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China and Canada : A beautiful relationship in the making

Interesting test, but so complicated. So Polestar by Geely took 1st place, not bad. I shall stop thinking it is inferior to BYD. Hope BYD improves it's car's operating range in cold weather.

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in the report, tesla was clear winner overall. range alone is not enough. my favorite is still the porsche macan ev followed by the taycan. i’m all in as a porsche owner. all other models are too low ses for me.
 
moreover, tiong evs are underperforming and underselling in europe. majority of them are stranded in european ports unable to move to dealerships and sales as euro consumers don’t buy them.
https://vnauto.net/2024/06/20/chinese-cars-stranded-at-european-ports/
yeah, they made too many EVs. Plus the high EU tariffs imposed to protect their euro brands. But, like the situation with Canada and China, the EU is working to allow more chinese EVs on their roads. Once that happens, more will buy them because they're generally cheaper.

EU and China are close to deal on electric cars, as Chinese EVs surge even with tariffs in Europe​

Fred Lambert | Jan 12 2026 - 6:31 am PT
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After months of back-and-forth and the looming threat of a full-blown trade war, the European Union and China are reportedly nearing a deal that would replace the EU’s controversial tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles with a minimum price undertaking.

It looks like sanity might prevail, or at least, a “soft landing.”

According to a new report from Associated Press, the European Commission and the Chinese government have agreed on a framework that allows Chinese automakers to avoid the punitive duties, which climbed as high as 35.3% for some manufacturers, by committing to a minimum import price for their EVs sold in Europe.

The European Commission published a guidance document on Monday detailing how these “price undertakings” will work. Essentially, instead of paying a tariff at the border, Chinese manufacturers like BYD, Geely, and SAIC can agree to sell their vehicles at or above a certain price floor. This floor is intended to offset the “unfair subsidies” that Brussels claims Beijing has been pouring into its domestic EV industry.

https://electrek.co/2026/01/12/eu-c...ric-cars-as-chinese-evs-surge-tariffs-europe/
 
latest ev sales by model in tiongcock.
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But worldwide, BYD is leading the pack. Eventually when they're sold in Canada, the lead will be wider.

China’s BYD Displaces Tesla as the Global Leader of EVs​

January 9, 2026
By: Brian C. Black

BYD’s rise reflects China’s scale, pricing power, and policy coherence, while Tesla’s slowdown exposes how US political backlash is reshaping the global EV race.

China’s BYD has overtaken Elon Musk’s Tesla as the world’s biggest seller of electric vehicles (EVs), marking the first time it has outpaced its American rival in annual sales.

This startling shift reflects growth and development at BYD; however, it also grows from changes for Tesla, the previous leader. Tesla car sales dropped by nearly nine percent in 2025, to 1.64 million vehicles worldwide. It marks the second consecutive year of falling car deliveries for the company. Those figures placed Tesla behind BYD, which said recently that sales of its battery-powered cars rose last year by almost 28 percent to more than 2.25 million.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland/chinas-byd-displaces-tesla-as-the-global-leader-of-evs
 
yeah, they made too many EVs. Plus the high EU tariffs imposed to protect their euro brands. But, like the situation with Canada and China, the EU is working to allow more chinese EVs on their roads. Once that happens, more will buy them because they're generally cheaper.

EU and China are close to deal on electric cars, as Chinese EVs surge even with tariffs in Europe​

Fred Lambert | Jan 12 2026 - 6:31 am PT
EU-China-EV-deal.png


After months of back-and-forth and the looming threat of a full-blown trade war, the European Union and China are reportedly nearing a deal that would replace the EU’s controversial tariffs on Chinese electric vehicles with a minimum price undertaking.

It looks like sanity might prevail, or at least, a “soft landing.”

According to a new report from Associated Press, the European Commission and the Chinese government have agreed on a framework that allows Chinese automakers to avoid the punitive duties, which climbed as high as 35.3% for some manufacturers, by committing to a minimum import price for their EVs sold in Europe.

The European Commission published a guidance document on Monday detailing how these “price undertakings” will work. Essentially, instead of paying a tariff at the border, Chinese manufacturers like BYD, Geely, and SAIC can agree to sell their vehicles at or above a certain price floor. This floor is intended to offset the “unfair subsidies” that Brussels claims Beijing has been pouring into its domestic EV industry.

https://electrek.co/2026/01/12/eu-c...ric-cars-as-chinese-evs-surge-tariffs-europe/
ccp strategy is a broken canada so they can find a massive land base to ship cheap and unsafe evs via an entry into the u.s. and canada happens to have the longest border with u.s. problem is ntsb safety approvals are tough, and different from canada’s. trump and the next admin will ensure tiong evs in canada cannot enter u.s. for safety and regulatory reasons. also to protect detroit and other auto manufacturers. the dems will do it too as their voter base is massively auto workers union. canada is a non-market as on the canadian great highway between vancouver to toronto you see mainly trucks and rigs. the u.s. is by far the biggest auto market on the planet. tiong manufacturers can only salivate.
 
But worldwide, BYD is leading the pack. Eventually when they're sold in Canada, the lead will be wider.

China’s BYD Displaces Tesla as the Global Leader of EVs​

January 9, 2026
By: Brian C. Black

BYD’s rise reflects China’s scale, pricing power, and policy coherence, while Tesla’s slowdown exposes how US political backlash is reshaping the global EV race.

China’s BYD has overtaken Elon Musk’s Tesla as the world’s biggest seller of electric vehicles (EVs), marking the first time it has outpaced its American rival in annual sales.

This startling shift reflects growth and development at BYD; however, it also grows from changes for Tesla, the previous leader. Tesla car sales dropped by nearly nine percent in 2025, to 1.64 million vehicles worldwide. It marks the second consecutive year of falling car deliveries for the company. Those figures placed Tesla behind BYD, which said recently that sales of its battery-powered cars rose last year by almost 28 percent to more than 2.25 million.

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/techland/chinas-byd-displaces-tesla-as-the-global-leader-of-evs
they are not really being “sold”. they are shipped by the hundreds of thousands to ports in europe, latin america, asia, middle east and they just sit there in the ports. ccp uses a funny accounting method not according to world standard. once shipped to port or warehouse ccp considered that a sale and invoiceable, receipt or no receipt. like that anything stuck in a warehouse is considered “sold”, which is ludicrous. over 69k byd evs are still stuck in brazilian ports.
https://www.business-standard.com/w...-carmakers-import-tariffs-124121700701_1.html
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/antitrust/thousands-of-chinese-evs-clog-up-brazils-ports-in-slowdown
https://www.scmp.com/business/china...-jammed-70000-unsold-chinese-evs-tariffs-loom
https://www.reuters.com/business/fi...ith-cheap-evs-triggering-backlash-2025-06-19/
 
in the report, tesla was clear winner overall. range alone is not enough. my favorite is still the porsche macan ev followed by the taycan. i’m all in as a porsche owner. all other models are too low ses for me.
Yeah, if I were in the US, I'd buy a Taycan. Entry price is only about US$100k-120K. Mecan EV is only about US$80k. Both are considerably cheaper than an Xpeng G6 or BYD Sealion 7 in sg.
 
Yeah, if I were in the US, I'd buy a Taycan. Entry price is only about US$100k-120K. Mecan EV is only about US$80k. Both are considerably cheaper than an Xpeng G6 or BYD Sealion 7 in sg.
i won’t buy a tesla too. 69% of cecas in sillycon valley drive teslas. worst drivers on bay area roads. poor driving cecas have becum synonymous with teslas.
 
ccp strategy is a broken canada so they can find a massive land base to ship cheap and unsafe evs via an entry into the u.s. and canada happens to have the longest border with u.s. problem is ntsb safety approvals are tough, and different from canada’s. trump and the next admin will ensure tiong evs in canada cannot enter u.s. for safety and regulatory reasons. also to protect detroit and other auto manufacturers. the dems will do it too as their voter base is massively auto workers union. canada is a non-market as on the canadian great highway between vancouver to toronto you see mainly trucks and rigs. the u.s. is by far the biggest auto market on the planet. tiong manufacturers can only salivate.
I don't think that's the CCP's strategy to destroy Canada.:biggrin: Also I believe safety issues are not really an issue, more so they want to protect their own auto manufacturers. And the fear of being spied on, EVs are high tech with blue tooth and wifi connections. Scary stuff actually!
 
they are not really being “sold”. they are shipped by the hundreds of thousands to ports in europe, latin america, asia, middle east and they just sit there in the ports. ccp uses a funny accounting method not according to world standard. once shipped to port or warehouse ccp considered that a sale and invoiceable, receipt or no receipt. like that anything stuck in a warehouse is considered “sold”, which is ludicrous. over 69k byd evs are still stuck in brazilian ports.
https://www.business-standard.com/w...-carmakers-import-tariffs-124121700701_1.html
https://news.bloomberglaw.com/antitrust/thousands-of-chinese-evs-clog-up-brazils-ports-in-slowdown
https://www.scmp.com/business/china...-jammed-70000-unsold-chinese-evs-tariffs-loom
https://www.reuters.com/business/fi...ith-cheap-evs-triggering-backlash-2025-06-19/
Are those cars sitting at the ports paid for? By buyers or importers?
 
i won’t buy a tesla too. 69% of cecas in sillycon valley drive teslas. worst drivers on bay area roads. poor driving cecas have becum synonymous with teslas.
Teslas and BYDs/Xpengs are priced almost the same in sg. Yeah I won't buy a tesla either, I find them too boring to look at, lacking in mechanical driver interface in the cabin (i need knobs and levers).
 
Are those cars sitting at the ports paid for? By buyers or importers?
“importers” are tiongs who bought and rent swathes of warehouses at the docks. these importers (more like imposters) are connected to the ev companies. they help to move and distribute goods from tiongcock in nefarious and fraudulent ways. ccp sponsored tiongs have been buying warehouses in the west and building ports in 3rd world cuntries to do just that - move tons of goods and products from tiongcock to rest of the world and flood markets with heavily discounted prices. sooner or later some buyers or some corrupted or bribed officials will bite. it’s a race to the gutter in all their modus operandi, from spas to solar panels to sex to shiitake.
 
Canada's new strategy with China will set a precedent for other leaders to consider reworking with China again, especially if this collaboration will lead to trust and prosperity for both Canada and China. The next 6 months to a year will be interesting to watch. I believe China won't be stupid enough to jeopardize this opportunity because if they will do it well, other countries will take the bite and collaborate more with China as well going into the future because the US is clearly getting much more expensive and out of bounds to them.
 
Canada's new strategy with China will set a precedent for other leaders to consider reworking with China again, especially if this collaboration will lead to trust and prosperity for both Canada and China. The next 6 months to a year will be interesting to watch. I believe China won't be stupid enough to jeopardize this opportunity because if they will do it well, other countries will take the bite and collaborate more with China as well going into the future because the US is clearly getting much more expensive and out of bounds to them.
ccp will fuck it up just like they did with brazil. now brazil is very wary of nonstop container ships cumming from tiongcock. brazil is wondering why tiongcock is so desperate to ship unwanted products to brazil when brazilians don’t ask for them.
https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/inter...-protection-to-contain-chinese-invasion.shtml

Brazil Weighs Emergency Measures to Counter Surge in Chinese Imports​

 
ccp will fuck it up just like they did with brazil. now brazil is very wary of nonstop container ships cumming from tiongcock. brazil is wondering why tiongcock is so desperate to ship unwanted products to brazil when brazilians don’t ask for them.
This is different because Canada sets a limit to the number of EVs that can be imported from China.
 
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