 per cent of the Class of 2008 donated, almost five times more than the 8 per cent of the Class of 2005.

Slowly, participation rates are rising. NTU's current alumni participation rate of 4.7 per cent, for instance, compares to 0.2 per cent just three years ago.

NUS' current 2.5 per cent participation rate, meanwhile, is a step up from the 0.5 per cent three years ago.

To Ms Krista Slade, executive director of the Council for Advancement and Support for Education (Case) Asia-Pacific, a Washington-based organisation, that counts as good progress.

'Everyone looks at Harvard and Princeton's alumni participation rates and aspires to get there. But that is not the reality for most institutions,' she said.

'Singapore has made great progress in a short period of time...We will see the real effects in the generations to come. This is not a short-term activity.'

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southwest

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Ask an American which school he is from, and he is likely to tell you he graduated from, say, the University of North Carolina.

Depends on where you ask! Not all Americans had the luxury of going to college [university]
 

borom

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The ST report did not mention that many of the older graduates from the local U are now jobless-their jobs being taken over by FT.The FT will be giving their donations to their schools in China,India,Philippines ect2.
The younger graduates will remember places in faculties, jobs, scholarships given to FT.
With such memories, will they donate?
Just wondering, is it better to invest those billions in Citibank,Merrill Lynch,UBS ect2- or just a small fraction of it in our educational instituitions and give free educatiuon to all.
 

po2wq

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dun even bother to find out ze root prob n solve it ... oni interested 2 get money ... n play wif sum figures n their kpi ...
 
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makapaaa

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So that they can have more money to give free scholarships to FTrash? They must be KIDDING!
 

shOUTloud

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why should I give back to NUS when I get shit service from them? anyway, the endowment fund ends up paying for the fat salaries of ang moh lecturers, most of whom are farked up. Unfortunately I was just a dumb fuck during my university days to recognise their low stds.
 

Gillette

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So that they can have more money to give free scholarships to FTrash? They must be KIDDING!

I got a similar call some time ago from a young lady who claimed to be a first year student. I asked why should I support a university that is giving free scholarships to foreigners instead of helping Singaporeans; and these foreigners will be taking away jobs from Singaporeans, including hers. She acknowledged that and gave up trying to convince me to donate.
 

BlueCat

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they should get those ministers who are alma mater to donate.
i understand how some feel about it.
 

borom

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Which talented MP went to local U?

Your statement imply all those who go local U not talented.

Just to list some who went to local U
1. Lee Kuan Yew (Raffles College then Cambridge )
2. Goh Chok Tong (SU then Williams College).
3. Lee Wei Ling (SU Medicine)
4. Ho Kwon Pin (SU Arts)

I'm sure there are more, please fell free to add to the list of untalented people who go to local U.
 

peter_lee_1969

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Local Uni are fcking rich. The faculty members changed and upgrade the desktop every year, now is at least 21inch LCD monitor. and they BUY new laptop every year with the research funds.

Do not believe that local u says they are poor, not enough money, all bull***t

They have the money but DO NOT wish to use it on subsidising poor sudents. they rather use the money to pamper the faculty unnneccsary overseas conference several times a year (do you know that a newly join assistant professor can clock enough mileage for Krisflyer Gold membership in 1 year!).

Every year, there will be budget surplus and they use it to buy posh and expensive office chairs, gadgets for themselves (and also for their own family usage) too. then they will submit an application for an even bigger budget for the next year, which also indirectly cause the fee to go up.

almost all the faculty members are millionaires from salary drawn.
 

tate

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Not all grads make big money. Some do and a lot of them do. But some don't.

For those who don't , donating big money to the alma mate is a problem. :(
 

madmansg

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Local Uni are fcking rich. The faculty members changed and upgrade the desktop every year, now is at least 21inch LCD monitor. and they BUY new laptop every year with the research funds.

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these ar neh FT then send the second hand but brand new computers back to their relatives in india. Our tax dollars all gone. Scholarships for FT , NS for Sgoreans.

NS is killing Sg.
 

peter_lee_1969

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these ar neh FT then send the second hand but brand new computers back to their relatives in india. Our tax dollars all gone. Scholarships for FT , NS for Sgoreans.

NS is killing Sg.
To be fair, not only arneh FT, even our true blue local Sg faculty members are enjoying such high life and privilege and they still kpkb that money not enough, they themselevs drive mercedes and bmw, feel inferior seeing others in bentlley and rolls royce. in fact local Uni has a majority of MY Chinese FT as faculty members.
 

madmansg

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THe singaporean faculty memabers are entited to free computers as they have served NS and many years of reservists.

But these chinaman and malaysian free loading parasites never serve NS but take advantages of singapore system. CSC only use stamps but these parastes send brand new used computers back to their relatives in china malaysia and india.
 

peter_lee_1969

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Again to be fair, they themselevs use the LATEST laptop purchased. but last year's laptop purchase is at their disposal. come on, in 5 yrs, he/she will have 5 laptop. come on, really need so many? for fcuk?

the worst is that they feel tat teaching is a chore.
 

angry_one

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To get alumni to part with their hard-earned money, the unis must make sure they have a rich memorable experience in their school days. Unlike real unis where students run the show, in sg unis, new rules and condescending treatment is often forced down students' throats. So don't expect them to give back a single cent.
 

shOUTloud

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we should spread the word aroudn about their obscene spending habits. I gave away money each year but NUS can get this amount from me .. $0.00
 
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