Understanding why Singaporeans accept importing cheap foreign workers policy...

nayr69sg · May 11, 2012

Their is so much argument about why Singapore should change the policy and restrict influx of cheap foreign workers.

Businesses hire cheap foreign workers to do work that few Singaporeans would do for that wage. It allows businesses to maximize profits, managers to sleep easier and have a better life.

Why is it so difficult to understand that many many Singaporeans have already accepted that as a way of life and the way to go forward?

If you cannot understand then you probably aren't one of those who hires a foreign domestic maid to wash your toilets, cook your meals, wash your clothes, iron your clothes, fold your clothes, mop the floors, send the kids to school, pick them up from the school bus, wash the car every morning, bathe the dog, feed the dog, walk the dog etc etc etc. All for a cheap cheap price of.....?

Same thing lah.

If Singaporeans really believe so much in what they complain then they will all refuse to hire cheap domestic foreign maids to do their dirty work for them.

Hire Singaporeans for that lah!

Leongsam · May 11, 2012

nayr69sg said:
If Singaporeans really believe so much in what they complain then they will all refuse to hire cheap domestic foreign maids to do their dirty work for them.

A few days ago, there was a thread where everyone was asking for minimum wages to be implemented in Singapore. I asked whether this should apply to maids as well. As you can guess, the answer was an emphatic NO!

They want to be paid top dollar but they certainly aren't willing to extend the same high wages philosophy to those they hire.

These sinkies are a bunch of f**$$#@ hypocrites. :rolleyes:

nayr69sg · May 11, 2012

If ever there was a clear indicator of whether things have changed in Singapore just look at the foreign domestic maids number. As long as that continues to increase, the more of the same Singapore we know will proliferate.

Cruxx · May 11, 2012

Leongsam said:
A few days ago, there was a thread where everyone was asking for minimum wages to be implemented in Singapore. I asked whether this should apply to maids as well. As you can guess, the answer was an emphatic NO!

They want to be paid top dollar but they certainly aren't willing to extend the same high wages philosophy to those they hire.

These sinkies are a bunch of f**$$#@ hypocrites.

Sinkies and their incoherent demands. Why are Singaporeans so dumb? :confused:

I_Hate_Pappies · May 11, 2012

The cows have came home long ago, you guys are still discussing about this wrong category of foreigners locals are TOO LAN with.

Quote from TS, "Their is so much argument about why Singapore should change the policy and restrict influx of cheap foreign workers."

Where you heard this arguement from?

I_Hate_Pappies · May 11, 2012

Leongsam said:
A few days ago, there was a thread where everyone was asking for minimum wages to be implemented in Singapore. I asked whether this should apply to maids as well. As you can guess, the answer was an emphatic NO!

They want to be paid top dollar but they certainly aren't willing to extend the same high wages philosophy to those they hire.

These sinkies are a bunch of f**$$#@ hypocrites.

No! The minimum wage for them should be determined by their respective countries manpower legislative.

Unrepented · May 11, 2012

Nice try.

nayr69sg said:
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Why is it so difficult to understand that many many Singaporeans have already accepted that as a way of life and the way to go forward?

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nayr69sg · May 11, 2012

Everytime someone argues that we should stop the influx of cheap foreign workers to Singapore, the reply should be yes we will start with cutting down on domestic maids.

Singaporeans can always hire local Singaporeans to help with domestic work.

More expensive? Same argument from the private sector businesses.

The lack of such replies tells me something. That almost everyone in Singapore is reliant on a maid to survive. How often have you heard the phrase, "cannot survive without maid"?

A country full of people who cannot survive without a maid.

Char_Azn · May 11, 2012

I_Hate_Pappies said:
The cows have came home long ago, you guys are still discussing about this wrong category of foreigners locals are TOO LAN with.

Quote from TS, "Their is so much argument about why Singapore should change the policy and restrict influx of cheap foreign workers."

Where you heard this arguement from?

Go to any forum and you will see a lot of complains about "low class FTs"

On the other end of the scale, the lower wage locals complain about FTs stealing their jobs and depressing wages. All these is a matter of perspective. U complain about those that directly affects U

I_Hate_Pappies · May 12, 2012

Char_Azn said:
Go to any forum and you will see a lot of complains about "low class FTs"

On the other end of the scale, the lower wage locals complain about FTs stealing their jobs and depressing wages. All these is a matter of perspective. U complain about those that directly affects U

I don't really visit other forums other than here n sister forum. My perception of cheap foreign workers in TS post is towards Domestic workers n Bangladesh workers. The FTs wages are not really low by the way.

Unrepented · May 12, 2012

Furthermore, their cost base is in their home country.

I_Hate_Pappies said:
I don't really visit other forums other than here n sister forum. My perception of cheap foreign workers in TS post is towards Domestic workers n Bangladesh workers. The FTs wages are not really low by the way.

johnny333 · May 12, 2012

nayr69sg said:
The lack of such replies tells me something. That almost everyone in Singapore is reliant on a maid to survive. How often have you heard the phrase, "cannot survive without maid"?

A country full of people who cannot survive without a maid.

The gov't of Spore will not allowed me to hire a maid. :(

Even if I was allowed to hire a maid I'm unwilling to pay the PAP taxes for the privilege :wink:

Zombie · May 12, 2012

our healthcare is costly, how about bringing in cheaper doctors from abroad?
someone may say there will be a drop in standard of service
I will ask him what about the FT bus drivers? isn't there a drop in standard of service?

our tranport cost is too high, how about bringing in oversea transport operators who are willing to lower the fares?
someone may say there will be an increase in congestion
I will ask him what about the human congestions we have everywhere?

there is no ending..

nayr69sg · May 12, 2012

Zombie said:
our healthcare is costly, how about bringing in cheaper doctors from abroad?
someone may say there will be a drop in standard of service
I will ask him what about the FT bus drivers? isn't there a drop in standard of service?

our tranport cost is too high, how about bringing in oversea transport operators who are willing to lower the fares?
someone may say there will be an increase in congestion
I will ask him what about the human congestions we have everywhere?

there is no ending..

Foreign doctors? Oh Singapore has already been doing that. I used to work with many of these foreign doctors. They are paid less than half of what a local doctor will cost.

In fact the situation got more serious such that SMC had to issue guidelines saying that no hospital department should have >50% of their doctors as foreigners.

As I had predicted this thread is pretty quiet because many Singaporeans have maids and will refuse to clean their own toilets.

Cruxx · May 12, 2012

migrant said:
I want to complain the low class ah neh ft that snatch My IT regional support engineer job.

Your avatar may be fat and ugly but I like your signature. :wink:

I_Hate_Pappies · May 12, 2012

nayr69sg said:
Foreign doctors? Oh Singapore has already been doing that. I used to work with many of these foreign doctors. They are paid less than half of what a local doctor will cost.

In fact the situation got more serious such that SMC had to issue guidelines saying that no hospital department should have >50% of their doctors as foreigners.

As I had predicted this thread is pretty quiet because many Singaporeans have maids and will refuse to clean their own toilets.

Your looking for fireworks in this thread with this flawed argument? I give you one.

FUCK YOUR MOTHER PHUA CHEE BYE:oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo::oIo:

Zombie · May 12, 2012

nayr69sg said:
In fact the situation got more serious such that SMC had to issue guidelines saying that no hospital department should have >50% of their doctors as foreigners.

i actually know about foreign doctors in hospitals, maybe you did not get the gist of the message, i intended to suggest flooding the local market with more foreign doctors to further lower the cost of healthcare which is still high... maybe I did not make it clear.. :o

most people do not want to see more foreign workers coming in, just like SMC does not want to see too many doctors as foreigners...if we measure all things by cost advantage, there should not be a quota guide.. that is my point..

the abuse of such quota system is another problem.. more seriously in SMEs

anyway, I do agree with you that sinkies got double standard with regards to maids......... but many people do not have a choice because of work pressure here... :biggrin:

nayr69sg · May 12, 2012

Zombie said:
anyway, I do agree with you that sinkies got double standard with regards to maids......... but many people do not have a choice because of work pressure here...

Yeah lor! NO CHOICE. Without maid many will die.

If I were PAP candidate I would tell the people.....WP say dowan to allow cheap foreign workers into Singapore. Want to institute minimum wage. Maybe $8/hr?

If WP become gahment, it means harder for you to have maid at home you know?

Maid work 24 hours, $8/hr = $192/day = $5760 a month! How many of us can afford? Even if pay half of that also cannot afford!

And you know these days life already so tough, NO MAID HOW TO SURVIVE?????

Be careful hor? Don't prey prey okey? Scali no more maid then you die! :eek:

Fook Seng · May 12, 2012

nayr69sg said:
Maid work 24 hours, $8/hr = $192/day = $5760 a month! How many of us can afford? Even if pay half of that also cannot afford!

That's what you think. 80% of the time when you are not around they go to sleep or talk to the neighbours. Yes maids are an essential part of the intelligence network covering the whole neighbourhood.

What I feel there should be difference in minimum salaries covering different categories of work - full time, part time etc

nayr69sg · May 12, 2012

Fook Seng said:
That's what you think. 80% of the time when you are not around they go to sleep or talk to the neighbours. Yes maids are an essential part of the intelligence network covering the whole neighbourhood.

What I feel there should be should difference minimum salaries covering different categories of work, full time, part time etc

So in your opinion maids are essential to Singapore? Without maids Singapore will not survive?

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