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USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads warmed

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http://www.politico.com/story/2013/...g-air-defense-zone-east-china-sea-100698.html

China gives no ground to Joe Biden in air zone dispute




Joe Biden (left) and Xi Jinping are shown. | AP Photo

China's recent moves have 'caused significant apprehension in the region,' Biden says. | AP Photo
By ASSOCIATED PRESS | 12/4/13 10:43 PM EST Updated: 12/5/13 6:09 AM EST

BEIJING (AP) — Giving no ground, Chinese President Xi Jinping and U.S. Vice President Joe Biden traded strong arguments Wednesday over China's contentious new air defense zone, with little indication of progress toward defusing a situation that is raising anxieties across Asia and beyond.

Though Biden made clear the deep concern of the U.S. and other countries during the 5 ½ hours of talks — themselves highly unusual for an American vice president and Chinese president — Xi vigorously made his case, too, for China's declaration of new rules concerning a strip of airspace more than 600 miles long above disputed islands in the East China Sea.
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Speaking to American business leaders here the next morning, Biden said he had been "very direct" about the firm U.S. position and Washington's expectations for Beijing in his conversation with Xi.

"China's recent and sudden announcement of a new air defense identification zone has, to state the obvious, caused significant apprehension in the region," Biden said.

But Biden said he also put the issue in a broader context when he met with Chinese leaders. As China's economy grows, its stake in regional security grows, too, because China will have more to lose. "That's why China will bear increasing responsibility to contribute positively to peace and security," he said.

The U.S. worries that China's demand that pilots entering the airspace file flight plans with Beijing could lead to an accident or a confrontation spiraling dangerously out of control. Now it is up to the Chinese to take steps to lower tensions, and "it's a question of behavior and action," said a U.S. official, who briefed reporters on the private talks.

The official was not authorized to be quoted by name and spoke only on condition of anonymity.

Though Biden expressed no disappointment publicly, the outcome of his visit was not what the U.S. might have hoped for.

Earlier in the week, the vice president had stood shoulder to shoulder in Tokyo with the leader of Japan, China's regional rival, pledging to raise Washington's concerns with Xi directly. But as he arrived in Beijing, an editorial in the state-run China Daily charged Washington with "turning a blind eye to Tokyo's provocations," warning that Biden would hit a dead end should he come "simply to repeat his government's previous erroneous and one-sided remarks."

Echoing Biden's concerns from Washington, Defense Secretary Chuck Hagel called China's announcement of the zone "destabilizing," complaining that it came without consultation. "That's not a wise course of action to take for any country," Hagel said at a Pentagon news conference.

Neither Biden nor Xi mentioned the dispute as they appeared briefly before reporters during the talks. But in private, the issue came up at length at the beginning and again near the end of the long-planned meeting, which also focused heavily on concerns about North Korea's nuclear program, senior Obama administration officials said.

The typically upbeat Biden appeared subdued Wednesday evening as he reflected on the complexity of the relationship between China and the U.S., two world powers seeking closer ties despite wide ideological gulfs they have as of yet been unable to bridge.

"This new model of major-country cooperation ultimately has to be based on trust, and a positive notion about the motive of one another," Biden said, flanked by top advisers in a resplendent meeting room steps away from Tiananmen Square.

The calibrated public comments played down the deep strains permeating the relationship between the world's two largest economies.

Earlier, however, Biden told Chinese youngsters waiting to get visitor visas processed at the U.S. Embassy that American children are rewarded rather than punished for challenging the status quo, an implicit criticism of the Chinese government's authoritarian rule.

"I hope you learn that innovation can only occur where you can breathe free, challenge the government, challenge religious leaders," Biden said.

Xi, for his part, stuck to the script — at least in public. The Chinese leader touted the benefits of closer U.S.-China ties as he laid out "profound and complex changes" underway in Asia and across the globe.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

Soon can be put to good use the missiles and warheads that had been stored cold for too long. Before the expiry date better use them, don't waste these good toys. :D

Lots of tax payers dollars you know?
 
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Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

I'm eagerly waiting for fireworks to light up in that conflicting region soon. China must be taught a painful lesson for this provocation, but I also believe that the US will tolerate till the last resort because Obama will not be able to answer to Congress should China starts to impose restrictions and impede the operations of those US conglomerates in China.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

US are so full of shit, it will implode, better still japan get hit with a few more 8 and above Earthquakes and Tsunamis.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

bankrupt US wayang only.

China has better military weapons yet to bomb at UAssA.

I'm eagerly waiting for fireworks to light up in that conflicting region soon. China must be taught a painful lesson for this provocation, but I also believe that the US will tolerate till the last resort because Obama will not be able to answer to Congress should China starts to impose restrictions and impede the operations of those US conglomerates in China.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

I'm eagerly waiting for fireworks to light up in that conflicting region soon. China must be taught a painful lesson for this provocation, but I also believe that the US will tolerate till the last resort because Obama will not be able to answer to Congress should China starts to impose restrictions and impede the operations of those US conglomerates in China.

Japanese will be taught a very painful lesson. So will USA

I will be proud of that as I relate more with China than with smear of shit on sole of shoe LKY Stinkapore.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

What's the big deal? Korea has its own ADIZ, so do Japan and Taiwan. (All drawn up by the USA of course.)

So why can't China draw up its own ADIZ? Or is the ADIZ the privilege of US allies only?

People who support the US blindly should take a step back and see the unilateral bullying that the US inflicts on those not in its camp. It's power politics, and China is just learning the ropes from the grandmaster of them all.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

come let there be nuclear war.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

China would be fighting the US in its own backyard. the US would find it very difficult to militarily defeat China.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

China would be fighting the US in its own backyard. the US would find it very difficult to militarily defeat China.

"Anyone in favour of sending American ground forces to fight on Chinese soil should have his head examined." – ​Douglas MacArthur
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

PRC must whack largest H-BOMB into the volcanic cavity of Mount Fuji. Trigger the mother of all erruption and quakes and tsunami. Sink the fucking Japan until the volcanic ash stop emmerging. Otherwise no sun light.


The Fuji cavity is the anus of the Japs. The MUST WHACK DEADLY ACCUPUNTURE POINT.
 
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PRC must whack largest H-BOMB into the volcanic cavity of Mount Fuji. Trigger the mother of all erruption and quakes and tsunami. Sink the fucking Japan until the volcanic ash stop emmerging. Otherwise no sun light.


The Fuji cavity is the anus of the Japs. The MUST WHACK DEADLY ACCUPUNTURE POINT.

Naah!

I like Mount Fuji. I climbed that.

It is too beautiful a mountain to nuke.
See this and rethink your choice of place to nuke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-six_Views_of_Mount_Fuji
 
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Naah!

I like Mount Fuji. I climbed that.

It is too beautiful a mountain to nuke.
See this and rethink your choice of place to nuke.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-six_Views_of_Mount_Fuji

It is a giant volcano you have to let it do the function of blasting. Same to th Mt St Hellen of Washington state. H-bomb it the coastline of Amarican continent will be modified permanantly, more to the oceans.
 
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It is a giant volcano you have to let it do the function of blasting. Same to th Mt St Hellen of Washington state. H-bomb it the coastline of Amarican continent will be modified permanantly, more to the oceans.

Alamak!

Wrong URL of Mt Fuji
This was the one I wanted to post

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty-six_Views_of_Mount_Fuji_(Hiroshige)

Japan got many mountains. Go pick anyone but Mt Fuji
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

Got to be a better man atau apa?:confused:
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

Psychological warfare.
Fuji is Japs icon, must whack. It's their asshole.

Whack their arseholes.
Roger their arseholes
Screw their arseholes even.
Nuke their arseholes.

Let Mt Fuji be.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

What a joke. Pay the dog to bite oneself? If China pull back their funds, Obama salary this month will be delayed indefinitely.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

WASHINGTON - The United States must build stronger military-to-military ties with China despite their differences on issues such as China's recent establishment of an air defense identification zone (ADIZ) over the East China Sea, said US Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Martin Dempsey on Thursday.

"So as the dynamics in the region continue to change, we must build stronger military-to-military relationships with the (Chinese military). We must seek avenues and mechanisms to avoid miscalculation," Dempsey said in answering questions while hosting his first town hall on Facebook.

While reiterating that the United States does not recognize the ADIZ and US military aircraft will continue to fly in the area, Dempsey admitted that he understood why China took the act to establish the ADIZ over the East China Sea.

"From a realist perspective, nations will act in their interests all the time. China is no different," the top US military officer said, hoping the dispute will be solved peacefully.
 
Re: USA sent vice president to Beijing for Pre-War Quarrel, missiles and warheads war

War is good. Peace is Chee Bye.
 
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