Aegean Paradise -- Cruise / Casino Ship @ New Century Tours Corporation Pte Ltd
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Everyday 500 punters go AP , AP will use the trick to con 450 punters , so got 50 punters escape , next day AP will con another 450 new punters ,30 the same escape , another next day AP will con another 450 punters , those 30 escaped earlier will get into net this time, when the times go on and on , non of the punter will escape , it is just a matter of time , no one win in long run.
The theorem or concept behind your explaination beautifully summed up Fatty 's great scam over the years onboard his "pirate" so called cruise ships but those addicted still jump into it sadly.
The online called it the Fatty 's Trap SYSTEM :
Fatty’s Trap is a system where a casino lets some punters win just enough to feel confident, while slowly tightening the odds until every last one falls. It’s not a question of “if” — only “when.”
Here is a chart to illustrate Fatty's Trap System ,
Fatty's Trap wow nice award for Fattso
for the newbies to baccarat table games or any other table games offers by Fatty
the Scams work both ways .
the casino can churns out beautiful winning streaks and can also churns out
the opposite to confuse and scam you of your money . - Punters please beware !
Another trick I realised, when the roulette table got ppl keep winning after few hands, then the dealer will spin the ball fly out the wheel , to make it respin sure open the number less ppl bet, very suspicious.Fatty's Trap wow nice award for Fattso
for the newbies to baccarat table games or any other table games offers by Fatty
the Scams work both ways .
the casino can churns out beautiful winning streaks and can also churns out
the opposite to confuse and scam you of your money . - Punters please beware !
AhBoy123 , yours is an interesting observation ,
In a properly regulated casino (like those licensed in Singapore or reputable jurisdictions), the roulette wheel and ball spin are supposed to be purely random, and strict controls exist to ensure fairness. Dealers are trained to spin the ball and wheel at varying speeds, but they are not allowed to deliberately influence where the ball lands — doing so would be cheating and a serious violation.
However, in unregulated casinos, especially on some offshore cruise ships or in shady backroom setups, manipulation can and does happen, though it’s not always easy to prove.
What you describe — the dealer intentionally causing the ball to fly off the wheel to force a re-spin — is plausible if:
This is a classic low-level manipulation tactic in unregulated or poorly monitored venues. A skilled dealer could “accidentally” cause a re-spin — and time it to break a streak that’s too favourable for players.
Roulette outcomes are determined by:
A very skilled croupier could influence the ball by:
Causing a “fly out” for a re-spin is crude but possible if management looks the other way.
If you notice:
…it’s a red flag the game may not be fair.
On a cruise ship, regulation can be murky. Some are licensed under weaker offshore jurisdictions and oversight is lax.
In a properly regulated casino (like those licensed in Singapore or reputable jurisdictions), the roulette wheel and ball spin are supposed to be purely random, and strict controls exist to ensure fairness. Dealers are trained to spin the ball and wheel at varying speeds, but they are not allowed to deliberately influence where the ball lands — doing so would be cheating and a serious violation.
However, in unregulated casinos, especially on some offshore cruise ships or in shady backroom setups, manipulation can and does happen, though it’s not always easy to prove.
What you describe — the dealer intentionally causing the ball to fly off the wheel to force a re-spin — is plausible if:
- They want to redo the spin when too many people bet heavily on certain numbers or sections.
- They hope to change the outcome to favour the house.
This is a classic low-level manipulation tactic in unregulated or poorly monitored venues. A skilled dealer could “accidentally” cause a re-spin — and time it to break a streak that’s too favourable for players.
Roulette outcomes are determined by:
- Wheel speed
- Ball speed
- Where the dealer drops/releases the ball
- Any slight imperfections in the wheel or ball track
A very skilled croupier could influence the ball by:
- Controlling the release point
- Adjusting spin strength
- Using subtle “dealer signature” techniques (though this is usually used by advantage players, not the house)
Causing a “fly out” for a re-spin is crude but possible if management looks the other way.
If you notice:
- Frequent re-spins when the table is hot for players.
- Patterns of the ball flying out “accidentally.”
- Dealers who look stressed when players win too much.
…it’s a red flag the game may not be fair.
On a cruise ship, regulation can be murky. Some are licensed under weaker offshore jurisdictions and oversight is lax.
- If you suspect manipulation, stop playing. The odds are bad enough without the house cheating.
- Play only in properly regulated casinos.
- On cruise ships, assume the house rules all — they own the wheel, the ball, and the dealer.
Alright — let’s go deeper. Here’s a clear look at real-world tricks some unregulated casinos (like shady cruise ship tables, underground rooms, or dodgy overseas joints) might use to tilt games like Roulette unfairly:
Biased Wheels
Magnetic Ball Trick
Dealer Signature
Forced Re-spins
Late Bets or No-Bets
False Payouts
Camera Monitoring
Collusion
Frequent re-spins when the table is hot.
Claims of “misplaced bets” or payout arguments.
Dealers allowing late bets for some players.
Oddly consistent small “house wins” when bets cluster.
Unlicensed venue or a place that discourages you from watching closely.
Stick to regulated casinos in trusted jurisdictions.
Watch the wheel for bias if you play often.
Don’t get lured by “too good to be true” private games.
If you see suspicious re-spins or rule bending — cash out and walk away.
Biased Wheels
- An old or intentionally damaged wheel might have tiny defects.
- These can cause the ball to drop into certain sectors more often.
- The house can exploit this if they know the “bias” — punters do not.
Magnetic Ball Trick
- Rare, but there are stories of metal-core balls and hidden electromagnets.
- The dealer or pit boss can trigger subtle magnets under the wheel to “pull” the ball to certain numbers or sectors.
- More plausible in low-regulation settings.
Dealer Signature
- Some skilled croupiers can spin the wheel and ball with precise speed to roughly land within a certain section.
- It’s not 100% predictable, but over many spins it can influence outcomes.
- In shady setups, they might exploit this to avoid “hot” sections or repeat winners.
Forced Re-spins
- Like you described: if too many bets stack on a cluster, the dealer might “accidentally” knock the ball out.
- A re-spin resets the odds for the house.
Late Bets or No-Bets
- In fair casinos, you must bet before “no more bets” is called.
- Some shady dealers might:
- Accept late bets for insiders after the ball is near stopping.
- Refuse legit bets if they’re too “lucky.”
- Confiscate bets claiming “too late” after seeing the ball land.
False Payouts
- In unregulated places, dishonest dealers may claim you placed your chip wrong, or move chips slightly to argue it wasn’t on a winning number.
- They rely on confusion — especially if the table is busy.
Camera Monitoring
- In high-tech cheating, some illegal operations use hidden cameras to track wheel speed and ball speed, feeding that to someone who bets just in time.
Collusion
- Sometimes the casino teams up with certain players to “milk” other players — so you think you’re winning with them but the house and the “winner” share profits.
Frequent re-spins when the table is hot. Claims of “misplaced bets” or payout arguments. Dealers allowing late bets for some players. Oddly consistent small “house wins” when bets cluster. Unlicensed venue or a place that discourages you from watching closely.
Stick to regulated casinos in trusted jurisdictions. Watch the wheel for bias if you play often. Don’t get lured by “too good to be true” private games. If you see suspicious re-spins or rule bending — cash out and walk away.Similar threads
