Serious milking money from depressed sinkie

Mr X was depressed over money and health matters. He went to a polyclinic to get medications for his depression and was advised to seek professional help with a psychologist. Even it is subsidised, Mr X cannot afford the cost.
What should Mr X do ?

Tell him to start on Zyban. It actually works and has the least side effects.

Uses
This medication is used in combination with a stop-smoking program (e.g., support group, counseling) to help you quit smoking. Bupropion can decrease your nicotine withdrawal symptoms (e.g., irritability, anxiety, restlessness) and your urge to smoke. Quitting smoking decreases your risk of heart and lung disease, as well as cancer.

This medication belongs to a class of medications known as antidepressants. It is not known exactly how bupropion works to reduce smoking urges. It may work by restoring the balance of certain natural chemicals (neurotransmitters) in the brain.

Discuss the risks and benefits of this medication, as well as other ways to quit smoking (such as nicotine replacement treatment), with your doctor.

How to use Zyban
Read the Medication Guide and, if available, the Patient Information Leaflet provided by your pharmacist before you start using bupropion and each time you get a refill. If you have any questions regarding the information, consult your doctor or pharmacist.

Take this medication by mouth, usually twice daily with or without food. If stomachupset occurs, take with food. It is important to take your doses at least 8 hours apart or as directed by your doctor to decrease your risk of seizure.

You may have trouble sleeping when you start taking this drug. Do not take your evening dose too close to bedtime.

Do not crush or chew this medication. Doing so can release all of the drug at once, increasing the risk of side effects, including seizures. Also, do not split the tablets unless they have a score line and your doctor or pharmacist tells you to do so. Swallow the whole or split tablet without crushing or chewing.

Your dosage is based on your medical condition and response to therapy. Your dose may be slowly increased to limit side effects. Do not take more or less medication than prescribed. Do not take more than 150 milligrams in a single dose. Do not take more than 300 milligrams per day. Taking more than the recommended dose of this medication may increase your risk of having a seizure.

It is recommended that you do not try to quit smoking until you have been taking bupropion for 1 week so that the drug can reach a high enough level in your blood. Set a date for quitting, and stop smoking sometime in the second week of taking the drug.

If necessary, this medication may be combined with nicotine patches or gum to help you quit smoking. Ask your doctor for more information. The combination of nicotine and this medication may increase your blood pressure. Your doctor may need to monitor your blood pressure closely. Do not smoke at any time if using any nicotine products with this drug. Too much nicotine can cause serious side effects.

Use this medication regularly in order to get the most benefit from it. To help you remember, use it at the same times each day.

Tell your doctor if you are not able to stop smoking after 7 to 12 weeks on this medication.

Treatment by Condition Related to Zyban

• Bipolar Depression Medications
• Stop Smoking Medications
• Attention Deficit Disorder with Hyperactivity Medications
• Depressed Mood Disorder Occurring Every Year at the Same Time Medications
• Nicotine Addiction Medications
• Anxiousness associated with Depression Medications
• Depression Medications
• Major Depressive Disorder Medications

Leongsam said:

Tell him to start on Zyban. It actually works and has the least side effects.

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A gp in sinkieland is only allowed to prescribed affordable subsidised anti depressants for a maximum of 1 week, after which the gp will need to refer Mr X to a specialist which he cannot afford. Or rather it will further affect his state of depression as 1 of the cause was he as money shortage .

sweetiepie said:

A gp in sinkieland is only allowed to prescribed affordable subsidised anti depressants for a maximum of 1 week, after which the gp will need to refer Mr X to a specialist which he cannot afford. Or rather it will further affect his state of depression as 1 of the cause was he as money shortage .

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Anti depressants help correct an imbalance in brain chemistry but it there is an underlying cause eg financial woes the cause still needs to be addressed.

Perhaps a doctor in the house can help out. It does not make sense to keep forcing a patient to see a specialist when it is beyond his means. There has to be a cheaper way.

mental illness is a form of cancer
no amount of meds can help
you have to mend y our cancerous thoughts
go and meditate and clear the garbage in your mind
mental illness is a big big money spinner for shrinks
go to a retreat and look into your own mind
the mental illness will just disappear on its own
no need medications - they will only make you worse

Leongsam said:

Anti depressants help correct an imbalance in brain chemistry but it there is an underlying cause eg financial woes the cause still needs to be addressed.

Perhaps a doctor in the house can help out. It does not make sense to keep forcing a patient to see a specialists when it is beyond his means. There has to be a cheaper way.

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There is no much of a cheaper way, the cheapest would be on Polyclinic recommendations to see a Psychologists, otherwise known as the Therapists or things are much serious, a Psychiatrists. Then again, you have no much money, unlike those like HSK where you can get the best of the land team of medical personnel; one have to settle with a long, long wait for appointment. In the meantime, live on ant-depressants prescribed by the GP at the Polyclinic, which may or may not calm the person; for one will be sitting on a tinder box. The person, may flipped, harm himself or herself or others.

But, one have money or connections, one can go see a Psychiatrist but this person...have NO MONEY ( but CPF RICH)...& it will become a 'dog chasing its tail situation'...the end result the dog gets groggy, hit the wall...& die. Problem solved.

Leongsam said:

Anti depressants help correct an imbalance in brain chemistry but it there is an underlying cause eg financial woes the cause still needs to be addressed.

Perhaps a doctor in the house can help out. It does not make sense to keep forcing a patient to see a specialists when it is beyond his means. There has to be a cheaper way.

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i was unable to advise Mr X as I am also not sure when a depressed person sees a theraphist what help can he provide or is just the depressed helped him get his salary.
From your reply it seems therapist should not exist or should charge a very low advising cost.

sweetiepie said:

A gp in sinkieland is only allowed to prescribed affordable subsidised anti depressants for a maximum of 1 week, after which the gp will need to refer Mr X to a specialist which he cannot afford. Or rather it will further affect his state of depression as 1 of the cause was he as money shortage .

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Go JB and buy medications.

At half to one third of the fucking price those that laughed to the banks subsidized us all here.

pakchewcheng said:

Go JB and buy medications.

At half to one third of the fucking price those that laughed to the banks subsidized us all here.

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i see is a not bad idea but only can purchase small units to prevent further depressed by custom or cnb.

sweetiepie said:

i see is a not bad idea but only can purchase small units to prevent further depressed by custom or cnb.

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Certain class C medications, JB pharmacies don't sell you....

halsey02 said:

There is no much of a cheaper way, the cheapest would be on Polyclinic recommendations to see a Psychologists, otherwise known as the Therapists or things are much serious, a Psychiatrists. Then again, you have no much money, unlike those like HSK where you can get the best of the land team of medical personnel; one have to settle with a long, long wait for appointment. In the meantime, live on ant-depressants prescribed by the GP at the Polyclinic, which may or may not calm the person; for one will be sitting on a tinder box. The person, may flipped, harm himself or herself or others.

But, one have money or connections, one can go see a Psychiatrist but this person...have NO MONEY ( but CPF RICH)...& it will become a 'dog chasing its tail situation'...the end result the dog gets groggy, hit the wall...& die. Problem solved.

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sad to say Mr X currently only can afford cheap over the controlled counter chlorphenamine used for flu to make himself drowsy. 50 pop at $2.50sgd. Perhaps next step is hitting the wall and die.

sweetiepie said:

sad to say Mr X currently only can afford cheap over the controlled counter chlorphenamine used for flu to make himself drowsy. 50 pop at $2.50sgd. Perhaps next step is hitting the wall and die.

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I buy $2.10 for Chlorphenamine from Unity, thanks for reminding me to top up....we used this for colds. Mr X should add a bottle of Dhashydl for additional kick, plus Cetricine ( don't buy the commercial one), Chlor...& Cetr..can be bought from the pharmacy here ( cheaper in JB), plus Dhasy..you have to go see a doctor...you take all three together....you can get a hangover, till past 1pm the next day.. that is the cheapest kick you can get... ha ha ha

I learnt that, when I had a bad flu, my 'drugs supplier'..aka my DOCTOR...prescribed me that...if you have to money, your medisave, medishield, CHAS card, Pioneer Card, etc..doesn't help....yes! hitting the wall & die..would be a good option...but before one does that, ask that question " WHOM DID YOU VOTE FOR"...that will relieve the thought of dying, for you will be livid & want to live to vote whom you had voted for out...but then again..."suicide is painless".. hmmm!

halsey02 said:

I buy $2.10 for Chlorphenamine from Unity, thanks for reminding me to top up....we used this for colds. Mr X should add a bottle of Dhashydl for additional kick, plus Cetricine ( don't buy the commercial one), Chlor...& Cetr..can be bought from the pharmacy here ( cheaper in JB), plus Dhasy..you have to go see a doctor...you take all three together....you can get a hangover, till past 1pm the next day.. that is the cheapest kick you can get... ha ha ha

I learnt that, when I had a bad flu, my 'drugs supplier'..aka my DOCTOR...prescribed me that...if you have to money, your medisave, medishield, CHAS card, Pioneer Card, etc..doesn't help....yes! hitting the wall & die..would be a good option...but before one does that, ask that question " WHOM DID YOU VOTE FOR"...that will relieve the thought of dying, for you will be livid & want to live to vote whom you had voted for out...but then again..."suicide is painless".. hmmm!

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good tips for the combinations.
How much does cetri and dhasy cost ?
Mr X can only afford cheapo solution.

sweetiepie said:

good tips for the combinations.
How much does cetri and dhasy cost ?
Mr X can only afford cheapo solution.

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Chor cost $2.10 for 20 or 30 I forgot , Cetrizine cost $8 for 20...all from your friendly neighbourhood UNITY...show ID please..go JB no need, it is cheaper there. Dhasyl....you have to see a doc...that will cost your wallet from $30 - $80 depending how fanciful the doctor clinic name is & in which medical group...of course, you can find those no name doctor, which you can see & get for $25... I sound like a drug pusher... ha ha ha

halsey02 said:

Chor cost $2.10 for 20 or 30 I forgot , Cetrizine cost $8 for 20...all from your friendly neighbourhood UNITY...show ID please..go JB no need, it is cheaper there. Dhasyl....you have to see a doc...that will cost your wallet from $30 - $80 depending how fanciful the doctor clinic name is & in which medical group...of course, you can find those no name doctor, which you can see & get for $25... I sound like a drug pusher... ha ha ha

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chor + cetri looks afforable and convenient then.
you sounds more like a drug abuser than pusher

sweetiepie said:

chor + cetri looks afforable and convenient then.
you sounds more like a drug abuser than pusher

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Goodness gracious no!... that is what I complained to my doctor, when given that combination to treat a bad flu. I rarely touches cholor...actually medically nothing heals a cold, medication, help to relieve only. The Cetrizine I need occasionally for I am allergic ... that's why Durian smells bad to me. Centrizine alone, can cause lightheadness till past noon the next day....

theblackhole said:

mental illness is a form of cancer
no amount of meds can help
you have to mend y our cancerous thoughts
go and meditate and clear the garbage in your mind
mental illness is a big big money spinner for shrinks
go to a retreat and look into your own mind
the mental illness will just disappear on its own
no need medications - they will only make you worse

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That's not true. Anti depressants work. I have seen the transformation with my own eyes. MRI scan of the brain have confirmed that anti depressants are effective.

The difficulty is in finding the right one for a particular individual. Once an appropriate medication is found it can keep depression at bay indefinitely.