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LITTLEREDDOT

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Can give your opinions on race as long as it is not offensive.

S'pore's approach in prohibiting offensive speech but not sharing of opinions on race, protects minorities: Shanmugam​

The approach gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam.


The approach gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam.PHOTO: ST FILE
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Hariz Baharudin


JUL 5, 2021

SINGAPORE - Singapore's approach, in strictly prohibiting offensive speech on race, but not the sharing of opinions on these matters, gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam on Monday (July 5).

He added that if racially offensive speech by all is tolerated or allowed, it can be expected that more of such speech will be directed towards minority communities, who will then bear the brunt of it.

Mr Shanmugam was replying to Ms Raeesah Khan (Sengkang GRC), who had asked if laws against racist hate speech here are consistent with recommendations by the United Nations that state how measures to combat racist speech should not be used as a pretext to curtail expressions of protest.

Singapore's laws against racist hate and offensive speech are consistent with these recommendations, said the minister.

He said that under the Penal Code, it is an offence to commit acts that deliberately wound the racial feelings of any person, promote enmity between different racial groups, or conduct acts that are prejudicial to the maintenance of racial harmony.

"These laws apply equally to everyone, regardless of race," said Mr Shanmugam. He shared two incidents when such laws were used.

In the first, in January 2019, a Chinese man was charged under the Penal Code for deliberately intending to wound the racial feelings of the Malay population. The man had scrawled racist messages about Malays on walls in void decks and sheltered walkways in Geylang and Aljunied.

In the second, in June 2020, a Malay man who used a Twitter account with a Chinese name "@sharonliew86" to make racist remarks against people of different races was similarly charged.

While noting that a significant amount of discussion, commentary and sharing of experiences on race takes place, Mr Shanmugam said that Singapore takes a strict approach to offensive speech and hate speech.

This approach applies equally to all, regardless of majority or minority, which he said gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, and to give their views.

Should racially offensive speech be tolerated or allowed, more of such speech will likely be directed towards minority communities, added Mr Shanmugam.

"That will ironically reduce the safe space for discussion of such issues, and increase minority community concerns for safety and security. These are not hypotheticals. This is what has happened in several other countries," he said.

"We need to be careful about changing what has worked reasonably well in Singapore (though it is not perfect), and replacing it with policies which have not worked so well, in other places."

In his reply, Mr Shanmugam also noted that the UN recommendations have similarly taken the view that the protection of people from racist hate speech is not incompatible and is not "simply one of opposition" against the freedom of expression.

The minister added that is not clear in Ms Raeesah's question if she is suggesting that whenever anyone claims to be protesting against "injustice, expressing social discontent, or speaking in opposition", they should be exempted from the Penal Code and be allowed to engage in hate or offensive speech.

The Ministry of Home Affairs has invited her to clarify this, said Mr Shanmugam.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

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Why are Indians detested?
Because of the culture in India that they came from.

A culture of cheating and lying which they bring over when they come to Singapore.
Cheating and lying manifested in fake education credentials, fake covid-19 test results, fake vaccination certificates.

A culture of self-centeredness and every man for himself.
An ethnocentric and clannish culture in which an Indian will hire his fellow Indian from his village, his home town.

A caste system that perpetuates class discrimination and gives rise to elites with a displaced sense of entitlement.
Which they bring over when they come to Singapore: they think they are better than the locals and talk down to them.

This culture and behaviour are incongruous with the culture and values in Singapore.
Singapore has prospered because of a culture of integrity, honesty, good manners and community spirit assimilated from the colonial British.

Can't blame Singaporeans when the behaviour of Indians rankle them.
And do not brand Singaporeans' reactions and responses towards Indians as racist in nature.
It is not racism. It is a dislike, and every person is entitled to his likes and dislikes.
 
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tanwahtiu

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When the jobs are stolen by one particular race, Indians, with fake degrees and supported by PAP learn as u earn from zero to heroes to Superstar IT, banking, nursing, medicals workers to take up high valued condo units as tenancy occupants even dogs will attack the owners.

Another Indian protecting his indian ancestors homeland from bashing...
 

Loofydralb

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Why are Indians detested?
Because of the culture in India that they came from.

A culture of cheating and lying which they bring over when they come to Singapore.
Cheating and lying manifested in fake education credentials, fake covid-19 test results, fake vaccination certificates.

A culture of self-centeredness and every man for himself.
An ethnocentric and clannish culture in which an Indian will hire his fellow Indian from his village, his home town.

A caste system that perpetuates class discrimination and gives rise to elites with a displaced sense of entitlement.
Which they bring over when they come to Singapore: they think they are better than the locals and talk down to them.

This culture and behaviour are incongruous with the culture and values in Singapore.
Singapore has prospered because of a culture of integrity, honesty, good manners and community spirit assimilated from the colonial British.

Can't blame Singaporeans when the behaviour of Indians rankle them.
And do not brand Singaporeans' reactions and responses towards Indians as racist in nature.
It is not racism. It is a dislike, and every person is entitled to his likes and dislikes.

I shall add:

Its a culture bereft of conscience.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

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I shall add:

Its a culture bereft of conscience.
Arose out of a dog-eat-dog society, and every-man-for-himself mentality.

Gave rise to corruption. Make hay while the sun shines, pilfer as much money as one can.
Is it any wonder that India has one of the most corrupt political and economic systems in the world?
This, in spite of the good influence of the British colonists and the introduction of the English law.

No community spirit. No societal obligations.
 

syed putra

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The local chinese are not used to be out smart, beaten, less competitive to ceca's. Ch8nese used to say malays are lazy. But these ceca newcomers are saying same thing about local chinese.
 

glockman

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The local chinese are not used to be out smart, beaten, less competitive to ceca's. Ch8nese used to say malays are lazy. But these ceca newcomers are saying same thing about local chinese.
You know your allegation is untrue, bordering on blasphemy. Without the chinks, SG would still be a fishing village today. m&ds are lazy, shitskins are drunk and untrustworthy.
 

glockman

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Can give your opinions on race as long as it is not offensive.

S'pore's approach in prohibiting offensive speech but not sharing of opinions on race, protects minorities: Shanmugam​

The approach gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam.


The approach gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam.PHOTO: ST FILE
hariz_baharudin.png

Hariz Baharudin


JUL 5, 2021

SINGAPORE - Singapore's approach, in strictly prohibiting offensive speech on race, but not the sharing of opinions on these matters, gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam on Monday (July 5).

He added that if racially offensive speech by all is tolerated or allowed, it can be expected that more of such speech will be directed towards minority communities, who will then bear the brunt of it.

Mr Shanmugam was replying to Ms Raeesah Khan (Sengkang GRC), who had asked if laws against racist hate speech here are consistent with recommendations by the United Nations that state how measures to combat racist speech should not be used as a pretext to curtail expressions of protest.

Singapore's laws against racist hate and offensive speech are consistent with these recommendations, said the minister.

He said that under the Penal Code, it is an offence to commit acts that deliberately wound the racial feelings of any person, promote enmity between different racial groups, or conduct acts that are prejudicial to the maintenance of racial harmony.

"These laws apply equally to everyone, regardless of race," said Mr Shanmugam. He shared two incidents when such laws were used.

In the first, in January 2019, a Chinese man was charged under the Penal Code for deliberately intending to wound the racial feelings of the Malay population. The man had scrawled racist messages about Malays on walls in void decks and sheltered walkways in Geylang and Aljunied.

In the second, in June 2020, a Malay man who used a Twitter account with a Chinese name "@sharonliew86" to make racist remarks against people of different races was similarly charged.

While noting that a significant amount of discussion, commentary and sharing of experiences on race takes place, Mr Shanmugam said that Singapore takes a strict approach to offensive speech and hate speech.

This approach applies equally to all, regardless of majority or minority, which he said gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, and to give their views.

Should racially offensive speech be tolerated or allowed, more of such speech will likely be directed towards minority communities, added Mr Shanmugam.

"That will ironically reduce the safe space for discussion of such issues, and increase minority community concerns for safety and security. These are not hypotheticals. This is what has happened in several other countries," he said.

"We need to be careful about changing what has worked reasonably well in Singapore (though it is not perfect), and replacing it with policies which have not worked so well, in other places."

In his reply, Mr Shanmugam also noted that the UN recommendations have similarly taken the view that the protection of people from racist hate speech is not incompatible and is not "simply one of opposition" against the freedom of expression.

The minister added that is not clear in Ms Raeesah's question if she is suggesting that whenever anyone claims to be protesting against "injustice, expressing social discontent, or speaking in opposition", they should be exempted from the Penal Code and be allowed to engage in hate or offensive speech.

The Ministry of Home Affairs has invited her to clarify this, said Mr Shanmugam.
What's there to talk? Just tell 'em politely

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batman1

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Retribution to the muthefarkers who allow so many Ah Nehs to come into Red Dot to replace sinkees.
 

LITTLEREDDOT

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This is not racism nor discrimination. This is a personal dislike for renting out to Indians.

Perhaps the landlord has had bad experiences renting out to Indians. In any case, no one needs to justify one's likes/dislikes, preferences to anyone.

Dot likes Africans, Latinos, whites, blacks, Koreans but dislike Chinese, Malays, Indians, Japanese. Within the first group, Dot prefers to rent to Koreans over blacks, blacks over Latinos, Latinos over Africans, and Africans over whites. Dot will not rent to the second group. So how?

“Owner rejected your race”: SGH nurse allegedly denied flat rental for being Indian​



After replying that her ethnicity is Indian, the listed Facebook seller's curt response was "Tks (Thanks), (the) owner rejected your race."
Photo: from Twitter user @browngurl_


AUTHOR
Beatrice Del Rosario
DATE
July 9, 2021

A screenshot showing a registered SGH nurse being denied a flat rental on the basis of her race has recently been circulating. Thousands have expressed their outrage over this alleged incident.
A Twitter user on Tuesday (Jul 6) shared her jaw-dropping experience looking for a flat. The rental, located in BLK 161 Mei Ling Street, is posted on Facebook Marketplace and advertises a common room for one female tenant.
According to the description, currently living in the flat are two females — the owner, whose nationality is listed down as Chinese, and another tenant, whose nationality is listed down as Malaysian Chinese.
At the bottom of the listing is a note that advises people to report the post if it is discriminatory.
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Photo: screengrab from Facebook Marketplace

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Photo: screengrab from Facebook Marketplace
In the Twitter post, a screengrab was shared of an inquiry made to the flat’s listed seller. After introducing herself as Adeline, she gave some of her background information, saying she’s from Malaysia, has a work permit, and is registered as a nurse at Singapore General Hospital (SGH).
In response to this, the Facebook seller is seen to have asked for her race.
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Photo: screengrab from Facebook Marketplace
After replying that her ethnicity is Indian, the listed Facebook seller’s curt response was “Tks (Thanks), owner rejected your race.”
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Photo: screengrab from Facebook Marketplace
Taking her sentiments about the situation to social media, Adeline wrote, “(I don’t know) about the rentals in Malaysia, but in Singapore th(ough)…it’s f*cked up.”
Hundreds rallied behind Adeline, some expressing their sympathies and others sharing their own similar experiences in solidarity. One Twitter user pointed out, “For all the good things in Singapore, racism is still a huge problem.”
TISG has reached out to both parties for comment and clarification.
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tanwahtiu

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One bad apple can spoil the basket of rotten apples.

This was experiences shared by many disappointing landlords whom rent to Indians... this has become historical...

Like the USA whom go round the world bully other countries and it has come to pass all countries shared their views of the scumbag American USA.

Everything being equals the nation of people must behaved well and being like by other race, nationality and etc.

Keep on attacking the landlords with misbehaviour, dirty and smell the property will not jell with the landlord community.
 

laksaboy

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I have a Malay neighbour who rented out to CECA Indian family. Never again, the neighbour told me. :cool:

I believe I had mentioned that family once: during Deepavali (Diwali), they put those mini oil lamps along the corridor railing. :rolleyes:
 

mojito

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I have a Malay neighbour who rented out to CECA Indian family. Never again, the neighbour told me. :cool:

I believe I had mentioned that family once: during Deepavali (Diwali), they put those mini oil lamps along the corridor railing. :rolleyes:
Do you see how well they are doing? Looks to me the Indian gods are more power. :cool:
 

LITTLEREDDOT

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Quotes:
@2:00 "But when a group of Indians live in one neighbourhood, we seem to bring down the civic standards."
@2:13 "In fact, I would like to say, and I am an Indian, we are the undisputed world champion of public filth."
@2:23 "....because we are a society that doesn't like to follow rules."
@2:49 "We need to admit that we are all ugly Indians"

 
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tanwahtiu

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Can give your opinions on race as long as it is not offensive.

S'pore's approach in prohibiting offensive speech but not sharing of opinions on race, protects minorities: Shanmugam​

The approach gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam.


The approach gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam.PHOTO: ST FILE
hariz_baharudin.png

Hariz Baharudin


JUL 5, 2021

SINGAPORE - Singapore's approach, in strictly prohibiting offensive speech on race, but not the sharing of opinions on these matters, gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, said Home Affairs and Law Minister K. Shanmugam on Monday (July 5).

He added that if racially offensive speech by all is tolerated or allowed, it can be expected that more of such speech will be directed towards minority communities, who will then bear the brunt of it.

Mr Shanmugam was replying to Ms Raeesah Khan (Sengkang GRC), who had asked if laws against racist hate speech here are consistent with recommendations by the United Nations that state how measures to combat racist speech should not be used as a pretext to curtail expressions of protest.

Singapore's laws against racist hate and offensive speech are consistent with these recommendations, said the minister.

He said that under the Penal Code, it is an offence to commit acts that deliberately wound the racial feelings of any person, promote enmity between different racial groups, or conduct acts that are prejudicial to the maintenance of racial harmony.

"These laws apply equally to everyone, regardless of race," said Mr Shanmugam. He shared two incidents when such laws were used.

In the first, in January 2019, a Chinese man was charged under the Penal Code for deliberately intending to wound the racial feelings of the Malay population. The man had scrawled racist messages about Malays on walls in void decks and sheltered walkways in Geylang and Aljunied.

In the second, in June 2020, a Malay man who used a Twitter account with a Chinese name "@sharonliew86" to make racist remarks against people of different races was similarly charged.

While noting that a significant amount of discussion, commentary and sharing of experiences on race takes place, Mr Shanmugam said that Singapore takes a strict approach to offensive speech and hate speech.

This approach applies equally to all, regardless of majority or minority, which he said gives greater protection for minorities by making it safe for them to speak about their experiences, and to give their views.

Should racially offensive speech be tolerated or allowed, more of such speech will likely be directed towards minority communities, added Mr Shanmugam.

"That will ironically reduce the safe space for discussion of such issues, and increase minority community concerns for safety and security. These are not hypotheticals. This is what has happened in several other countries," he said.

"We need to be careful about changing what has worked reasonably well in Singapore (though it is not perfect), and replacing it with policies which have not worked so well, in other places."

In his reply, Mr Shanmugam also noted that the UN recommendations have similarly taken the view that the protection of people from racist hate speech is not incompatible and is not "simply one of opposition" against the freedom of expression.

The minister added that is not clear in Ms Raeesah's question if she is suggesting that whenever anyone claims to be protesting against "injustice, expressing social discontent, or speaking in opposition", they should be exempted from the Penal Code and be allowed to engage in hate or offensive speech.

The Ministry of Home Affairs has invited her to clarify this, said Mr Shanmugam.

This black snake lawyer fuck back to India...
 
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