CCS Contradicts LKY

[TracyTan866]

Good to see that Chan Chun Sing has the courage to publicly contradict LKY when he said that pay was not a factor for the PAP team that forms the govt.

This statement and his courage are important. It is not abt the pay...but his team dares to go against what LKY said and fought for. This augurs well for SG.

If CCS survives and rises in the heirarchy, it will embolden other pap leaders.

I see hope in the new team..CCS, HSK, TCJ.

Finally, Singaporeans have some hope in the new pap leaders

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Uh, what are you talking about? What article states it? What did he say to contradict?

 

[TracyTan866]

Uh, what are you talking about? What article states it? What did he say to contradict?

" Singapore's Acting Community Development, Youth and Sports Minister Chan Chun Sing has said that pay was never a factor for the team that forms the government."

LKY has always insisted that pay was important and fought tooth and nail to pay Ministers obscene salaries. If LKY is alert at 88yrs, he must be fuming mad

 

[The_Hypocrite]

" Singapore's Acting Community Development, Youth and Sports Minister Chan Chun Sing has said that pay was never a factor for the team that forms the government."

LKY has always insisted that pay was important and fought tooth and nail to pay Ministers obscene salaries. If LKY is alert at 88yrs, he must be fuming mad

Oh I see, I hope he puts his money where his mouth is and volunteer to donate his salary to charity and give it back to the state...like what Tan Jee Say announce during his presidential candidacy,.that he will keep X amount and return the rest back....

 

[TracyTan866]

Oh I see, I hope he puts his money where his mouth is and volunteer to donate his salary to charity and give it back to the state...like what Tan Jee Say announce during his presidential candidacy,.that he will keep X amount and return the rest back....

Money is not the main issue here. To me, CCS publicly speaking out against what LKY stood for all these years is a very encouraging sign

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Money is not the main issue here. To me, CCS publicly speaking out against what LKY stood for all these years is a very encouraging sign

I dont see it as speaking out publicly,,,he just made a statement about the high pay,,do not forget that the review was endorsed by the LHL and TT,,so its not dissent within the ranks,,,there was no direct contradiction with LKY,,,please even GCT etc endorsed the high pay etc when he was PM and SM too,,

 

[TracyTan866]

I dont see it as speaking out publicly,,,he just made a statement about the high pay,,do not forget that the review was endorsed by the LHL and TT,,so its not dissent within the ranks,,,there was no direct contradiction with LKY,,,please even GCT etc endorsed the high pay etc when he was PM and SM too,,

LKY was the main pusher for the obscene pay

 

[kingrant]

I happened to be watching when the retard tried using the analogy of eating $10 chye tow kuey and $1.50 chye tow kuey.

He said to the effect that if the carrot cake is good, even if it is $10 per plate, you would still pay for it and eat it, whereas even if the other carrot cake is $1.50, you would not want to eat it.

The idiot just doesnt understand that we are getting fedup because we have always been told that we are eating the $10 carrot cake when all these time we have been fed the $1.50 one.

He should know that his carrot cake is a monopoly. Just like the other idiot who tried to use chilli crab to compare.

If I were there, I would have fucked him and contradicted him about all his fuck buddies con job.

 

[Doubblur]

LKY was the main pusher for the obscene pay

Wrong. Let old uncle me tell you youngster the history. LKY has never pushed for high government salaries. Not that he doesn't like more money but his wife earned more than enough already. In GE 1991 after GCT took over, GCT suffered a loss of 4 seats and percentage loss worst at time, until GE 2011. LKY wanted explanation and solution. GCT was the one who said no money no honey, no talent no mellon. That was how minister salaries went up into millions. LKY ran out of ideas and agreed. So must publicly be seen to support GCT also. Because the next line was his son LHL, he must make sure GCT was alright all the way till handover.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

LKY was the main pusher for the obscene pay

It will only be a direct contradiction if he says that LKY is wrong and its a public statement,,,by saying that Pay is not the issue is his comments as minister..anyway,,i doubt he will remember what LKY say anyway,,,I know LKY was justifying must have out of this world salaries,,and hor that Hen fellow say,,he suffer pay cut..and all his minitoots were talents need the super high pay,,,,and LKY say alot of things,,,its not difficult to contradict him anyway..

anyway this No EQ rote learner is just another one on the gravy train,,dont see what good he will do for the people

 

[Checker]

He is saying this AFTER the review committee has secured his high salary and PM has accepted it.

 

[kingrant]

No lah Tracy, he did not really contradict his master lah. He has to admit that pay is not a factor for them. How else to reply?

Don't miss his last words (as they always must have), that pay should also not be a bugbear for not joining politics. So there you are. On the one hand, on the other....

Talking from both sides of the mouth.

Good to see that Chan Chun Sing has the courage to publicly contradict LKY when he said that pay was not a factor for the PAP team that forms the govt.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

Wrong. Let old uncle me tell you youngster the history. LKY has never pushed for high government salaries. Not that he doesn't like more money but his wife earned more than enough already. In GE 1991 after GCT took over, GCT suffered a loss of 4 seats and percentage loss worst at time, until GE 2011. LKY wanted explanation and solution. GCT was the one who said no money no honey, no talent no mellon. That was how minister salaries went up into millions. LKY ran out of ideas and agreed. So must publicly be seen to support GCT also. Because the next line was his son LHL, he must make sure GCT was alright all the way till handover.

Uh Old Uncle ah...i still place the blame on LKY,,,he has been justifying the high pay since time immemorial,..did not he say we dont get high pay for his talents...singaporeans will work as maids etc,,,,,,and anyway,..that time GCT was PM..and GCT say he not seat warmer,,so why he as to answer to lky? so he is a seat warmer lah and he liar lah...anyway both LKY and GCT are guilty...LHL is guilty too.

but now since LKY and GCT are no longer in the PAP EXco and cabinet..and if the PAP still fucks up..than it will fully be LHL fault,,,anyway,,,LHL is bound to screw up as he is incompetent and a nut job...he cant run the country properly

 

[kukubird58]

hahaha.....gugu....i hope u are getting too high from all these lky bashings.....
ccs was making a politically correct statement and you get so excited.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

" Singapore's Acting Community Development, Youth and Sports Minister Chan Chun Sing has said that pay was never a factor for the team that forms the government."

LKY has always insisted that pay was important and fought tooth and nail to pay Ministers obscene salaries. If LKY is alert at 88yrs, he must be fuming mad

CCS is not contradicting LKY. LKY talked about not letting pay be a deterrent to good people joining -- a crucial point CCS did not contradict, and which any right thinking Singaporean must not hesistate to contradict.

LKY also never admitted publicly that people who come into PAP are motivated solely by pay, although we all know that was at the back of his thinking.

Furthermore, CCS was only talking about his own point of view, he was not speaking on behalf of the cabinet. Whether CCS is sincere or not, nobody knows. But to say he contradicted LKY is a stretch of the imagination and a praise given to him that he does not deserve.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Memo to Ms Tracy

Stop being fooled by smooth talking politicians who only know how to ask you to raise hands!

 

[steffychun]

Good to see that Chan Chun Sing has the courage to publicly contradict LKY when he said that pay was not a factor for the PAP team that forms the govt.

This statement and his courage are important. It is not abt the pay...but his team dares to go against what LKY said and fought for. This augurs well for SG.

If CCS survives and rises in the heirarchy, it will embolden other pap leaders.

I see hope in the new team..CCS, HSK, TCJ.

Finally, Singaporeans have some hope in the new pap leaders

CCS is LKY's clone. Don't be fooled.

 

[freedalas]

Wrong. Let old uncle me tell you youngster the history. LKY has never pushed for high government salaries. Not that he doesn't like more money but his wife earned more than enough already. In GE 1991 after GCT took over, GCT suffered a loss of 4 seats and percentage loss worst at time, until GE 2011. LKY wanted explanation and solution. GCT was the one who said no money no honey, no talent no mellon. That was how minister salaries went up into millions. LKY ran out of ideas and agreed. So must publicly be seen to support GCT also. Because the next line was his son LHL, he must make sure GCT was alright all the way till handover.

I never fail to be amazed that there are still forummers here who think that any persons other than LKY has the authority and the power to initiate and decide on policies. Let me state this one more time. In S'pore politics, every policy, yes, every policy is conceived and decided upon by one and only one LKY!!!!!!!! PAP's organisation chart is a very simple one. There are two levels. First level is The Boss (LKY) and second level is The Rest (from LHL downwards)

 

[TracyTan866]

Wrong. Let old uncle me tell you youngster the history. LKY has never pushed for high government salaries. Not that he doesn't like more money but his wife earned more than enough already..

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

You really think that LKY is satisfied with what he had?

Then why abolish Estate Duties when his wife was comatose? Two probable reasons:

1. LKY didnt want to pay tax on his wife's estate.
2. LKY didnt want SG to know how much she had.

Either way, LKY has something to hide

 

[TracyTan866]

Wrong. Let old uncle me tell you youngster the history. LKY has never pushed for high government salaries. Not that he doesn't like more money but his wife earned more than enough already. In GE 1991 after GCT took over, GCT suffered a loss of 4 seats and percentage loss worst at time, until GE 2011. LKY wanted explanation and solution. GCT was the one who said no money no honey, no talent no mellon. That was how minister salaries went up into millions. LKY ran out of ideas and agreed. So must publicly be seen to support GCT also. Because the next line was his son LHL, he must make sure GCT was alright all the way till handover.

So who do you think finally approved the obscene pay? LKY or GCT?