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MAS / Singapore Fall from Grace ?

scroobal

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Is this the wateshed where the country has decided to begin the downward journey to ruin.

Here are the simple facts
1. 20 banks
2. 133 bankers
3. 4 years
4. Manipulating of SIBOR after Barclays debacle over LIBOR came to light.

This is setting of daily rates for the Singapore dollar by a "panel" under the auspices of the local banking association and MAS. Manipulation means that the outcome of the rate is certain or fairly certain and those who are in the know can take positions with much reduced risk in a multitude of financial instruments. This means that those not in the know are disadvantaged - in essence this particular horse race is rigged to high heaven over 4 years.

So what does MAS and Singapore who are world renown for strict enforcement and white than white image of high standards when it comes to many things particularly commerce and international trade do?

Here is what happened.

1. They found nothing criminal in this whole episode. And someone is going to spend 6 months in jail for getting a blowjob from 49 year old aunty.

2. Just in case you are in total shock and have gone catatonic, yes, nothing criminal found.

3. No bank has been fined, sanctioned or disciplined.

4. And this must be most innovative act ever - capital reserves to be increased for one year, interest free, to be placed with MAS. Lets face it this is not a penalty or sanction. This is analogous to someone renting an apartment and the landlord wants an additional deposit to cover pets.

5. Bank staff dismissed, disciplined etc. So does this mean that only bank staff benefitted and not the banks. The question on people's mind is that did these "dismissed" staff end up in different banks as part of a well organised musical chairs courtesy of the expat community. I have told some interesting things.

6. By the way Briton announced that it plans to criminally prosecute those that manipulated the LIBOR. Investigations are still in progress.

What now brown cow?
 

PrinceCharming

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In this day and age where people in other countries access the internet at blazing speeds and news travel faster than your Ferrari and Lamborghini, I am surprised to learn that MAS and LEEgime are under the impression they can fool the gullible. Alas, the only people they think they fool are themselves.

I take comfort in the knowledge that people all over the world are sniggering at the feeble attempts by MAS to explain their own failings.
 

lee6100

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Many of these bankers are ang mos. Our MIWs never have the balls to prosecute ang mos.
Whilst some ang mos have gone to jail for crimes, most of the time double standards are practiced.
Remember this in 2016.
 

Confuseous

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The manner of the resolution is so lame but everyone put on a bold front to make it look like we have solved a problem where others have not been able to.
Shades of North Korea.
 

halsey02

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I was quite surprised to read this actually. From what I know M.A.S. watches Local Money Market (LMM), SIBOR, Forex rates..worse than a HAWK. Any miniscule variation or abnormalities etc..they will spot it immediately. For these traders to collude, & in those numbers, this is frightening. Has M.A.S. allowed the markets to drift so loosely? or has M.A.S. is no longer sharp anymore? or proficient but not efficient, infected by the sickness of the people in government? Maybe, the masala, doshi, naan people, are too smart for M.A.S.?? who knows??:p
 

tanwahp

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I was quite surprised to read this actually. From what I know M.A.S. watches Local Money Market (LMM), SIBOR, Forex rates..worse than a HAWK. Any miniscule variation or abnormalities etc..they will spot it immediately. For these traders to collude, & in those numbers, this is frightening. Has M.A.S. allowed the markets to drift so loosely? or has M.A.S. is no longer sharp anymore? or proficient but not efficient, infected by the sickness of the people in government? Maybe, the masala, doshi, naan people, are too smart for M.A.S.?? who knows??:p

You will be surprised that the quality of governance in Singapore is falling behind our backs until the mistakes are exposed. SPF (failure to clamp down on certain crime), NParks (Brompton), MOT (breakdowns due to non maintenance), NEA (fighting wrong battles), HDB (poor management), SCDF and CNB (bad chiefs), MDA (some lousy internet license idea), and now MOF.

We are becoming like "any other Asian country".
 

watchman8

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What's new from MAS? Lehman mini bonds and now this is or fixing crime.

The bankers and rich get off scot free. The law only applies to the man on the street.
 

scroobal

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You are spot on. I had the same impression. In the past I am aware that MAS has an eagle on SIngapore dollar movement by traders and have previously acted on them. They keep a personal file of each trader. I know of cases where traders have been sacked on front running on SIngapore dollar trades.

I was quite surprised to read this actually. From what I know M.A.S. watches Local Money Market (LMM), SIBOR, Forex rates..worse than a HAWK. Any miniscule variation or abnormalities etc..they will spot it immediately. For these traders to collude, & in those numbers, this is frightening. Has M.A.S. allowed the markets to drift so loosely? or has M.A.S. is no longer sharp anymore? or proficient but not efficient, infected by the sickness of the people in government? Maybe, the masala, doshi, naan people, are too smart for M.A.S.?? who knows??:p
 

scroobal

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Agree. I have seen it so many times. I know of senior bosses panic and send in their juniors when handling angmos.

Many of these bankers are ang mos. Our MIWs never have the balls to prosecute ang mos.
Whilst some ang mos have gone to jail for crimes, most of the time double standards are practiced.
Remember this in 2016.
 

jw5

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don't pitchah lobang bro, people trying act intelligent and suave.

Yes absolutely agree, spot on, you hit the mark with this, you are trying to act intelligent and suave like the pompous ass you are.
 

halsey02

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You are spot on. I had the same impression. In the past I am aware that MAS has an eagle on SIngapore dollar movement by traders and have previously acted on them. They keep a personal file of each trader. I know of cases where traders have been sacked on front running on SIngapore dollar trades.

It was very stringent in the past to get a dealer's license & like you have mentioned M.A.S. have files not only on the traders, but the dept heads & so forth. Had they been too lax of late on that, or have they issued too many DR license?? as in globalization!!

It was not easy to manipulate the rates...any rates here to that effect, even trades whether spot or future or anything else. Try, playing punks on Local Money Market for example...the first daylight, the top man of the financial house or bank or..will be summoned to the 'execution chamber' heh heh heh

But with so many colluding, 'darkness' must have fallen upon M.A.S., in the past, it was "white smoke" as in Baring etc..so transparent that they could not see... ha ha ha

I get the feeling that the markets are getting too big & complicated for M.A.S. to manage, I don't think they are inefficient, just too many 'holes' in the 'dykes'..maybe. But if the 'retaining wall' to the dykes collapse...I shudder.
 
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jw5

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Yes absolutely agree, spot on, you hit the mark with this, you are trying to act intelligent and suave like the pompous ass you are.

scroobal stopped posting on 3 July 2013.

This was just one of Many examples where I called him Mark. Dated 16 June 2013.

LOL.
 

neddy

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scroobal stopped posting on 3 July 2013.

This was just one of Many examples where I called him Mark. Dated 16 June 2013.

LOL.

Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant.
For someone who have been so active in this forum, and then suddenly stop posting. I wondered why.
You exposed him!!!
 
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jw5

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Brilliant! Absolutely brilliant.
For someone who have been so active in this forum, and then suddenly stop posting. I wondered why.
You exposed him!!!

What I did was to let him know before 3 July 2013 that his identity was no longer a secret. I didn't expose him then, because only he would know who I was referring to. He voluntarily chose to stop posting with that nickname, rather than stop posting in a derogatory manner. That was his choice.

It's now Feb 2014, and I have now exposed him, because he and his real life crony still continued to post derogatory comments in this forum, despite my repeated warnings to them. The derogatory comments and harrassment have continued, and so I'll continue to fuck around with them until they stop.

So far those monikers continuing the derogatory comments and harrassment include the following:
-- scroobal
-- ThickFaceBlackHeart
-- B Man
-- JHolmesJr
-- Debonerman
-- FuckSamLeong
-- Hawkeye1819
 

Leongsam

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What I did was to let him know before 3 July 2013 that his identity was no longer a secret. I didn't expose him then, because only he would know who I was referring to. He voluntarily chose to stop posting with that nickname, rather than stop posting in a derogatory manner. That was his choice.

It's now Feb 2014, and I have now exposed him, because he and his real life crony still continued to post derogatory comments in this forum, despite my repeated warnings to them. The derogatory comments and harrassment have continued, and so I'll continue to fuck around with them until they stop.

So far those monikers continuing the derogatory comments and harrassment include the following:
-- scroobal
-- ThickFaceBlackHeart
-- B Man
-- JHolmesJr
-- Debonerman
-- FuckSamLeong
-- Hawkeye1819

What about all the harassment that some members of heaped upon me? When are you going to deal with them? For example escher who is constantly asking me to stick my head in a shit bucket used by 50 Banglas.

I can't take it anymore and am close to suicide from from the constant attack. I need a knight in shining armor to come to my rescue.
 

JossSticksCandleWax

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What about all the harassment that some members of heaped upon me? When are you going to deal with them? For example escher who is constantly asking me to stick my head in a shit bucket used by 50 Banglas.

I can't take it anymore and am close to suicide from from the constant attack. I need a knight in shining armor to come to my rescue.

You are such a wimp. A noted forummer got fucked by many animals from the Night Safari and suicide never even crossed his mind.

Go drink more soursop juice and grow a pair of balls.

And by the way, a Prosperous Happy Lunar New Year to you :kma:
 

tanwahtiu

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Singapore under ONE Party rule PAP is aka prostitute everything and can see how many times they repeatedly cheapsake themselves to the core.

Take for example, Thailand top prostitution with ladies sitting in rows behind glass panel room and you can choose them. Cheapsake PAP allow this to start in Geylang and flourish the CB kuay biz with busload of Thai girls entering Singapore everyday.

Cant see why they prostitute themselves to the angmoh money engineers ( so call financial professionals).



I was quite surprised to read this actually. From what I know M.A.S. watches Local Money Market (LMM), SIBOR, Forex rates..worse than a HAWK. Any miniscule variation or abnormalities etc..they will spot it immediately. For these traders to collude, & in those numbers, this is frightening. Has M.A.S. allowed the markets to drift so loosely? or has M.A.S. is no longer sharp anymore? or proficient but not efficient, infected by the sickness of the people in government? Maybe, the masala, doshi, naan people, are too smart for M.A.S.?? who knows??:p
 
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