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Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains!

JohnTan

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BRIDE-TO-BE, who bought a $1.58 million executive condominium loft unit, has to contend with rain coming in through the home's open-concept kitchen courtyard, which does not have proper windows nor grilles.

The 25-year-old, who bought her four-room Heron Bay apartment at Upper Serangoon View Road in 2012, claimed the kitchen's "window" - an opening - was not a proper window with glass panes and lacked grilles, Chinese newspaper Shin Min Daily News reported yesterday.

But the Heron Bay's developer told Shin Min that the owners' "claim of a purported missing window at their kitchen yard area is untrue", adding that the yards usually come with "just a parapet wall, and no windows, to allow for natural ventilation".

Shin Min visited the unit and found that its kitchen was unlike those of regular apartments, which have windows with glass panes and grilles. Instead, it resembled an open-concept balcony.

The bride-to-be's mother, Xie Meiying, a 55-year-old tuition teacher, told Shin Min that her daughter, who is getting married next month, got the keys to the apartment in November last year.

She had planned to move in last year, but rain entered the house through the open kitchen "window" during a heavy downpour on Christmas Eve, which left the living room wet.

Ms Xie, who added that a kitchen should rightly have a proper window, complained to the developer about the issue and the latter set up a covering with a metal rack and plastic sheet.

However, as it was unsightly, she requested for the developer to install proper windows.

Ms Xie's daughter has bought all the furniture for her new house, but has yet to have them delivered due to several unresolved issues.

Heron Bay's developer told Shin Min that open-concept kitchen courtyards are "very commonly found in private condos and executive condos".

The developer added that the owners had agreed, under the Sale and Purchase Agreement, not to affix or erect any shades, blinds, aerials, awnings, grilles, exhaust fans and the like to the exterior areas of the unit without the developer's prior written approval.

"Nevertheless, in view of the different needs of the owners, the management has given them the option to install their own windows and grilles," said the developer.

This option comes with detailed guidelines on the installation method. Such installations are considered part of the owners' own renovations.

Ms Xie also alleged that there are cracks on the unit's master bedroom walls, but the Building and Construction Authority (BCA) checked and verified that there are no structural cracks.

Ms Xie said that BCA, along with the developer's structural engineers, visited the house twice to perform checks.

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http://mypaper.sg/top-stories/wet-rooms-over-open-yard-158m-ec-20160212
 

lifeafter41

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BRIDE-TO-BE, who bought a $1.58 million executive condominium loft unit, has to contend with rain coming in through the home's open-concept kitchen courtyard, which does not have proper windows nor grilles.

The 25-year-old, who bought her four-room Heron Bay apartment at Upper Serangoon View Road in 2012, claimed the kitchen's "window" - an opening - was not a proper window with glass panes and lacked grilles, Chinese newspaper Shin Min Daily News reported yesterday.

But the Heron Bay's developer told Shin Min that the owners' "claim of a purported missing window at their kitchen yard area is untrue", adding that the yards usually come with "just a parapet wall, and no windows, to allow for natural ventilation".

Shin Min visited the unit and found that its kitchen was unlike those of regular apartments, which have windows with glass panes and grilles. Instead, it resembled an open-concept balcony.

The bride-to-be's mother, Xie Meiying, a 55-year-old tuition teacher, told Shin Min that her daughter, who is getting married next month, got the keys to the apartment in November last year.

She had planned to move in last year, but rain entered the house through the open kitchen "window" during a heavy downpour on Christmas Eve, which left the living room wet.

Ms Xie, who added that a kitchen should rightly have a proper window, complained to the developer about the issue and the latter set up a covering with a metal rack and plastic sheet.

However, as it was unsightly, she requested for the developer to install proper windows.

Ms Xie's daughter has bought all the furniture for her new house, but has yet to have them delivered due to several unresolved issues.

Heron Bay's developer told Shin Min that open-concept kitchen courtyards are "very commonly found in private condos and executive condos".

The developer added that the owners had agreed, under the Sale and Purchase Agreement, not to affix or erect any shades, blinds, aerials, awnings, grilles, exhaust fans and the like to the exterior areas of the unit without the developer's prior written approval.

"Nevertheless, in view of the different needs of the owners, the management has given them the option to install their own windows and grilles," said the developer.

This option comes with detailed guidelines on the installation method. Such installations are considered part of the owners' own renovations.

Ms Xie also alleged that there are cracks on the unit's master bedroom walls, but the Building and Construction Authority (BCA) checked and verified that there are no structural cracks.

Ms Xie said that BCA, along with the developer's structural engineers, visited the house twice to perform checks.

[email protected]

http://mypaper.sg/top-stories/wet-rooms-over-open-yard-158m-ec-20160212

At age 25 can buy a 1.58 million dollars with the husband really put me to shame, even lifeafter41 can only afford hdb......... Open concept kitchen or not
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

free ponding after every rain,what more does she want?apa ini cinta mahu?
 

tonychat

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At age 25 can buy a 1.58 million dollars with the husband really put me to shame, even lifeafter41 can only afford hdb......... Open concept kitchen or not

There is nothing to be shameful about.. the problem is not the couple, the problem is why do you attached your achievement based on money?

take it easy and live the life your way.
 

eatshitndie

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

they market the "open-concept kitchen" too loosely. "open-concept" doesn't mean open to the outdoors. that's referred to as a partial-outdoor kitchen. this is an open-concept kitchen, where the kitchen is fully indoors but open to the living and dining or great room.

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eatshitndie

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partial-outdoor kitchen.....

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eatshitndie

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

this is a fully outdoor kitchen with cover.

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ginfreely

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

It's true usually the condo yard has no window. However, in the past the yard is a separate area and comes with a door and/or window to segregate the yard and kitchen area. So even if the rain come in, it will not reach other area like kitchen and living room. But it is true owner can install window at the yard for themselves and developer don't pay for the window.
 

Froggy

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

May I borrow this phrase from SBF for this owner -

GONG JEEBYE!
 

Narong Wongwan

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

The developer must be some pap cronies
 

eatshitndie

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

i thought it looked more like outdoor bbq pit.... ... but then i doubt it would sell well if that was the sales pitch then.

in california where the weather is almost perfect everyday, outdoor kitchens are the way to go: bbq grill, range top with at least 2 burners, sink, fridge, much counter space for food prep and serving, and wood burning pizza oven in some cases. for homes with ample backyard space, it sells very well. in fact, wealthy buyers want homes with huge yards to cum ready with complete outdoor kitchens on the brochure.

this has a built-in oven.

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eatshitndie

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

this one cums with wood-burning brick-laden pizza oven centerpiece.

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SgParent

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"open-concept" doesn't mean open to the outdoors. that's referred to as a partial-outdoor kitchen.View attachment 25586

i thought the ec aka overpriced hdb kitchen looked more like outdoor bbq pit.... ... but then i doubt it would sell well if that was the sales pitch then.
 

rambo22

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Huat ar

my ah mah say if water cum into the house is gd feng shui

thk u to hdb gao gao
 

Papsmearer

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

The obvious thing to do for this woman is to check the other neighbours with similar floor plans. Not likely that her floorplan and lay out is unique in the whole building. What about those other units with similar "open" kitchens? Do they have the same ponding issues? If they do, then all the owners should go as a group to complain to the developer and HDB. If she is the only one experiencing this problem, then perhaps the fault lies with her. If a group goes, the developer will be more receptive to their complains.
 

Froggy

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

this one cums with wood-burning brick-laden pizza oven centerpiece.

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My preference is this type of oven, can make naan and tandori

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Rygar

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

who did the moron vote for?
 

ginfreely

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Re: Moron Buys "Open-Concept" Kitchen Condo For $1.5M. Flat Now Wet Whenever It Rains

The obvious thing to do for this woman is to check the other neighbours with similar floor plans. Not likely that her floorplan and lay out is unique in the whole building. What about those other units with similar "open" kitchens? Do they have the same ponding issues? If they do, then all the owners should go as a group to complain to the developer and HDB. If she is the only one experiencing this problem, then perhaps the fault lies with her. If a group goes, the developer will be more receptive to their complains.

Her unit probably high floor near the roof, more susceptible to rain water blown in by the wind than lower floor units.
 
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