No the original F4 started after Delphi. It all started with a quarrel with GMS. Can't remember the nick of one gardener who kept supporting GMS. F4 were made up of EJ, Chia Tee Lik, can't remember the nick of that lady (we're still in touch on FB) and myself.
I didn't know much about scroobal and his real behaviour. I only like his Tales from the Istana. In fact, I don't think I'd even chatted with him on SBF. I guess things didn't change much since the Delphi days. There were Ah Beng Song and Edwin ... and a couple of other warring buddies.... but I...
"Discipline somebody" ......you still don't get it! You're still not taking responsibility!!!!
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