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Serious Hypertension or High Blood Pressure

Truth_Hurts

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Loyal
Switched to Sea Salt long time back, stop using refined cane sugar ( outside cant control) used Palm Sugars, used pure coconut oil & other good oils, never use palm oil, canola etc. have not used Magarine at home for many years, butter, but go easy.... Lard it seems contains Vitamin B...but too much lard is a problem too.
Animal fats is better than hydrogenated oils. I eat lard with my salads as the body needs the lard to digest the vegetables. But all things in moderation
 

halsey02

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Animal fats is better than hydrogenated oils. I eat lard with my salads as the body needs the lard to digest the vegetables. But all things in moderation

Where do you buy your lard here in Singapore? Pork lard, is not easy to get these days. I have been to Hong Kong & had check out the supermarkets there & found that, they have an extensive types of cooking oils & brands, whereas in any given NTUC brands supermarket, their cooking oils, seems to be the type, the suppliers giving them huge discounts to sell & is very limited in types & brands, this goes for the sauces too.

I manage to obtain a small bottle of pure coconut oil & chicken fats oil to try from the Philippines...the chicken fats oils to make Hainanese chicken rice...that chicken fats, give the rice the TASTE....all of course used in moderation.
 

Sir_Fcuk

Lunch Corporal
Loyal
  • After retirement I started exercising 5 days a week while still on medication and ended up with frequent dizzy spells. My blood pressure had dropped to 110/65. My doc asked me to try halving my dose but it was still too low.

I took up cycling. Best
 

Truth_Hurts

Alfrescian
Loyal
Where do you buy your lard here in Singapore? Pork lard, is not easy to get these days. I have been to Hong Kong & had check out the supermarkets there & found that, they have an extensive types of cooking oils & brands, whereas in any given NTUC brands supermarket, their cooking oils, seems to be the type, the suppliers giving them huge discounts to sell & is very limited in types & brands, this goes for the sauces too.

I manage to obtain a small bottle of pure coconut oil & chicken fats oil to try from the Philippines...the chicken fats oils to make Hainanese chicken rice...that chicken fats, give the rice the TASTE....all of course used in moderation.
Pork lard the best. I get it from the market. Maybe not the lard Inthe traditional sense. But the damn fat meat with skin. Than I slice and cut it up. No expensive. I like my fried lard with a bit of meat in it. Reminds me of eating pork knuckle... yummy
 

Truth_Hurts

Alfrescian
Loyal
Where do you buy your lard here in Singapore? Pork lard, is not easy to get these days. I have been to Hong Kong & had check out the supermarkets there & found that, they have an extensive types of cooking oils & brands, whereas in any given NTUC brands supermarket, their cooking oils, seems to be the type, the suppliers giving them huge discounts to sell & is very limited in types & brands, this goes for the sauces too.

I manage to obtain a small bottle of pure coconut oil & chicken fats oil to try from the Philippines...the chicken fats oils to make Hainanese chicken rice...that chicken fats, give the rice the TASTE....all of course used in moderation.


And I cook with butter as well. And good oils I use peanut for deep frying. But deep fry like once every 2 weeks. Cook other dishes use lard and butter. So i switch around to balance out demand. And for the good stuff have to buy at cold storage. NTUC like what u said is the bulk oil type. Just don't use vegetable oil. Palm oil I heard is good..and the orange colour is the beta carotene....those palm oils that are neutral in color means the beta carotene has been removed. Soo stupid. Another thing is use oil with high smoke points for cooking. That why canola oil etc is shit. 1st it's hydrogenated. 2nd it's low smoke point which means the oils become carcinogenic but now cooking oils I use less due to replacement with lards and butter.
 

SeeFartLoong

Alfrescian
Loyal
What I know is western medicine is useless for hypertension and they will tell you that you are condemned entire lifetime for hypertension.

The 1st thing Singaporean doctors will give you is the most standard cheapest medication = Amlodipine

For 40%~50% people this drug will cause foot / ankle swelling side effects.

https://www.healthline.com/health/amlodipine/oral-tablet

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swelling of your legs or ankles
  • hot or warm feeling in your face (flushing)
  • abnormal muscle movements
 

UltimaOnline

Alfrescian (InfP)
Generous Asset
Has anybody here been prescribed Norvasc for his/her hypertension?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amlodipine

Does it work? Any side effects?


Amlodipine is an example of a calcium channel blocker.

High blood pressure meds are categorized into : calcium channel blockers, angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors, beta blockers, angiotensin II receptor blockers, renin inhibitors, diuretics, alpha blockers, alpha-beta blockers, central-acting agents, vasodilators, aldosterone antagonists, etc.

For more info on the biochemical mechanism of how each category of meds work, as well as the common side effects of each, see : https://medshadow.org/features/heart-health-meds-risks-v-benefits/

As SeeFartLoong said, Amlodipine does have side effects (frequency and dose dependent, the more you take, the longer you take, the higher your risk of side effects), but so do ALL the other high blood pressure meds. Depending on your medical condition(s), your doctor (all these drugs are prescription only in Singapore, so you gotta see a doctor to get these anyway, don't risk buying online illegally, the drugs may not be safe) will decide on which of these blood pressure meds to prescribe you.

For example, if you have chest pain (angina), your doctor may recommend a beta blocker, which can lower your blood pressure and also prevent your chest pain, reduce your heart rate and decrease your risk of death. If you have diabetes and high blood pressure, taking a diuretic plus an ACE inhibitor can decrease your risk of a heart attack and stroke. If you have diabetes, high blood pressure and kidney disease, you may need an ACE inhibitor or an angiotensin II receptor blocker.

However, you (Asterix and AhMeng) may be interested to note that Amlodipine (and all CCBs in general... Ca2+ channel blockers lah, not hokkien) has a significant advantage over all the other types of blood pressure meds, in terms of protecting against stroke and myocardial infarction (which together with kidney failure, are the adverse outcomes of high blood pressure).

http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/50/4/e71
http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/50/4/e72
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16640170

Interestingly, and fortunately for some migraine suffers (if you suffer from chronic migraines, you know the pain can drive you suicidal), Amlodipine (and CCBs in general) have proven effective in preventing and relieving migraine headaches (which shouldn't be that surprising, as migraines and headaches are linked to abnormal blood pressure changes in the brain), at least for some types of migraines and headaches.

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=amlodipine+for+migraines
https://migraine.com/migraine-treatment/calcium-channel-blockers-to-prevent-migraine-headaches/

A non-prescription health supplement (that you can readily obtain in any pharmacy in Singapore) that is also helpful against *both* hypertension (high blood pressure) and migraines / headaches, and indeed should be taken by everyone, is magnesium. Of course, not the reduced Mg metal itself, but the oxidized Mg2+ salts or compounds, of which the choice of counter-anion does make a difference, depending on the specific beneficial health effects you seek, as the counter-anion can function as a chelating agent / ligand affecting the hydrophilicity / lipophilicity thus promoting the Mg2+ coordination complex in crossing the blood-brain barrier, for instance, among other mechanistic factors.

Magnesium threonate has nootropic effects, magnesium glycinate has anti-migraine / anti-headache effects, and all magnesium compounds have useful anti-constipation effects (both prevention and relief).

In addition to magnesium, there are other many other helpful supplements that are worth exploring to see if they work for your particular case of hypertension (differs from person to person as hypertension is as much a symptom as it is also simultaneously a disease).

An example would be Berberine, which is more commonly used by diabetics and pre-diabetics in lowering blood glucose levels, working similarly to Metformin (diabetes med), but without the side-effects. Berberine reduces both blood glucose and blood pressure.

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=berberine+for+blood+pressure

Check out the user reviews of each of the many blood pressure lowering supplements (including magnesium and Berberine, all sold on iHerb) :
https://sg.iherb.com/search?kw=blood+pressure

Another important matter of medical significance to explore, is that of the MTHFR (sounds like motherfucker so easy to remember, but it actually stands for MethyleneTetraHydroFolate Reductase) gene that transcribes and translates for the reductase enzyme. Various mutations on this and associated genes are common in human populations (naturally including Singaporeans), which have been linked to many medical conditions, either directly or indirectly.

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+gene+mutations

Diseases associated with MTHFR gene mutations (click on links to websites) :

"Coronary heart disease, high blood pressure, insomnia, anxiety disorders, cancer, stroke, heart disease, depression, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, miscarriages, migraines, etc"

And from another website :

"Coronary heart disease, stroke, blood clots, cancer, dementia, depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, etc."

You can go for genetic testing to determine your genotypes for the MTHFR and associated genes, which will support your understanding of your genetic and medical condition. MTHFR genetic conditions are discussed on health / medical forums such as Longecity and Phoenix Rising, in addition to Reddit :
https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+gene+longecity+phoenix+rising+forum

There are several modalities or pathways in which MTHFR gene mutations cause hypertension, which involves elevated homocysteine levels and depressed glutathione levels. This is worth educating yourself on, otherwise you're just treating the hypertension syndrome with 'Band-Aid' meds, rather than approaching the underlying MTHFR genetic condition with a whole-of-health approach (macam PAP's 'whole-of-government' catchphrase).

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+gene+high+blood+pressure

600px-MTHFR_metabolism.svg.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homocysteine

In addition, as shown above in the Wikipedia biochemical chart, the MTHFR enzyme works in the Folate cycle, so supplementing with the B vitamins (especially B9, but also B1, B2, B6 and B12) is crucial in approaching MTHFR genetic conditions.

But a word of caution here, as the correct form of vitamin B9 (L-Methylfolate vs Folic Acid v Folate) required will depend on your genotype. Do not anyhow buy vitamin B9 without taking this factor into consideration.

Educate yourself :
https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+L-Methylfolate+vs+Folic+Acid+v+Folate

Dr Ben Lynch explains the biochemistry underlying the different forms of methylfolate, and their MTHFR link :
http://mthfr.net/l-methylfolate-methylfolate-5-mthf/2012/04/05/

Methyl-Life website compares the various commercially patented trademark forms of Methylfolate available, specifically Quatrefolic® versus Metafolin® versus Extrafolate-S® versus Magnafolate-C™ :

newtable.jpg

https://methyl-life.com/methylfolate-types/

When buying on iHerb or Amazon, read carefully the ingredients and user reviews, and note which form of methylfolate is being reviewed, and/or which form worked better for the reviewer (some of whom have had experience across forms and brands).
 

Truth_Hurts

Alfrescian
Loyal
Amlodipine is an example of a calcium channel blocker.

High blood pressure meds are categorized into : calcium channel blockers, angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors, beta blockers, angiotensin II receptor blockers, renin inhibitors, diuretics, alpha blockers, alpha-beta blockers, central-acting agents, vasodilators, aldosterone antagonists, etc.

For more info on the biochemical mechanism of how each category of meds work, as well as the common side effects of each, see : https://medshadow.org/features/heart-health-meds-risks-v-benefits/

As SeeFartLoong said, Amlodipine does have side effects (frequency and dose dependent, the more you take, the longer you take, the higher your risk of side effects), but so do ALL the other high blood pressure meds. Depending on your medical condition(s), your doctor (all these drugs are prescription only in Singapore, so you gotta see a doctor to get these anyway, don't risk buying online illegally, the drugs may not be safe) will decide on which of these blood pressure meds to prescribe you.

For example, if you have chest pain (angina), your doctor may recommend a beta blocker, which can lower your blood pressure and also prevent your chest pain, reduce your heart rate and decrease your risk of death. If you have diabetes and high blood pressure, taking a diuretic plus an ACE inhibitor can decrease your risk of a heart attack and stroke. If you have diabetes, high blood pressure and kidney disease, you may need an ACE inhibitor or an angiotensin II receptor blocker.

However, you (Asterix and AhMeng) may be interested to note that Amlodipine (and all CCBs in general... Ca2+ channel blockers lah, not hokkien) has a significant advantage over all the other types of blood pressure meds, in terms of protecting against stroke and myocardial infarction (which together with kidney failure, are the adverse outcomes of high blood pressure).

http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/50/4/e71
http://hyper.ahajournals.org/content/50/4/e72
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16640170

Interestingly, and fortunately for some migraine suffers (if you suffer from chronic migraines, you know the pain can drive you suicidal), Amlodipine (and CCBs in general) have proven effective in preventing and relieving migraine headaches (which shouldn't be that surprising, as migraines and headaches are linked to abnormal blood pressure changes in the brain), at least for some types of migraines and headaches.

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=amlodipine+for+migraines
https://migraine.com/migraine-treatment/calcium-channel-blockers-to-prevent-migraine-headaches/

A non-prescription health supplement (that you can readily obtain in any pharmacy in Singapore) that is also helpful against *both* hypertension (high blood pressure) and migraines / headaches, and indeed should be taken by everyone, is magnesium. Of course, not the reduced Mg metal itself, but the oxidized Mg2+ salts or compounds, of which the choice of counter-anion does make a difference, depending on the specific beneficial health effects you seek, as the counter-anion can function as a chelating agent / ligand affecting the hydrophilicity / lipophilicity thus promoting the Mg2+ coordination complex in crossing the blood-brain barrier, for instance, among other mechanistic factors.

Magnesium threonate has nootropic effects, magnesium glycinate has anti-migraine / anti-headache effects, and all magnesium compounds have useful anti-constipation effects (both prevention and relief).

In addition to magnesium, there are other many other helpful supplements that are worth exploring to see if they work for your particular case of hypertension (differs from person to person as hypertension is as much a symptom as it is also simultaneously a disease).

An example would be Berberine, which is more commonly used by diabetics and pre-diabetics in lowering blood glucose levels, working similarly to Metformin (diabetes med), but without the side-effects. Berberine reduces both blood glucose and blood pressure.

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=berberine+for+blood+pressure

Check out the user reviews of each of the many blood pressure lowering supplements (including magnesium and Berberine, all sold on iHerb) :
https://sg.iherb.com/search?kw=blood+pressure

Another important matter of medical significance to explore, is that of the MTHFR (sounds like motherfucker so easy to remember, but it actually stands for MethyleneTetraHydroFolate Reductase) gene that transcribes and translates for the reductase enzyme. Various mutations on this and associated genes are common in human populations (naturally including Singaporeans), which have been linked to many medical conditions, either directly or indirectly.

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+gene+mutations

Diseases associated with MTHFR gene mutations (click on links to websites) :

"Coronary heart disease, high blood pressure, insomnia, anxiety disorders, cancer, stroke, heart disease, depression, Irritable Bowel Syndrome, miscarriages, migraines, etc"

And from another website :

"Coronary heart disease, stroke, blood clots, cancer, dementia, depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, etc."

You can go for genetic testing to determine your genotypes for the MTHFR and associated genes, which will support your understanding of your genetic and medical condition. MTHFR genetic conditions are discussed on health / medical forums such as Longecity and Phoenix Rising, in addition to Reddit :
https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+gene+longecity+phoenix+rising+forum

There are several modalities or pathways in which MTHFR gene mutations cause hypertension, which involves elevated homocysteine levels and depressed glutathione levels. This is worth educating yourself on, otherwise you're just treating the hypertension syndrome with 'Band-Aid' meds, rather than approaching the underlying MTHFR genetic condition with a whole-of-health approach (macam PAP's 'whole-of-government' catchphrase).

https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+gene+high+blood+pressure

600px-MTHFR_metabolism.svg.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homocysteine

In addition, as shown above in the Wikipedia biochemical chart, the MTHFR enzyme works in the Folate cycle, so supplementing with the B vitamins (especially B9, but also B1, B2, B6 and B12) is crucial in approaching MTHFR genetic conditions.

But a word of caution here, as the correct form of vitamin B9 (L-Methylfolate vs Folic Acid v Folate) required will depend on your genotype. Do not anyhow buy vitamin B9 without taking this factor into consideration.

Educate yourself :
https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=MTHFR+L-Methylfolate+vs+Folic+Acid+v+Folate

Dr Ben Lynch explains the biochemistry underlying the different forms of methylfolate, and their MTHFR link :
http://mthfr.net/l-methylfolate-methylfolate-5-mthf/2012/04/05/

Methyl-Life website compares the various commercially patented trademark forms of Methylfolate available, specifically Quatrefolic® versus Metafolin® versus Extrafolate-S® versus Magnafolate-C™ :

newtable.jpg

https://methyl-life.com/methylfolate-types/

When buying on iHerb or Amazon, read carefully the ingredients and user reviews, and note which form of methylfolate is being reviewed, and/or which form worked better for the reviewer (some of whom have had experience across forms and brands).
Oh yes..take magnesium.....and I tJe potassium too...but Dr told me potassium supplements not safe as it creates electrolyte problems. Not sure about that.
 

halsey02

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
And I cook with butter as well. And good oils I use peanut for deep frying. But deep fry like once every 2 weeks. Cook other dishes use lard and butter. So i switch around to balance out demand. And for the good stuff have to buy at cold storage. NTUC like what u said is the bulk oil type. Just don't use vegetable oil. Palm oil I heard is good..and the orange colour is the beta carotene....those palm oils that are neutral in color means the beta carotene has been removed. Soo stupid. Another thing is use oil with high smoke points for cooking. That why canola oil etc is shit. 1st it's hydrogenated. 2nd it's low smoke point which means the oils become carcinogenic but now cooking oils I use less due to replacement with lards and butter.

I use peanut oil to cook, butter sometime when necessary for the dish. Looking for a bottle of Peanut Oil is like looking for treasure at NTUC supermarket, anywhere else other than Singapore, it is found in abundant, even JB. NTUC seems to sell 'junk' oils..

When I was young, my family uses only vegetable oil to fry, Pigeon Brand Vegetable oils, it has a pleasant smell with a high smoke points, I can't find Pigeon Brand Oils anymore. As for lards, rarely use...From Cold Storage, you can find processed Lard in a bottle & quite expensive too...if you are doing quality cooking for oils & ingredients, Cold Storage is the place to look for stuff & mind you, you pay a lot for quality & fresher than NTUC.
 

halsey02

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
A couple of bananas a day provide all the potassium you need.

Too many bananas gives you cramps & they still have not figure out, how much is too much potassium we can consume in a day!? As for ladies, too many 'bananas' in a day, gives them cramps..in you ' know where'! too.
 

Leongsam

High Order Twit / Low SES subject
Admin
Asset
Too many bananas gives you cramps & they still have not figure out, how much is too much potassium we can consume in a day!? As for ladies, too many 'bananas' in a day, gives them cramps..in you ' know where'! too.

It's the other way round. LACK of potassium causes cramps. Bananas are high in potassium and reduce cramps.

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/muscle-cramp/symptoms-causes/syc-20350820

Causes
Overuse of a muscle, dehydration, muscle strain or simply holding a position for a prolonged period can cause a muscle cramp. In many cases, however, the cause isn't known.

Although most muscle cramps are harmless, some may be related to an underlying medical condition, such as:

  • Inadequate blood supply. Narrowing of the arteries that deliver blood to your legs (arteriosclerosis of the extremities) can produce cramp-like pain in your legs and feet while you're exercising. These cramps usually go away soon after you stop exercising.
  • Nerve compression. Compression of nerves in your spine (lumbar stenosis) also can produce cramp-like pain in your legs. The pain usually worsens the longer you walk. Walking in a slightly flexed position — such as you would use when pushing a shopping cart ahead of you — may improve or delay the onset of your symptoms.
  • Mineral depletion. Too little potassium, calcium or magnesium in your diet can contribute to leg cramps. Diuretics — medications often prescribed for high blood pressure — also can deplete these minerals.
 

Seee3

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Anybody tried sky fruit (mahogany fruit)? It is damn bitter. A close relative took it, and pressure reduced.

He took the raw form by powdering 1 or half a seed a day. I tried once, the bitterness and after taste is scary. He said there are many mahogany trees around bedok reservoir.
 

myfoot123

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Asset
A couple of bananas a day provide all the potassium you need.
Pure coconut drink, Arabia date, california prune, all these have high potassium. One very important high blood pressure and hypertension cure is to STOP READING NEWS FROM STRAITS TIMES!! It will help tremendously.
 

Truth_Hurts

Alfrescian
Loyal
What I know is western medicine is useless for hypertension and they will tell you that you are condemned entire lifetime for hypertension.

The 1st thing Singaporean doctors will give you is the most standard cheapest medication = Amlodipine

For 40%~50% people this drug will cause foot / ankle swelling side effects.

https://www.healthline.com/health/amlodipine/oral-tablet

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swelling of your legs or ankles
  • hot or warm feeling in your face (flushing)
  • abnormal muscle movements
Actually TCM is best for diabetes, hypertension and gout as the medication is not rough on the body and less side effects as compare to western medicine
 
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