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Savers for Popular Bank of Cyprus (Laiki) just rape by troika

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Under the new EU rescue

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Anyone with deposit of 100 000 Euro, fund will be freeze by the government of Cyprus and used to compensate depositor of less than 100 000 Euro and all the expenditure to wind down the banks slowly. Like compensating all the employees of the closed bank. It is the worse nightmare for savers.

So, those savers cannot get their money, since parliament frozen their account and they can technically lose all their money.

You want to see a bank run on the other banks in cyprus, you will see it soon, when they reopened this week.

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Cyprus clinched a last-ditch deal with international lenders on Monday for a 10 billion euro bailout that will shut down its second largest bank and inflict heavy losses on uninsured depositors, including wealthy Russians.

The agreement emerged after fraught negotiations between President Nicos Anastasiades and heads of the European Union, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund - hours before a deadline to avert a collapse of the banking system.

The plan, swiftly endorsed by euro zone finance ministers, will spare the east Mediterranean island a financial meltdown by winding down Popular Bank of Cyprus (CPBC.CY), also known as Laiki, and shifting deposits below 100,000 euros to the Bank of Cyprus (BOC.CY) to create a "good bank".

Deposits above 100,000 euros, which under EU law are not guaranteed, will be frozen and used to resolve debts, and Laiki will effectively be shuttered, with thousands of job losses.

An EU spokesman said no levy would be imposed on any deposits in Cypriot banks. A first attempt at a deal last week collapsed when the Cypriot parliament rejected a proposed levy on all deposits.

A senior source involved in the talks said Anastasiades had threatened to resign at one stage if he was pushed too far.

EU diplomats said the president, flown to Brussels in a private jet chartered by the European Commission, had fought to preserve the country's business model as an offshore financial centre drawing huge sums from wealthy Russians and Britons.

The key issues in dispute were how Cyprus would raise 5.8 billion euros from its banking sector towards its own financial rescue, and how to restructure and resolve the outsized banks.

The EU's economic affairs chief Olli Rehn said there were no good options but "only hard choices left" for the latest casualty of the euro zone crisis.

With banks closed for the last week, the Central Bank of Cyprus imposed a 100-euros per day limit on withdrawals from cash machines at the two biggest banks to avert a run.

French Finance Minister Pierre Moscovici rejected charges that the EU had brought Cypriots to their knees, saying it was the island's offshore business model that had failed.

"To all those who say that we are strangling an entire people ... Cyprus is a casino economy that was on the brink of bankruptcy," he told Canal Plus television.

The euro gained against the dollar on the news in early Asian trading.

Analysts had said failure to clinch a deal could cause a financial market selloff, but some said the island's small size - it accounts for just 0.2 percent of the euro zone's economic output - meant contagion would be limited.

The abandoned levy on bank deposits had unsettled investors since it represented an unprecedented step in Europe's handling of a debt crisis that has spread from Greece, to Ireland, Portugal, Spain and Italy.

ANXIOUS MOOD

In the Cypriot capital, Nicosia, on Sunday the mood was anxious.

"I haven't felt so uncertain about the future since I was 13 and Cyprus was invaded," said Dora Giorgali, 53, a nursery teacher who lost her job two years ago when the school she worked at closed down.

"I have two children studying abroad and I tell them not to return to Cyprus. Imagine a mother saying that," she said in a central Nicosia square. "I think a solution will be found tonight but it won't be in the best interests of our country."

Cyprus's banking sector, with assets eight times the size of its economy, has been crippled by exposure to Greece, where private bondholders suffered a 75 percent "haircut" last year.

Without a deal by the end of Monday, the ECB said it would cut off emergency funds to the banks, spelling certain collapse and potentially pushing the country out of the euro.

Conservative leader Anastasiades, barely a month in office and wrestling with Cyprus' worst crisis since a 1974 invasion by Turkish forces split the island in two, was forced to back down on his efforts to shield big account holders.

Anticipating a run when banks reopen on Tuesday, parliament has given the government powers to impose capital controls.

Cyprus bank tax calculator: here

Euro periphery bank deposits link.reuters.com/vep58s

Cyprus deposits graphic link.reuters.com/fuf76t

PARLIAMENT

About 200 bank employees protested outside the presidential palace on Sunday chanting "troika out of Cyprus" and "Cyprus will not become a protectorate".

In a stunning vote on Tuesday, the 56-seat parliament rejected a levy on depositors, big and small. Finance Minister Michael Sarris then spent three fruitless days in Moscow trying to win help from Russia, whose citizens and companies have billions of euros at stake in Cypriot banks.

On Friday, lawmakers voted to nationalise pension funds and split failing lenders into good and bad banks - the measure likely to be applied to Laiki. The plan to tap pension funds was shelved due to German opposition, a Cypriot official said.

The revised bailout plan many not require further parliamentary approval since the idea of a levy was dropped.

The tottering banks hold 68 billion euros in deposits, including 38 billion in accounts of more than 100,000 euros - enormous sums for an island of 1.1 million people which could never sustain such a big financial system on its own.
 
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Interest rate by Laiki bank, twice the rate of other major european bank.
 
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Laiki Bank was founded in 1901 as a small savings bank and today has grown into a strong international financial organisation.

Today the Group has a presence in 9 countries: Cyprus, Greece, the United Kingdom, Ukraine, Russia, Romania, Serbia, Malta and China.

It operates 439 branches and employs 8.464 staff, servicing a total of 1.350.000 customers.

It offers services to private individuals, corporate and commercial banking, Private Banking, Treasury, Electronic Banking, Factoring, Financing and Leasing, International Banking Services, Shipping Services, Insurance Services, Stock broking and Capital Management.

With awards for technical innovation, and a focus on its customers and on its people, Laiki Bank is more than just a bank.

Laiki Bank is headquartered in Cyprus and operates under the control and supervision of the Central Bank of Cyprus.
 
Cyprus Popular Bank (formerly known as Marfin Popular Bank) is the second largest banking group in Cyprus behind the Bank of Cyprus. Trading on the island as Laiki Bank (Laiki being the Greek word for Popular), as of September 2012 it holds a 16% share of the market in loans and a 14.4% share of deposits. It is 84% state owned since 30 June 2012. [3] Its shares are listed on the Cyprus Stock Exchange [4] and the Athens Stock Exchange.
CPB had a network of more than 295 branches in Cyprus, Russia, Ukraine, Romania, Serbia, the UK and Malta. The bank has applied to open a representative office in Beijing, People's Republic of China.
In 2007, the bank announced a multi-million financial deal to sponsor the football First Division in Cyprus until 2010. [5]
In 2010, they launched a new mobile banking and mobile trading service. In the same year, the company was selected as the bank of the year in Cyprus by the Banker.
 
bye bye laiki bank

Cyprus Popular Bank Public Co. Ltd
Type Publicly traded limited company
Traded as CSE: CPB, Athex: CPBANK
Industry Financial services
Founded 1901
Headquarters Nicosia, Cyprus
Area served Cyprus, UK, Romania, Serbia, Russia, Ukraine, Malta
Key people
Takis Phidia (CEO),
Andreas Philippou (Chairman)
Products Banking, insurance, investment management
Revenue €1.012 billion (2010)[1]
Profit €87.1 million (2010)[1]
Total assets €42.58 billion (end 2010)[1]
Total equity €3.641 billion (end 2010)[1]
Employees 9,000 (2010)[2]
Website www.laiki.com
 
I wonder a bank run in Cyprus will end up trigger a worldwide bank run???

To play safe; I just withdraw cash and keep in my safe box in Certis Cisco.
 
Re: bye bye laiki bank

Cyprus strikes last-minute EU bailout deal
Deal will reportedly involve heavy losses for wealthy investors, while those with savings under €100,000 will be spared

European leaders reached an agreement with Cyprus early on Monday morning to close down the island's second biggest bank and inflict huge losses on wealthy savers.

Russians would lose billions of euros under draconian terms which are aimed at preventing the Mediterranean tax haven becoming the first country forced out of the single currency.

"Herman Van Rompuy has brokered an agreement between the troika and Cyprus," said an EU source, referring to the president of the European Council and Cyprus's trio of creditors: the European commission, the European Central Bank and the International Monetary Fund.

A meeting of eurozone finance ministers which started six hours late reached an agreement in the early hours of Monday morning to finalise the fine print of the deal. Savers with deposits of less than €100,000 (£85,000) would be spared, but it was thought there would be heavy losses inflicted on the deposits of the wealthy.

Laiki, or Cyprus Popular Bank, is to be closed, with its good assets transferred to Bank of Cyprus, the country's biggest bank, where savers would suffer big losses in return for equity shares. Those with more than €100,000 in Laiki would also be hit hard.

Negotiations got under way amid a hardening of the stance by the IMF and Germany, which insisted that depositors must take the hit for bailing out the eurozone's latest crisis economy.

There were signs of panic in Cyprus as a €100 limit was imposed on ATM withdrawals, with more stringent capital controls to follow if the deal is finalised.

The European Central Bank had threatened to cut off funds propping up Cypriot banks on Monday, precipitating the island's exit from the euro if agreement was not reached at the emergency meeting.

"The numbers have not changed. If anything they've got worse," said Wolfgang Schäuble, Germany's finance minister. He said that last week's agreement to raise €5.8bn – details of which were rejected by Cyprus – had to be achieved. This time, however, savers with less than €100,000 will be spared, meaning the burden falls much more heavily on the wealthy than the 9.9% levy proposed last week for their accounts.

Germany is determined that the island deflate a bloated financial sector that exceeds the size of the Cypriot economy by a factor of seven.

"It is well known that I won't allow myself to be blackmailed, by no one or nothing," said Schäuble. "I'm aware of my responsibility for the stability of the euro. If we take the wrong decisions, we'll be doing the euro a great disservice," he told a German Sunday newspaper.

Russians are estimated to hold more than €20bn of the €68bn deposited in Cypriot banks. Bank of Cyprus holds €28bn in deposits although it was not clear how much of that would qualify for the "haircut".

But it was clear that the losses would amount to several billion.

Cypriot president Nicos Anastasiades held meetings with EU officials in Brussels before the meeting of the euro group – the 17 finance ministers of the single-currency area – which included troika representatives Christine Lagarde, head of the IMF, Mario Draghi, president of the ECB, and Olli Rehn, European commissioner for economic and monetary affairs.

Little progress was reported from the earlier meetings on resolving the stalemate over how to structure a €17bn bailout, with creditors unwilling to offer more than €10bn, while expressing dissatisfaction with Cypriot proposals to supply the remainder.

The agreement outlined early on Monday came close to what Lagarde had demanded a week ago and which had been rebuffed by Anastasiades.

Over the weekend, Nicosia moved on legislation to wind up Cyprus Popular Bank and introduce capital controls to try to prevent a bank run and the flight of money out of the country.
 
What happen if you steal russian mafia money? We will soon find out in coming months.
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So here's a wrap-up of what appears to be the shape of tonight's last-ditch deal between Cyprus and international lenders:

• A €10bn bailout that will shut down Cyprus' second largest bank and inflict heavy losses on uninsured depositors, including wealthy Russians.

• The deal will spare the country a financial meltdown by winding down Popular Bank of Cyprus, also known as Laiki, and shifting deposits below €100,000 to the Bank of Cyprus to create a "good bank".

• Deposits above €100,000, which under EU law are not guaranteed, will be frozen and used to resolve debts, and Laiki will effectively be shuttered, with thousands of job losses.
 
probably safe for singapore, not so safe for all the banks in cyprus.

I wonder a bank run in Cyprus will end up trigger a worldwide bank run???

To play safe; I just withdraw cash and keep in my safe box in Certis Cisco.
 
Burglary. you might lose all the money.
Fire. you might lose all the money.


Bank do not offer high interest.

Might as well place cash under mattress.
 
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Burglary. you might lose all the money.
Fire. you might lose all the money.

I place it with Certis Cisco.

If bank holiday happened in Singapore; I wonder how many days or weeks can Singaporeans survive without cash.
 
EU is a political plan to prevent the likely of war between nations in Europe.

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Never use a bank safe box. A private safe outside the banking system is preferred.

We have a few report of thief in Certis Cisco safe boxes; but all ended with owners admitting their error of forgetting the content in their box; or the other partner have took out the content without informing them.

I remember a case of my relative husband emptying the content to pawn; he own up only when a call to police was made.

http://www.certissecurity.com/safedeposit/
 
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I wonder a bank run in Cyprus will end up trigger a worldwide bank run???

To play safe; I just withdraw cash and keep in my safe box in Certis Cisco.

Can you trust PxP affliated, related & connected organization?? one day, all the contents of your box, will be converted to long term BONDS, 30 years at 4% :D
 
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