What if...Singapore is creative place...and we have our world beater companies??

I know....I know!! For a cuntry that puts so much value on Intellectual Property, we seem to have precious lack of it ourselves!

learning to accept failure could be a great start! learning from the failure would be an excellent follow up!
 
learning to accept failure could be a great start! learning from the failure would be an excellent follow up!

bro, another 2 things that we should try to reprogramme ourselves:

1. recognising that failing does not mean one is a failure.
2. having good character especially the willingness to help others is a success in itself. sucess is certainly not just about having money and power.
 
The regime doesn't believe in creativity.

Sekali think of ways to overthrow them then how arh?
 
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bro, another 2 things that we should try to reprogramme ourselves:

1. recognising that failing does not mean one is a failure.
2. having good character especially the willingness to help others is a success in itself. sucess is certainly not just about having money and power.

in absolute agreement :):):)
 
What's if we had our Googles and Microsofts?? Whats if we have a solid Singapore core of highly successful companies that provide gainful employment to local Singaporeans. A highly productive economy but the people are happy in that they enjoy what they do and have work life balance.There is a small foreign workforce but they mainly do the work that locals don't want to do. There is ample gahment incentives for families but people here are happy anyway so TFR is way above 2.1. The country has lots of greenery, roads are not crowded, people cycle without fear of being run over, there is no fear of speaking up, and democracy is alive and well... In fact there is keen competition between the 2 main political parties. Last election the PAP has majority but this time round the WP seems to have the upper hand.

Am I describing the impossible??

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That's the alarm clock

Time to stop dreaming and wake up
 
Ok seriously now...

I love your vision (or beautiful dream) but it's not quite possible.

Creativity comes often at a price. The most obvious being RISK. How many start ups died before Google became Google? How many game developers faded away into nothing before Angry Bird became the most downloaded game? There are more misses than hits in Silicon valley. For a society to totally rely on creativity to sustain its economy is like putting all their eggs in one flimsy basket.

On a similar note, Silicon Valley is one of the most ethnically and culturally diverse area in the world. They attract the best because of a successful hub for talents and investors. I think the original inhabitants of Silicon valley are mostly just the bus drivers or starbucks owners.

I know your point with this post. The key is to strike a balance. Singapore's education and business models discourages creativity and we are paying the price for it in a globalised economy.
 
I know your point with this post. The key is to strike a balance. Singapore's education and business models discourages creativity and we are paying the price for it in a globalised economy.

does PY knows fundamental research is more important than application research? :o:o:o
 
sinkies are actually very creative, proven by many sinkie entrepreneurs in the bay area starting up high tech ventures. what is lacking in sg is a sizable market with the critical mass to allow a venture to bloom, explode and find its way to success. sg can never match the market size and density of china, brazil, europe, india and the u.s. without the land mass and hundreds of million gainfully employed population. all creative, innovative startups in sg will have to eventually set up shop in these cuntries to tap into the local talent base and exploit the huge domestic market.
 
So...what r u all saying??? That the PAP is rite all along??? That we couldn't have ...even in the best of conditions a country where creativity thrives and we have our Googles and Samsung and our Oppra Hougang Style dance?? It can never happen. So back to reality. The PAP model is the best we can do so let's believe in it and make it work??
The 'What if ' scenario has got to be able to work if the conditions are there. We just to work at the conditions. However if u r saying that the 'what if' is unrealistic...that our economy is too small to generate the hits and misses to come up with a world beater companies like Google?? Then what's the alternatives....the PAP highly structured one???? No point in working at making the conditions possible...relieving the shackles of controls and allowing people to do as they please....because at the end of the day u will fail anyway because u r too small??
 
No point in working at making the conditions possible...relieving the shackles of controls and allowing people to do as they please....because at the end of the day u will fail anyway because u r too small??

sg can try in all manner and contortions, but it will be very tough to emulate and duplicate the conditions of sillycon valley. even in the u.s. where the market is, so many regions and cities attempt to emulate and duplicate the creative ambience of the valley and they can't match or catch up. it's not just a critical mass of critics, consumers and customers, but also that of inventors, innovators, idea-generators, implementors and investors.

example 1. godaddy.com has no choice but to set up an app development center in sunnyvale because they cannot find the critical mass of brain trust anywhere else willing to relocate to their original hq. they just opened their sunnyvale facility before chinese new year.

example 2. samsung has decided to bite the bullet and moved their r&d to san jose. it will employ 2000 super geeks.

example 3. ntt docomo has their r&d in palo alto. so does at&t. and so will verizon.

example 4. texas governor rick perry is conducting a bay area tour to attract high tech companies to move to texas. good luck. companies will most likely move mundane, power and space hogging, labor intensive operations there, such as data centers, call centers, warehousing and manufacturing. but the brain trust who are paid well will not move out of the valley. anyone who moves out loses their competitive and cutting edge and lowers own iq by 100 after 1 year.

example 5. roche acquired genentech and ended up relying on genentech's r&d in south sf for most of their next gen breakthru' products. their production facility is in vacaville, south of napa. the sg facility merely backs up production for the vacaville facility.

example 6. sf and san jose are locking horns to attract the latest and greatest biotech startups, and they are only 40 miles apart. meanwhile across the bay in emeryville, there are biotech behemoths already churning out pharm products, including the latest vaccines.

example 7. ericsson decided to buy up redback networks and do all their ip r&d in their north san jose campus, next to brocade and cisco. meanwhile, juniper is in sunnyvale and alcatel-lucent which bought timetra has their ip r&d campus in mountain view.

example 8. instead of setting up an r&d campus somewhere else cheap like texas or nevada, apple bought up land in cupertino, former property of h-p, and is starting to build their ufo-like hq in a multi-acre plot of prime land.

example 9. google is looking to expand to sunnyvale and a new plot of land further north after their mountain view campus has reached capacity. they go after all the cum laude and summa cum laude top of the line grads in the best universities across the country to work as interns. they have hired the best of the best for those who are about to retire.

example 10. facebook which poaches from google and apple, has opened up their new campus in menlo park as an expansion of their existing campus in the same town.

example 11. all chipmakers' r&d have campuses in the valley. intel in santa clara, qualcomm in san jose, broadcom in san jose, texas instrument in san jose, toshiba in san jose, fujitsu in sunnyvale, samsung in san jose, apple in cupertino, etc.

example 12. not to mention h-p in palo alto, ibm in south san jose, national semiconductor, western electric, motorola, tivo, marvell, dell, sales force, cadence, twitter, linkedin, etc.
 
Its not impossible, and I'm already living a life style like this but in Australia. I have work life balance, most of my colleague are 2nd 3rd gen migrants that are citizens. I drive a BMW, living in a landed property surrounded by parks and trees, four bedroom double storey and raising a family.

What's if we had our Googles and Microsofts?? Whats if we have a solid Singapore core of highly successful companies that provide gainful employment to local Singaporeans. A highly productive economy but the people are happy in that they enjoy what they do and have work life balance.There is a small foreign workforce but they mainly do the work that locals don't want to do. There is ample gahment incentives for families but people here are happy anyway so TFR is way above 2.1. The country has lots of greenery, roads are not crowded, people cycle without fear of being run over, there is no fear of speaking up, and democracy is alive and well... In fact there is keen competition between the 2 main political parties. Last election the PAP has majority but this time round the WP seems to have the upper hand.

Am I describing the impossible??
 
The good news is that the clutches of the PAP will be gone, if not substantially reduce, in 2016. The brainwashing technique used for decades is no longer as effective.

That's not going to change anything for the simple reason that there aren't enough Jewish and other Ang Moh Singaporeans around.

Chinese and Indian Sinkies are never going to be creative no matter where they are in the world especially when you consider the fact that those that emigrated to Singapore are 3rd rate, peasant stock or both. As for the Malays since when has a Muslim anywhere in the world done anything worthwhile?
 
sg can try in all manner and contortions, but it will be very tough to emulate and duplicate the conditions of sillycon valley. even in the u.s. where the market is, so many regions and cities attempt to emulate and duplicate the creative ambience of the valley and they can't match or catch up. it's not just a critical mass of critics, consumers and customers, but also that of inventors, innovators, idea-generators, implementors and investors.

Until a sinkie has lived and worked in the Bay area, he will not be able to comprehend why something similar cannot be created elsewhere. I had the honor of being posted there for 2 years when I was young and impressionable. It changed my life forever. My mindset and my view of the world was transformed.

Many nations have tried to create their own silicon valley. None have succeeded.
 
I believe we can do it. We just need to restructure but not in the way of the White Paper! Focus on Singaporeans and build up our SMEs. All those PAP leaders and managers who stand in the way ought to be removed. They pepertuate the current command and control structure and r just yes men and they only care for their own backsides. Once we remove the lid of controls, u will see a great change. U encourage people to try different things...creativity will flourish.It will be messy, chaotic but in the end we will succeed.
 
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