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aurvandil

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He was trying maranatha (Lord Come !) meditation to try and find some peace. Till now, it is not certain if he managed to come to faith before he passed. This was unlike Ng Teng Fong who came to faith on his deathbed. To Christians, that story is a testament of the power of God to help a rich man who lived a sinful life to go through the eye of a needle. The lasting changes to Far East Organization to this day is witness to how powerful the event was.

Father only looked to God in the last 2 years of his life and funnily it brought him back to walking distance from his one time childhood of one time - Holy Family at Katong. Alas he could not walk.

Son and daughter-only god they know is power.
 
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borom

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.......judgement will come after their death.....They will learn what it is to be looked down upon much like in the way they look down on the ah nehs, ah tiongs and pinoys who come to Singapore to work.
I agree on karma but its the ah nehs,ah tiongs and pinoys who are looking down on us NOW.
They must be wondering how locals study like crazy , goes for tuition, serve NS ect2 and yet lose out their jobs to foreigners from these 3 countries. Even more shocking is to see the number of old locals scrapping a living as cleaners, dishwashers, cardboard collectors and security guards while the ministers are the highest paid in the world with the perks discussed in this very thread
 

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He was trying maranatha (Lord Come !) meditation to try and find some peace. Till now, it is not certain if he managed to come to faith before he passed. This was unlike Ng Teng Fong who came to faith on his deathbed. To Christians, that story is a testament of the power of God to help a rich man who lived a sinful life to go through the eye of a needle. The lasting changes to Far East Organization to this day is witness to how powerful the event was.

LOL I could tell blinkered sinkie christians like you were praying hard to see 'gone home with the lord' below LKY's photo. Alas, it didn't happen. Huge disappointment eh?

Power of god?? LOL. While their father was dying, unfillial children of ng teng fong were only interested in hijacking his father's achievements to their god. Puke! Dorothy" Our company's success is founded on christian principles". Puke.Hello! It's your daddy!

If your god is so powerful why the need to force convert a helpless, dying man? Where's his 'power' to convert him when his brilliant brain was still functioning, helping him make his billions?

Same thing happened to LKY's father, and the hands of his brother. You could feel his anger as he recounted the story. Do you SERIOUSLY think that LKY would somehow convert himself, even in his senile dying days, to believe in your god? LOL.

To kill your fantasy once and for all...read this snippet from a very old LKY's conversation with old friend Helmut Schmidt ..

Schmidt: When did you actually become Confucian?


Lee: I have already asked myself this question too. I think I was educated as a Confucian. Concerning family and values. There is a Chinese proverb which goes like this: If you care for yourself, you care for your family; if you are loyal to the Emperor, the country will be successful. This means, first of all, that you need to care for yourself and be a gentleman. This is a basic need. Every individual should try to be a gentleman.


Schmidt: I was raised as a Christian and, in the end, I believe in nothing.


Lee: Well, Europeans are different from the Americans. Americans are still religious...


Schmidt: Terrible! In such a naive way!


Lee: ...and they think evolution and Darwinism are nonsense, that the world was created by God.


The only thing missing is a "LOL" to close his sentence! <<KISS MY ASS!!>>:rolleyes:

Full transcript here..

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...o-old-friends-lee-kuan-yew-and-helmut-schmidt
 

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To kill your fantasy once and for all...read this snippet from a very old LKY's conversation with old friend Helmut Schmidt ..

Schmidt: When did you actually become Confucian?


Lee: I have already asked myself this question too. I think I was educated as a Confucian. Concerning family and values. There is a Chinese proverb which goes like this: If you care for yourself, you care for your family; if you are loyal to the Emperor, the country will be successful. This means, first of all, that you need to care for yourself and be a gentleman. This is a basic need. Every individual should try to be a gentleman.


Schmidt: I was raised as a Christian and, in the end, I believe in nothing.


Lee: Well, Europeans are different from the Americans. Americans are still religious...


Schmidt: Terrible! In such a naive way!


Lee: ...and they think evolution and Darwinism are nonsense, that the world was created by God.


The only thing missing is a "LOL" to close his sentence! <<KISS MY ASS!!>>:rolleyes:

Full transcript here..

http://www.straitstimes.com/singapo...o-old-friends-lee-kuan-yew-and-helmut-schmidt

U do know that Schmidt was a Nazi, right? He was a Scharfuhrer in the Hitler Youth and served on the Russian front as well as in the Battle of the Bulge. I suppose that is why Old Fart found him appealing as a friend. One old Nazi having a conversation with another Old Nazi (of the Asian Pursuasion). I wonder if after this conversation. Helmut muttered under his breathe, "you yellow chink Untermensch would have been next after we fix the Jews".
 

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U do know that Schmidt was a Nazi, right? He was a Scharfuhrer in the Hitler Youth and served on the Russian front as well as in the Battle of the Bulge. I suppose that is why Old Fart found him appealing as a friend. One old Nazi having a conversation with another Old Nazi (of the Asian Pursuasion). I wonder if after this conversation. Helmut muttered under his breathe, "you yellow chink Untermensch would have been next after we fix the Jews".

I think this Nazi did some background research and discovered that LKY had ties with their Axis alliance partner Japan during WWII.

So LKY considered brudder...
 

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I think this Nazi did some background research and discovered that LKY had ties with their Axis alliance partner Japan during WWII.

So LKY considered brudder...

Hahahahah, yes, they were Axis Power allies. One commit genocide on the Jews, the other commit Genocide on the Chinese. sama sama.
 

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It is more like the other way around.

When you are young, rich and powerful, most people see very little need for God. It is only when they are old and dying that people suddenly find a need for God. They then go off in a desperate search for him.You will be surprised at the number of people who spend their whole lives mocking Christians who also go on this search when there is no more hope left in this world.

NTF was lucky because he found God just before he died. LKY does not look like he was so lucky. I personally do not think LKY managed to accept Jesus before he died.

Death is a powerful leveller. No matter how great LKY was in life, he is now the same as the security guard uncle and hawker centre cleaning auntie who died unknown and unremembered.

If your god is so powerful why the need to force convert a helpless, dying man? Where's his 'power' to convert him when his brilliant brain was still functioning, helping him make his billions?
 
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U do know that Schmidt was a Nazi, right? He was a Scharfuhrer in the Hitler Youth and served on the Russian front as well as in the Battle of the Bulge. I suppose that is why Old Fart found him appealing as a friend. One old Nazi having a conversation with another Old Nazi (of the Asian Pursuasion). I wonder if after this conversation. Helmut muttered under his breathe, "you yellow chink Untermensch would have been next after we fix the Jews".
Old fart was a Nazi, literally, in orientation and deed. He was also the only post-war politician to formulate national policies based on discredited eugenics.

Compare the PAP flag:
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And the 'flash and circle' symbol used by the British Union of Fascists founded by Oswald Mosley in 1932:
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LOL at all the stupid childish comments by "two bit key board sinkies warriors" who suddenly find themselves fit to pontificate on LKY and helmut schmidt. " key board sinkies warriors" whom have never achieved anything great in their measly life, who dare not protest in public when LKY was alive and now suddenly found themselves fit to comment on others fate. How pathetic !!!! The sheer arrogance and childishness of their comments make me laugh.
How stupid can they get. What does LKY's past or helmut schimdt nazi past have to do with their atheist beliefs?? none or in fact they more qualified to comment on the existence of "god" having seen untold sufferings and killings in the WW2 than these useless arrogant loudmouth key board warriors here whose parents weren't even born when sinkieland achieved independence. Its is precisely they have seen the worst in humans to know the beliefs in a god is nothing but an illusory attempt by their subconscious minds to exonerate their guilt feelings. nothing more( oh so convenient that all sins are forgiven instantly by just a cahnge in belief. hahhah so how so convenient like some quick get rich ponzi scheme), just like psychological masturbation(self misguided beliefs to feel good propounded by almost all religions who talk crap aboutv tehb afterlife when they could do nothing positive about the current life or world).
No wonder LKY does not reveal his private thoughts except that he is agnostic and was angry at his brother for covertly converting his father at the dying bed..
Go to hospitals and you see believers and on believers all dying the same death and suffering the same. You don't see doctors giving preferential treatments just because of someone's beliefs eg "oh he is a christian so he would receive less pain killers and antibiotics for he is protected????"" hahhah what nonsense.simple logic that Xtians cannot answer!!!! in fact when they are sick 100% of them all go to hospitals not church. when they recover they say god's grace, but when they don't get well they say doctors' fault. this is what a doctor told me about how stupid these sinkies' logic are.
what's wrong with atheism or belief in evolution or darwinism??? nothing. in fact i find those people esp NTF who suddenly embraced religions when they are dying is due to the fact that they are afraid of their past and karma befalling them for all the past sins and crimes they did when young hence the sudden conversions esp in Xtians. the sheer folly and psychological con job perpetrated by the church on the weak and dying(who are psychologically vulnerable). like they said offer a drowning man a twig and he would clutch at any straws . Most religions prey on the weak minded and those most vulnerable. How low can you get!!!!!
How come these idiots don't comment on other men of substance eg great scientists , achievers and philosopher s' atheist views eg stephen hawking, einstein, bertrand russel , dan brown etc. esp that Dan brown who wrote on da vinci code and has researched exhaustively on the workings of teh church . he who said publicly "Our planet would be "absolutely fine" without religion" and science would flourish without any religions. hahhahah and all those idiotic believers suddenly got so worked up and tweet and post on facebooks decrying his statements, the
irony was that all the shildish comments were posted using handphones, computers on the web etc the very instruments and products of scientific achievements!!!
to all these useless key board sinkies warriors above , spare me your crap pontifications. LKY and helmut schimdt are right to screw these hoi polloi when they were alive. Too bad, you cannot take away their achievements and glory. as for the
afterworld, who cares. as things are it is a figment of such idiots imaginations and religions are in fact ehe cause of 99% of all the world problems today eg middle east the that stupid non ending Xtian-muslim crusade which has nothing to do with eastern culture or people. You know alot of sinkies have lost their marbles when they can talk alot about Jews and side with them(as if they are one of them) but know nothing about confuciansims or lao tze. Yellow rotten bananas
 
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It is more like the other way around.

When you are young, rich and powerful, most people see very little need for God. It is only when they are old and dying that people suddenly find a need for God. They then go off in a desperate search for him.You will be surprised at the number of people who spend their whole lives mocking Christians who also go on this search when there is no more hope left in this world.

NTF was lucky because he found God just before he died. LKY does not look like he was so lucky. I personally do not think LKY managed to accept Jesus before he died.

Death is a powerful leveller. No matter how great LKY was in life, he is now the same as the security guard uncle and hawker centre cleaning auntie who died unknown and unremembered.

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He was trying maranatha (Lord Come !) meditation to try and find some peace. Till now, it is not certain if he managed to come to faith before he passed. This was unlike Ng Teng Fong who came to faith on his deathbed. To Christians, that story is a testament of the power of God to help a rich man who lived a sinful life to go through the eye of a needle. The lasting changes to Far East Organization to this day is witness to how powerful the event was.
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Ntf was the richest man in Singspore

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Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people living for today
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people living life in peace
 

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what's wrong with atheism or belief in evolution or darwinism??? nothing. in fact i find those people esp NTF who suddenly embraced religions when they are dying is due to the fact that they are afraid of their past and karma befalling them for all the past sins and crimes they did when young hence the sudden conversions esp in Xtians. the sheer folly and psychological con job perpetrated by the church on the weak and dying(who are psychologically vulnerable). like they said offer a drowning man a twig and he would clutch at any straws . Most religions prey on the weak minded and those most vulnerable. How low can you get!!!!!

Dictators and despots come in all stripes and persuasions; religion or the lack thereof is a moot point. Hitler was raised a devout Catholic, as were Mugabe and Mussolini. Stalin was a self-professed atheist although his parents observed the Orthodox customs. LKY was an agnostic, though like many agnostics he wasn't averse to some providential assistance, e.g. fengshui advice from the chief abbott and some end-of-life penitential peace from Maranatha meditation.

Long and short of it is, religion/spirituality has no hold on tyrants. What floats their boat is power, absolute power, and everything else can be sacrificed to this end.

Having said that, people of religion have been responsible for the vast majority of the violent deaths in human history. Christians have killed more people in the past two millennia than all the other religions combined. Some of the world's worst pogroms and genocides have been perpetrated by the Christians. And the carnage continues today, mostly in conflicts involving the Abrahamic religions in the Middle East and their proxy wars elsewhere.

So, you do have a point. The atheists and agnostics do come out smelling of roses when viewed in the context of humanity's immense history of bloodletting and violence. Some of the most humane people I've met are atheistic humanists, though, of course, I've met many decent folk of religion as well. You don't need religion to be a decent human being (though it can be argued that for some lower forms the fear of divine retribution might exact some redeeming behaviour), and while science doesn't negate religion, it can certainly flourish independently of religion.

As I said to Boss in another thread, it was the separation of Church and State that allowed the West to usher in the Age of Enlightenment and Industrialization and so leap-frog the rest of the world in social, economic and political development.
 
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As I said to Boss in another thread, it was the separation of Church and State that allowed the West to usher in the Age of Enlightenment and Industrialization and so leap-frog the rest of the world in social, economic and political development.

that is why singapore is doomed. Because the False God of Zikapore Lee Kuan Yew, and his family are still worshiped by 70% in the Church of the PAP and clearly not separated from State
 

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that is why singapore is doomed. Because the False God of Zikapore Lee Kuan Yew, and his family are still worshiped by 70% in the Church of the PAP and clearly not separated from State

This blind, total, unquestioning faith in the PAP by the 70% has gone beyond religion; it is the highest form of state superstition.

At the least PRC got two things right: get religion out of the political equation, and remove the familial dynastic politics of China's feudalistic past. You don't see Mao or Xi struggling to pass on power to their kids.

We're still stuck in the feudalistic mode: a ruling family with the mandate of heaven governing the superstitious masses with a bunch of emasculated imperial scholars and appropriating the entire nation's resources.

We're royally screwed.
 

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This blind, total, unquestioning faith in the PAP by the 70% has gone beyond religion; it is the highest form of state superstition.

At the least PRC got two things right: get religion out of the political equation, and remove the familial dynastic politics of China's feudalistic past. You don't see Mao or Xi struggling to pass on power to their kids.

We're still stuck in the feudalistic mode: a ruling family with the mandate of heaven governing the superstitious masses with a bunch of emasculated imperial scholars and appropriating the entire nation's resources.

We're royally screwed.

All put into place by a Defective Chinese who could not even speak or read or write Chinese to begin with. The irony of it all.
 
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