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    SDP to launch Malay policy paper

    No, you already said that segregation was racist. And I already pointed out to you that when people are given their own freedom to mix around, the races aren't going to mix around. Birds of a feather always flock together. The absence of a desegregation policy is ipso facto a segregation policy...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    Too premature is bullshit. Two years have passed since GE2011. Or put it another way, 22 years have passed since Low Thia Khiang entered parliament. The marathon doesn't end when you take over parliament. Taking over parliament is the starting point of the marathon. Before you run the marathon...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    I mean, read what I was saying earlier. I am complaining that I don't know about that vision. Which means I have two questions. 1. Do they even have a vision? 2. Maybe they have a vision and they're not communicating it, not sharing it with us. I'm not taking kindly to the secrecy at all. You...
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    SDP to launch Malay policy paper

    No, I'm not a kid. I was born before the speak Mandarin campaign. Or maybe anybody who doesn't see things your way wasn't born yet. You have basically accepted the logic that you have to force people of different races to mix in order to make them get along with each other. What you're actually...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    No, I understand that. That's OK. But my question is: why is it that up till now I am still not having a clear picture of how the WP is going to run Singapore when they take over parliament. How is that even possible?
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    Limpeh has complained about the SDP and the white scums in the past. Today is "let's bash WP day" for me. And it's even better, more informative for me, since there are so many passionate WP supporters around here.
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    I've already explained to you the context where I said that the levels don't really matter. What you're looking for is a signal. People from the outer circles give a weaker signal, people from the inner circles give a stronger signal. Tan Jee Say's signal is almost nothing compared to the inner...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    I could have repeated myself and defined the following concentric circles: 1. Low Thia Khiang / Sylvia Lim 2. Central Exec committee 3. Cadres 4. Card carrying members 5. volunteers 6. Voters 7. People generally sympathetic to the opposition. But it doesn't really matter. Because at the end...
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    SDP to launch Malay policy paper

    It's very simple. We could go into debating a lot of things but it's very simple for me to just say that I'm not a libertarian. No, the south have two ethnic enclaves. Black and white. People naturally separate out from each other. Enclaves will always form so long as you allow people to do...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    No. I was answering to the guy who said that the WP is a personality driven organisation. Then I'd be surprised that the WP people would be saying things (ie alliance with other parties led by WP) that contradict the official position. Anyway since we're on that topic, there are very...
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    SDP to launch Malay policy paper

    As long as they don't descend into slums and hell-holes of crime and drugs. Two of the places you mentioned - the Bronx and Queens. Ever been there lately? The old town plan of Singapore was designed as a series of enclaves, and we already have the enclaves in the city centre. Maybe it's...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    That's the funny thing about Chiam See Tong. For me the Ben Pwee affair was very badly handled. You have a stroke, you probably will never be MP again, and you still aren't thinking about handing your party over to the next guy? What the hell was CST thinking. And now, he's got to make a deal...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    Some of these things are true, but: WP: I see plenty of WP ppl here saying things that I wouldn't have expected coming out from LTK's mouth. Unless those things are what LTK really says in private. SDP: CSJ has not stood for elections in 10 years. How many of the old Holland Bukit Timah...
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    SDP to launch Malay policy paper

    There are a lot of interesting questions all around. Some things, I see as definitely racist. All the matas are Malay, the infantry is Malay, the support arms are non-Malay. Immigration policy is tilted against Malay. HDB quotas - I'm not so sure. I see it as a desegregation policy, where...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    It's not important to talk about it now. Because everybody will have their reasons, everybody will talk until the cows come home. It's pretty useless. What's really important is to put your money where your mouth is.
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    Yes, but what's happened now? Remember that NSP, before they broke away from the SDA, was the junior partner in the SDA. Today you wouldn't really say that the NSP is a smaller party than the SPP? Sure, the NSP was boosted by people from the Refugee Party, but the RP almost became part of the...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    If it wasn't so important for me to maintain my anonymity I would have asked you to put down a bet of $50.
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    Nice of you to actually reply this time instead of resorting to petty little shit like infractions. The exact same thing has also been said about multi-party democracies, lest we forget.
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    That is correct but what Tanwahp was saying is that WP would countenance a coalition where they are the senior partner and the other parties are the junior partner. Well, how about, "the white scums were in power when Singapore was being built up"? Sounds better than "the blue scums were in...
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    Breaking: Tan Jee Say & Ang Yong Guan to join SPP

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lib%E2%80%93Lab_pact#21st_century Not true to say that it was very remote. It didn't happen, but Lib Lab had happened before, and Liberal Democrats are more closer politically to Labour than Conservatives. Gordon Brown was interested in pursuing it.
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