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The Education System is in need of a revolution.

zhihau

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It's nothing short of the Cambrian explosion that I spoke of previously- to allow public funded schools to really experiment with smaller class sizes, different modes of teaching and learning, and fundamentally re-thinking the need for assessment.

Basic levels of appreciation for the aesthetics, arithmetics, command of langugages, logic and sciences shall remain at the primary school levels; with the addition of humanities at the secondary school levels.

Carry on with the standardised testing at the end of the academic year if you wish but that should really take a back seat or be subjugated as an insignificant figure. Discard the need for placements.

To move ahead, we need to break out of that traditional classroom mode and allowing collaboration across the classes as well as across the levels should be strongly encouraged.

Look at the real world, people from different cultures and age groups are coming together to forge ahead in a system. If Singapore needs to get ahead, take a leaf from the Finnish system, break down the walls of segregation.

Something that's done in the right direction for the current system but not gathering enough momentum- to increase the joy of learning. Go on and get rid of assessment.
 

tanwahtiu

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In BE no make money no biz. Make human suffer education with long tedious period to keep paying for life....

BE Education is like taking opium very profitable for the establishment with low cost of expenses and easy to grow. .

It's nothing short of the Cambrian explosion that I spoke of previously- to allow public funded schools to really experiment with smaller class sizes, different modes of teaching and learning, and fundamentally re-thinking the need for assessment.

Basic levels of appreciation for the aesthetics, arithmetics, command of langugages, logic and sciences shall remain at the primary school levels; with the addition of humanities at the secondary school levels.

Carry on with the standardised testing at the end of the academic year if you wish but that should really take a back seat or be subjugated as an insignificant figure. Discard the need for placements.

To move ahead, we need to break out of that traditional classroom mode and allowing collaboration across the classes as well as across the levels should be strongly encouraged.

Look at the real world, people from different cultures and age groups are coming together to forge ahead in a system. If Singapore needs to get ahead, take a leaf from the Finnish system, break down the walls of segregation.

Something that's done in the right direction for the current system but not gathering enough momentum- to increase the joy of learning. Go on and get rid of assessment.
 

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Difficult to change the education system as the expectations from the Labour market is not changing...and the Finnish system is actually quite communist to say the least where you are told what you should study at an early age, however if u do well you can branch out to other specialities without a glass ceiling like our local medical schools..children from ages 7 to 12 is still much bout play and exploring.. however some form of benchmarking is still needed and of course the easy way out is to have exams
 

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Those who are parents here will realize that there is a huge disconnect between what is needed and what is taught, and what it taught at primary, secondary and tertiary education. What your kids learn in primary school (despite the mountains of homework) are completely obsolete when they go into secondary school. Nothing they learned was use; and that includes the Math. I seriously wonder what are the objectives MOE set out for themselves.
 

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Those who are parents here will realize that there is a huge disconnect between what is needed and what is taught, and what it taught at primary, secondary and tertiary education. What your kids learn in primary school (despite the mountains of homework) are completely obsolete when they go into secondary school. Nothing they learned was use; and that includes the Math. I seriously wonder what are the objectives MOE set out for themselves.
The objectives of MOE like all gahmen depts etc is to continue earning money at the tax payers expense n to maintain their iron rice bowl. They set up curriculum n change it etc to show that they are doing something etc. So continue getting paid. Education should always focus on the fundamentals. Maths n science n proper English. Spelling writing speaking. With a firm foundation children can learn more easily. But in schools the text books of the past were half fucked. Chalf fucked examples were used n the other half of the equation have to use tuition to fill in the gaps. N later emphasise on exams n hence require more tuition to cover the lapses of wat is taught at schools. That is singkieland education.
 

eatshitndie

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indian rich are already sending their kids to coding schools.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/10/india-coding-children-opportunity/
http://www.tynker.com/learn-to-code/india/prasad-vanga-1lec/2nd-grade-sehika-1g8j.html
http://www.codingzen.in
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We need to teach India’s children to code. Here’s why
The world is changing at such a fast pace that the high paying jobs of today did not even exist five years ago - and it’s hard to predict what kind of jobs we will be doing in another five years’ time.
The reason for this big change? Software.
Over the past three decades software has taken over our world, beginning with childhood. In India, as soon as a child gains a little understanding, the first things he or she is attracted to are the cellphones carried by their parents. They start playing games on them, watching cartoons or randomly calling people from dad’s contact list even before they have learned to speak. Some even learn to unlock the phone and navigate to their favourite app before their first birthday. But even a high school-age child has very little idea about what goes on behind the scenes of the websites and apps he or she uses on a regular basis. It is as if they have learned to read but not write.
Is it right that these young kids in schools remain uninformed, passive users of technology rather than actively taking part in creating it or understanding how it works?
Even though much has changed in India, today's hi-tech kids learn from the same books I used during my time at school 10 years ago. The Indian education system promotes rote learning, and this promotes conformism rather than curiosity in children.
How can we furnish kids with the necessary skills for the future? Many would argue that computing is already taught in schools. But computer science textbooks in Indian schools teach topics related to the history of computer science, hardware and operating systems, or some basic html. This knowledge is obsolete and has little relevance to contemporary technologies. How many Indian students leave their high school with a mastery of at least one of the major programming languages, or at the very least a familiarity with coding?
It’s true that that not everyone wants to become a coder or to work in IT. But learning to code is a tool which will help kids to understand and appreciate technology and expand their imagination. As Krishan Vedati, the founder of kids’ coding company Tynker, correctly says: “Coding doesn’t mean anything by itself — it’s just a language. Kids need to see it working with the real world and it means different things to different topics — in astronomy, science, even language arts.”
Learn from China
In my opinion, India can learn from China to help future generations thrive in the Fourth Industrial Revolution. The economy is changing; Chinese parents understand this well, and are putting a premium on teaching their children how to code. For Chinese parents, teaching kids to code has become as important as teaching them maths and Chinese. In fact, many Chinese children are exposed to coding even before they enter pre-school. Most Indian parents, on the other hand, are less well-informed and do not place enough emphasis on teaching their children how to write code unless they themselves are into IT.
Learning to code is not only about gaining skills for future jobs - it helps kids stretch their minds and teaches them critical and logical thinking. “Everyone should learn how to programme a computer, because it teaches you how to think.” It’s now 20 years since Steve Jobs said those words in an interview.
Next steps?
We need to prepare Indian schoolchildren to become creators of the future instead of its victims. Adding a fancy new subject to the curriculum will not help much, and neither will learning to code by glancing through books. Expecting kids to master computer science by reading books is similar to expecting them to master basketball by reading about the game's history. Rather, we should involve and engage them in coding in various ways from their very first day at school - perhaps by introducing it into little things they already love doing, like playing a video game, making a birthday card or inviting their friends over for a get-together.
More than half of India’s population is below the age of 25 and more than 65% is younger than 35. When the first Industrial Revolution spread across Europe and the Americas, India was colonised and missed the boat. Can India afford to miss the Fourth Industrial Revolution? India has a huge opportunity ahead to become the intellectual capital of the world - and coding can be its emancipator. India was once known as the ‘Golden Bird’; it’s high time we come together to ensure that India becomes the ‘Golden Coding Bird’.
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indian rich are already sending their kids to coding schools.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2017/10/india-coding-children-opportunity/
http://www.tynker.com/learn-to-code/india/prasad-vanga-1lec/2nd-grade-sehika-1g8j.html
http://www.codingzen.in
zdiOdrEimHOlCyZ9Tv91Pe_GHMSHstrw3agdW31jgp0.JPG


We need to teach India’s children to code. Here’s why
The world is changing at such a fast pace that the high paying jobs of today did not even exist five years ago - and it’s hard to predict what kind of jobs we will be doing in another five years’ time.
The reason for this big change? Software.
Over the past three decades software has taken over our world, beginning with childhood. In India, as soon as a child gains a little understanding, the first things he or she is attracted to are the cellphones carried by their parents. They start playing games on them, watching cartoons or randomly calling people from dad’s contact list even before they have learned to speak. Some even learn to unlock the phone and navigate to their favourite app before their first birthday. But even a high school-age child has very little idea about what goes on behind the scenes of the websites and apps he or she uses on a regular basis. It is as if they have learned to read but not write.
Is it right that these young kids in schools remain uninformed, passive users of technology rather than actively taking part in creating it or understanding how it works?
Even though much has changed in India, today's hi-tech kids learn from the same books I used during my time at school 10 years ago. The Indian education system promotes rote learning, and this promotes conformism rather than curiosity in children.
How can we furnish kids with the necessary skills for the future? Many would argue that computing is already taught in schools. But computer science textbooks in Indian schools teach topics related to the history of computer science, hardware and operating systems, or some basic html. This knowledge is obsolete and has little relevance to contemporary technologies. How many Indian students leave their high school with a mastery of at least one of the major programming languages, or at the very least a familiarity with coding?
It’s true that that not everyone wants to become a coder or to work in IT. But learning to code is a tool which will help kids to understand and appreciate technology and expand their imagination. As Krishan Vedati, the founder of kids’ coding company Tynker, correctly says: “Coding doesn’t mean anything by itself — it’s just a language. Kids need to see it working with the real world and it means different things to different topics — in astronomy, science, even language arts.”
Learn from China
In my opinion, India can learn from China to help future generations thrive in the Fourth Industrial Revolution. The economy is changing; Chinese parents understand this well, and are putting a premium on teaching their children how to code. For Chinese parents, teaching kids to code has become as important as teaching them maths and Chinese. In fact, many Chinese children are exposed to coding even before they enter pre-school. Most Indian parents, on the other hand, are less well-informed and do not place enough emphasis on teaching their children how to write code unless they themselves are into IT.
Learning to code is not only about gaining skills for future jobs - it helps kids stretch their minds and teaches them critical and logical thinking. “Everyone should learn how to programme a computer, because it teaches you how to think.” It’s now 20 years since Steve Jobs said those words in an interview.
Next steps?
We need to prepare Indian schoolchildren to become creators of the future instead of its victims. Adding a fancy new subject to the curriculum will not help much, and neither will learning to code by glancing through books. Expecting kids to master computer science by reading books is similar to expecting them to master basketball by reading about the game's history. Rather, we should involve and engage them in coding in various ways from their very first day at school - perhaps by introducing it into little things they already love doing, like playing a video game, making a birthday card or inviting their friends over for a get-together.
More than half of India’s population is below the age of 25 and more than 65% is younger than 35. When the first Industrial Revolution spread across Europe and the Americas, India was colonised and missed the boat. Can India afford to miss the Fourth Industrial Revolution? India has a huge opportunity ahead to become the intellectual capital of the world - and coding can be its emancipator. India was once known as the ‘Golden Bird’; it’s high time we come together to ensure that India becomes the ‘Golden Coding Bird’.
DB3dSLLDQtkrEyXH1qV4V2Zwx5AO_0k7c233zKub3rA.JPG
The problem with IT is schools always teach the old obsolete stuff. I was shocked that back in the late 90s NTU grads studied turbo Pascal. N when they went to work their skills were already obsolete. These lectures etc insists on teaching old stuff bcos they can't or don't have the skill to teach the new stuff.
 

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The problem with IT is schools always teach the old obsolete stuff. I was shocked that back in the late 90s NTU grads studied turbo Pascal. N when they went to work their skills were already obsolete. These lectures etc insists on teaching old stuff bcos they can't or don't have the skill to teach the new stuff.
that's why it's futile to learn from old established institutions and traditional methods of instruction. for 6.9th gen industrial revolution must learn from open source open classroom and online means. most of today's basic algorithms and subroutines that are tested, proven, and made highly repeatable (and relied upon) by expert users are already available as open source online. just invoke them when coding in higher programming language. it's like composing music and writing intelligent instructions for machines to mimic us. when kids learn logical steps to solve any problem, he can be a better problem solver for the real world. sinkie kids are book smart but street and hands on stupid. cannot solve real world problems. simple mechanical and electrical issues also don't know how to figure out. like fixing a fan, assembling a bike, or use the right transformer for a 120vac-only appliance. even providing free wi-fi at airport and resolving signaling issues on mrt also buay hiao. :rolleyes:
 

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that's why it's futile to learn from old established institutions and traditional methods of instruction. for 6.9th gen industrial revolution must learn from open source open classroom and online means. most of today's basic algorithms and subroutines that are tested, proven, and made highly repeatable (and relied upon) by expert users are already available as open source online. just invoke them when coding in higher programming language. it's like composing music and writing intelligent instructions for machines to mimic us. when kids learn logical steps to solve any problem, he can be a better problem solver for the real world. sinkie kids are book smart but street and hands on stupid. cannot solve real world problems. simple mechanical and electrical issues also don't know how to figure out. like fixing a fan, assembling a bike, or use the right transformer for a 120vac-only appliance. even providing free wi-fi at airport and resolving signaling issues on mrt also buay hiao. :rolleyes:
Book smart is wat pap needs. N it's always an easier yard stick of measurement. If not how to choose scholars n the next gen of jiak Liao bees?
 

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It's nothing short of the Cambrian explosion that I spoke of previously- to allow public funded schools to really experiment with smaller class sizes, different modes of teaching and learning, and fundamentally re-thinking the need for assessment.

Basic levels of appreciation for the aesthetics, arithmetics, command of langugages, logic and sciences shall remain at the primary school levels; with the addition of humanities at the secondary school levels.

Carry on with the standardised testing at the end of the academic year if you wish but that should really take a back seat or be subjugated as an insignificant figure. Discard the need for placements.

To move ahead, we need to break out of that traditional classroom mode and allowing collaboration across the classes as well as across the levels should be strongly encouraged.

Look at the real world, people from different cultures and age groups are coming together to forge ahead in a system. If Singapore needs to get ahead, take a leaf from the Finnish system, break down the walls of segregation.

Something that's done in the right direction for the current system but not gathering enough momentum- to increase the joy of learning. Go on and get rid of assessment.
KNN with your suggestions wise kopi geen na like my uncle used to be but poor academically has hopes to shine KNN
 

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If a parent spends close to SGD250k from Kindergarten to JC for tuition and enrichment pet child, no exams how??? Lol :biggrin:

MOE makes money from conducting the examinations. No exams/testing=No money.
MOE: Change what is to be tested. Replace the term "examination" with "Profiling". Announce examination is aboLEEshed.
 

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MOE makes money from conducting the examinations. No exams/testing=No money.
MOE: Change what is to be tested. Replace the term "examination" with "Profiling". Announce examination is aboLEEshed.
Expect more daft Chow Kia Soo parents to be scammed by enrichment companies...Lol :biggrin:
 

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KNN with your suggestions wise kopi geen na like my uncle used to be but poor academically has hopes to shine KNN

Yes, education should cater for growing different species of coffee plants, creating new and differing tastes of coffee drinks, or even how to make good coffee-money.
Of course, education should also not be limited to coffee or tea.
 

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Expect more daft Chow Kia Soo parents to be scammed by enrichment companies...Lol :biggrin:

Chow Kia Soo parents are made thus because of $$$elf-$$$erving PAP LEEders and LEEches.
Today's PCF kindergartens going Full-day bears true testimony of an incompetent ECDA [MOE-MSF], complacent PCF, opportunistic vendors and PAP-domesticated Chow Kia Soo parents.
This is today's PAP-manipulated Singapore.
 

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In BE no make money no biz. Make human suffer education with long tedious period to keep paying for life....
BE Education is like taking opium very profitable for the establishment with low cost of expenses and easy to grow. .

True words from an educationalist. E
Jucation for Life.
 

Kopi0Kosong

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Difficult to change the education system as the expectations from the Labour market is not changing...and the Finnish system is actually quite communist to say the least where you are told what you should study at an early age, however if u do well you can branch out to other specialities without a glass ceiling like our local medical schools..children from ages 7 to 12 is still much bout play and exploring.. however some form of benchmarking is still needed and of course the easy way out is to have exams

The question is 'Examination to test for ...?
There must be a paradigm shift in the mindset of the decision-makers and the people. With today's LEEders, it's unlikeLEE.
 
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