Tiagong BYD is the next Evergrande

Debts mounting like Pengang Hill.

An avalanche coming.

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Why Toyota, Volkswagon and Ford higher debt never go under?
 
youtube iz laden wif weedios abt ze imminent collapse of china but it never toh… :rolleyes:
 

Goodbye to trust in Tesla – buyers report that their “new” cars may have been refurbished – many of them show hidden wear and tear​

by Laura M.

05/31/2025 12:00

Goodbye to trust in Tesla - buyers report that their “new” cars may have been refurbished - many of them show hidden wear and tear

Goodbye to trust in Tesla - buyers report that their “new” cars may have been refurbished - many of them show hidden wear and tear.

Tesla has just become the centre of a new scandal, and they truly are the definition of “let them talk, even if it’s bad.” And this time, it’s not some small controversy, Tesla is being accused of delivering Cybertrucks that aren’t actually brand new, but have spent months under the blazing sun and heavy rain before being handed over. A real scandal, especially considering that Cybertrucks are not exactly cheap.

As expected, this situation has sparked questions about Tesla’s transparency, the quality of their vehicles, and, most of all, the real value of these cars at the time of delivery… What is happening to Tesla?

A “ready” Cybertruck a bit too soon​

Reza Soltani, a buyer in Texas, ordered his Cybertruck on April 25 and immediately received confirmation that he could pick it up, strange, right? Something didn’t sit right with this buyer, since the vehicle in question had left the factory on January 8. What? The car had spent more than four months sitting outside! Of course, Soltani refused the car.

Thousands of vehicles parked​

And the worst part is that Soltani’s case isn’t unique. Drones and reporters have documented massive lots full of unsold Cybertrucks piling up in open-air parking lots, something that contradicts the premium image Tesla wants to project.

Everything suggests that the company is producing more vehicles than it’s able to sell, which has led to price cuts, layoffs, and a forced expansion into new markets like Saudi Arabia.
 
youtube iz laden wif weedios abt ze imminent collapse of china but it never toh… :rolleyes:
BOH Bian…many dun understand how Tiongkok Birdcage economy world

Imagine even in peak of culture revolution, Tiongkok econ still humming along
 
BOH Bian…many dun understand how Tiongkok Birdcage economy world

Imagine even in peak of culture revolution, Tiongkok econ still humming along
Maybe so. But tens of Millions died of starvation.
 

Goodbye to trust in Tesla – buyers report that their “new” cars may have been refurbished – many of them show hidden wear and tear​

by Laura M.

05/31/2025 12:00

Goodbye to trust in Tesla - buyers report that their “new” cars may have been refurbished - many of them show hidden wear and tear

Goodbye to trust in Tesla - buyers report that their “new” cars may have been refurbished - many of them show hidden wear and tear.

Tesla has just become the centre of a new scandal, and they truly are the definition of “let them talk, even if it’s bad.” And this time, it’s not some small controversy, Tesla is being accused of delivering Cybertrucks that aren’t actually brand new, but have spent months under the blazing sun and heavy rain before being handed over. A real scandal, especially considering that Cybertrucks are not exactly cheap.

As expected, this situation has sparked questions about Tesla’s transparency, the quality of their vehicles, and, most of all, the real value of these cars at the time of delivery… What is happening to Tesla?

A “ready” Cybertruck a bit too soon​

Reza Soltani, a buyer in Texas, ordered his Cybertruck on April 25 and immediately received confirmation that he could pick it up, strange, right? Something didn’t sit right with this buyer, since the vehicle in question had left the factory on January 8. What? The car had spent more than four months sitting outside! Of course, Soltani refused the car.

Thousands of vehicles parked​

And the worst part is that Soltani’s case isn’t unique. Drones and reporters have documented massive lots full of unsold Cybertrucks piling up in open-air parking lots, something that contradicts the premium image Tesla wants to project.

Everything suggests that the company is producing more vehicles than it’s able to sell, which has led to price cuts, layoffs, and a forced expansion into new markets like Saudi Arabia.

Unlikely because refurbished cars are more expensive as new cars are cheaper due to robotic process
 
ship carrying over 3k evs from tiongcock bound for mexico catches fire and sinks in pacific near alaska. all evs on board were zero-mile “used” cars being dumped in mexico.
 
Soo sad...I would like to buy a BYD ...as the specs is much better than a Toyota equivalent model...but with this debt thing n it being a chicons car...I am taking a step back
 
Soo sad...I would like to buy a BYD ...as the specs is much better than a Toyota equivalent model...but with this debt thing n it being a chicons car...I am taking a step back
can buy a zero-mile (aka new from factory) but certified as “used” byd with 69% discount off msrp.
 
can buy a zero-mile (aka new from factory) but certified as “used” byd with 69% discount off msrp.
Ok jokes aside....I compare all cars with Toyota as it's the industry standard in the reliability index...but tech etc is really way behind the chicons cars....byd have built in TPMS ...can can monitor tyre pressure constantly n tat important as some models no spare tyre...n look not boring and about 20% cheaper to it's Toyota equivalent...n not byd...got other chicons brands doing same thing...n longer warranty etc. .n worst thing is chicons cars got discounts etc...toyota is take it or leave it. N have to wait...average is 6 months..n demo is same price as new..so far Toyota is still holding up due to halo effect, reliability..n resale value....n byd reliability is an unknown...but look at Kia n Hyundai...it's even more expensive than Toyota now...but the tech n design puts Toyota to shame....n . chicons might be the next Kia n Hyundai

But if chicons cars price drop ABIT more.... Toyota resale value will be affected as well...as why buy 2nd hand when new is cheaper n lifetime ownership cost will be the same? Be it chicons or Toyota? So when all things being equal... Toyota will suffer . ...get wat I mean?
 
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