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Indian FTrash’s son renounces PR to avoid national service

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Apparently, an Indian national by the name of “Krishnaa Mohan” has posted a message on the Singapore Expats forum seeking information and advice.

He said that he was writing on behalf of “his friend”. He wanted to know what would happen to a person’s PR renewal (i.e. to get re-entry permit) if his son surrendered his PR just before enlistment to avoid NS?

“The friend, his spouse, son and daughter are PRS in Singapore since 1998. He came to Singapore when his son was 4 years old. The daughter was born here. The son had his education in Singapore local schools and finished his A level in NUS High School. He is a brilliant student and wanted to continue his higher education in Canada.”

Just a month before the son’s NS enlistment, the son surrendered his PR so that he would not have any NS liability. He was then given a long-term visit pass (LVP) for the next 6 months before he left for his university studies, presumably in Canada.

Mr Mohan added, “My friend’s REP (re-entry permit) is due for renewal in July 2013. My friend is owning a resale HDB Flat since 2001. His daughter is continuing her education here in Set (sic) 1.” [Ed. By "Set 1" he probably means "Sec 1".]

He then asked, “My friend is worried about his renewal of REP in July 2013. Can anyone in this forum enlighten about the chances of renewal of REP of my friend under the above circumstances?”

http://forum.singaporeexpats.com/ftopic92152.html&sid=92c0ada943ef1c64a38f45b810b6ddd0

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The Minister for Defence, Dr Ng Eng Hen, said in Parliament last year that over the last five years, about a third of male foreigners who became PRs under the sponsorship of their parents renounced their PR status prior to serving NS (‘One third of male PRs renounce their PR status to avoid NS‘).

Dr Ng said, “Better don’t take up the PR if your children are not going to do NS. It’s as simple as that. In our system if you don’t fulfil your NS liabilities, even if you choose to give up your PR, there are harsh penalties.”

“The basic message to permanent residents is this: If you want to take up permanent residency for your children, please do so recognizing that they have to do NS as a duty and there will be a course if you don’t. So, it’s better not to take up PR if your children are not going to do NS.”
It’s not known what will happen to the PR renewal of Mr Mohan’s “friend”. Even if the Singapore government allows Mr Mohan’s “friend” to continue to stay in Singapore by renewing his REP, it’s unclear he will do so given that his son is studying in Canada and will not be able to come back to Singapore to work anymore.

As Dr Ng says, there are “harsh penalties” for those who give up their PR status to avoid NS. They will not be given work passes to work in Singapore even if they want to after getting their degrees overseas. But they can still visit Singapore as tourists and spend tourist dollars here.
Given that the son of Mr Mohan’s “friend” can’t work in Singapore in future, there is a good chance he will settle down in the West after getting his university degree. When that happens, his family here in Singapore will likely uproot to join him in the West and retire there. After all, there is good welfare in the West.

In the same thread on the Singapore Expats forum, a netizen comments, “Another Indian (National) just abused the system…”
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<CITE class=fn>LEARN FROM ISRAEL:</CITE>
January 7, 2013 at 12:19 pm LEARN FROM ISRAEL(Quote)
We encourage foreign immigration into Singapore and gave them citizenship, Israel also welcome foreign immigration into Israel and gave them citizenship.
The difference is that, in Israel, one of the conditions of citizenship is compulsory enlistment into their national service, same goes for their sons/daughters who were born before the parents became Israeli citizens. THere is no way to game the system like the above story where son enjoyed all the subsidised education then gave up PR just before NS. Hence to be an Israeli citizen, you and your family gets the full benefit…INCLUDING THAT OF SERVING THE COUNTRY AND IF NECESSARY DYING FOR THE COUNTRY.
WHAT KIND OF BRAINLESS GOVERNMENT WE HAVE, ALLOWING FOREIGNERS TO GAME THE SYSTEM; GETTING ALL THE BENEFITS OF SUBSIDISED WORLD RECOGNISED EDUCATION, SUBSIDISED PUBLIC HOUSING, LOW INCOME TAX, PLENTIFUL EMPLOYMENT, SAFETY AND SECURITY ASSURED BY A LARGE CONSCRIPTED POOL OF NATIONAL SERVICEMEN AND RESERVIST MADE UP OF BORN IN SINGAPORE CITIZENS???
Without the responsibility and accountability of sharing in the burden of keeping Singapore prosperous and safe for the future!
DOESN’T LHL/LKY/PAP KNOW THAT THIS SHORTCHANGING OF SINGAPOREANS IS NOT SUSTAINABLE? OR THEY DON’T CARE?
 
The sinkapore government can terminate the PR of the parents as well. Why wouldn't it do so?
 
Err....Sinkapore Government? The World Highest paid government!


WHAT KIND OF BRAINLESS GOVERNMENT WE HAVE, ALLOWING FOREIGNERS TO GAME THE SYSTEM; GETTING ALL THE BENEFITS OF SUBSIDISED WORLD RECOGNISED EDUCATION, SUBSIDISED PUBLIC HOUSING, LOW INCOME TAX, PLENTIFUL EMPLOYMENT, SAFETY AND SECURITY ASSURED BY A LARGE CONSCRIPTED POOL OF NATIONAL SERVICEMEN AND RESERVIST MADE UP OF BORN IN SINGAPORE CITIZENS???
 
They are free to avoid NS, but they can never enter Singapore again.
 
Why is there no bond payable by the PR parents for these boys when they leave for foreign education if they have an NS obligation or is the damm PAP too afraid of these PRs running off that they rather oppress citizens???
 
Why is there no bond payable by the PR parents for these boys when they leave for foreign education if they have an NS obligation or is the damm PAP too afraid of these PRs running off that they rather oppress citizens???


How can we make them pay a bond when they are not Singaporeans? You got no brain.
 

How can we make them pay a bond when they are not Singaporeans? You got no brain.

eh idiot, there is such a thing as setting down terms and conditions to the grant of a PR or you live in a world of no rules just because you are a pap dog?
 
Hail the great Party ! :rolleyes:
All the top scholars are merely jiak liao bees who can't do shit when these scheming FTrash screwed them back.
Paid millions but not worth a cent.
Ptui !
 
This is infuriating to say the least !!

This problem is compounded by the fact that new citizenships are anyhow given out to Ftrashs who need not do NS so as to boost Pappy votes.:oIo:
 
If you are given a choice, to serve or not to serve NS, which will it be?

I think even most citizens will choose NAY, what more if you are not?

Cheers!
 
If you are given a choice, to serve or not to serve NS, which will it be?

I think even most citizens will choose NAY, what more if you are not?

Cheers!

Adding insult to injury,true blue citizens who had done NS still have to endure the misery of OUR hard-earned Cpf money not given back to us at age 55 !:mad:
 
Why is there no bond payable by the PR parents for these boys when they leave for foreign education if they have an NS obligation or is the damm PAP too afraid of these PRs running off that they rather oppress citizens???

eh idiot, there is such a thing as setting down terms and conditions to the grant of a PR or you live in a world of no rules just because you are a pap dog?

I agree.. Good valid points from you..
 
These Pariah Hindustan Pundeks are not dependable..

They're crafty cunning bastards.. The parents of this sissy Pundek should be stripped of their PRs and have their HDB resale flat confiscated.. The whole family should then be send packing to the airport to catch the earliest flight back to India..

But we all know that the PAP won't take any drastic action against this PR Pundek family and the rest of the India Ah Nehs in Spore..

Pro PAP chaps like Char Azn, Kinana, Wmulew would cry at the thought of seeing their beloved Ah Neh boyfriends being deported back to India..
 
You can be assured that soon with the coming of age of the first batch of ah tiong second generation reaching enlistment age, lagi more deserters loh!
 
You can also choose for your kids no to serve. Just dont enter singapore again
 
Well done man PAP, let these Fts come to Singapore and buy HDB flats so that they can rent out and live in condos ....give their children a good education so that they can leave and refuse to do NS.....

whats the point of being a citizen????
 
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