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Don't put the blame on PRs: (for high HDB Prices) Khaw

The_Hypocrite

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http://sg.news.yahoo.com/dont-put-blame-prs-khaw-021340200.html

Rising resale HDB flat prices should not be blamed on permanent residents (PRs), but on local private property owners - the buyers who pull up the stakes for the cash premium on flats, said Khaw Boon Wan, Minister for National Development.

Mr Khaw's statement was made in response to a query raised by Zaqy Mohamad, Member of Parliament for Choa Chu Kang GRC, as to whether the Housing Board would limit the sale of resale three-room and smaller flats to just lower-income Singaporeans.

Mr Zaqy argued that PRs are generally perceived as contributing to the rising prices of resale flats and the increasing amounts of cash premiums paid to sellers, known as the cash-over-valuation (COV).

According to Daniel Tan, a real estate agent from C&H Properties, sellers of four- to five-room resale units in Woodlands, Bedok and Ang Mo Kio could command COVs of between S$50,000 and S$80,000 in August last year.

When HDB raised the income ceiling for new flats and housing subsidies, Tan noted that these sellers lowered their expectations to under S$50,000.

By the third quarter of last year, median COVs ranged from S$27,900 to S$34,000.

"The data (is) quite distinct," noted Mr Khaw. "Typically, the PRs pay the lower COVs... among the groups, the higher COVs are often by private property owners or former private property owners... especially the enbloc owners or residents, probably with a lot of cash and still need a roof... they are the ones who bid up the COV."

Hence, he deemed that it is unfair to blame the higher resale prices on a particular group.

Affirming that home prices have shot up within the last two to three years, Mr Khaw asked for the public's patience, as he has been working for the market to "stabilise in due course". Related Stories:HDB launches 3923 new BTO flats91% of HDB flats not resold seven years onForeigner runs cheap hotel from new HDB flat
 

palden

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Blame MBT for selling HDB at such a huge profit margin. Blame MBT for slacking on the job ignoring the increased in demand for housing. So now Cow better wake up and do his million dollars job.

http://sg.news.yahoo.com/dont-put-blame-prs-khaw-021340200.html

Rising resale HDB flat prices should not be blamed on permanent residents (PRs), but on local private property owners - the buyers who pull up the stakes for the cash premium on flats, said Khaw Boon Wan, Minister for National Development.

Mr Khaw's statement was made in response to a query raised by Zaqy Mohamad, Member of Parliament for Choa Chu Kang GRC, as to whether the Housing Board would limit the sale of resale three-room and smaller flats to just lower-income Singaporeans.

Mr Zaqy argued that PRs are generally perceived as contributing to the rising prices of resale flats and the increasing amounts of cash premiums paid to sellers, known as the cash-over-valuation (COV).

According to Daniel Tan, a real estate agent from C&H Properties, sellers of four- to five-room resale units in Woodlands, Bedok and Ang Mo Kio could command COVs of between S$50,000 and S$80,000 in August last year.

When HDB raised the income ceiling for new flats and housing subsidies, Tan noted that these sellers lowered their expectations to under S$50,000.

By the third quarter of last year, median COVs ranged from S$27,900 to S$34,000.

"The data (is) quite distinct," noted Mr Khaw. "Typically, the PRs pay the lower COVs... among the groups, the higher COVs are often by private property owners or former private property owners... especially the enbloc owners or residents, probably with a lot of cash and still need a roof... they are the ones who bid up the COV."

Hence, he deemed that it is unfair to blame the higher resale prices on a particular group.

Affirming that home prices have shot up within the last two to three years, Mr Khaw asked for the public's patience, as he has been working for the market to "stabilise in due course". Related Stories:HDB launches 3923 new BTO flats91% of HDB flats not resold seven years onForeigner runs cheap hotel from new HDB flat
 

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... Rising resale HDB flat prices should not be blamed on permanent residents (PRs), but on local private property owners - the buyers who pull up the stakes for the cash premium on flats, said Khaw Boon Wan, Minister for National Development ...
den u go n ban cov lor! ... :rolleyes:
 

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Blame on gov for the year 2005~2008 less than 10k unit were built.
Also blame the buyer willing to pay COV. As long there is COV price will increase.
Before or 5 year ago many are willing to sell below valuation.
 

vamjok

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their planning fucked up then come up with theory its our fault. really lan jiao wei they all
 

Ramseth

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their planning fucked up then come up with theory its our fault. really lan jiao wei they all

Son, a bit of elementary maths and econs. 85% of Singapore residentials are HDB, 15% private. How can 15% drive up the prices of 85%? But even the other way around, the 85% couldn't drive up their own prices to in turn drive up private prices except only when there's induced demand who can afford to drive prices up is introduced. Why would they do that? Because the land owners are either government, themselves or their friends being property developers.
 
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vamjok

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Son, a bit of elementary maths and econs. 85% of Singapore residentials are HDB, 15% private. How can 15% drive up the prices of 85%? But even the other way around, the 85% couldn't drive up their own prices to in turn drive up private prices except only when there's induced demand who can afford to drive prices up is introduced. Why would they do that? Because the land owners are either government, themselves or their friends being property developers.

dad, not in their defense but the wealth distribution in Sg is really greatly skewed towards the top 5 percent. that the exact reason why it disgusted me when they pegged their salary towards the top few earners. But then again...those people belongs to another class, buying a HDB flat was most likely never an option to them. So in a sense the theory of blaming the top 15 percent for driving our property market is seriously flawed.
 

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This Penang boy is a real Tai Chi Master :p
You cannot blame him or PRs for the rising price of pigeon-holes.
In short Penang boy is saying : Blame Shortie Mah
:biggrin:
 
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vamjok

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this is like saying we as adults fighting toys with a 5 year old kids. why would those in the top 15 percent bothered buying HDB when they can easily afford private housing?
 

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den u go n ban cov lor! ... :rolleyes:

SOB try to Cherry pick on examples

There's a real case of SG family being outbid on COV by 2 FT PR Families, as the 2 PR families try to out bid each other, the SG family gave up.

In this case it is 100% PR driving up the COV, can't imagine we actually pay a daft millions to come up with crap reason to cover up his party's policy screwup.
 
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