Petition for WP to give up Pongoll East seat to vincent wijeysingha

[andyfisher]

is VW really gay? did he pg that he gay? did he come out of the closet?
anyone here suck his cock or let him bum them?
anyone here bum him?
anyone see him do anything that can give people the suspicion that he gay?

and even if he gay, whats wrong? why must it be a deciding factor?

I dont think he gay cos there is no proof, but if it turns out he gay, i still hope he get into parl. he makes more sense than the farts we have in parl now.

 

[brocoli]

The SDP need to win just ONE time and everything will change. I am betting on the SDP to beat the WP in a straight fight.

The hardcore opposition forces are very in tune with the SDP's fight. WP is a wishy-washy party. Keeping quiet is their forte. Not rocking the boat is their way. Wayanging seems to be in their system.

In a 3-corner fight with the PAP and WP, I am very sure the hard-core oppositionists will side with the SDP. The wayanging has to stop!

if the hard-core oppositionists can get more than 15% against WP, I chopped my kkj....

tan jee say only got 25%, even among these 25% hard-core oppositionists, some are more anti PAP than pro SDP... mark my words

 

[SDPhopelessParty]

if the hard-core oppositionists can get more than 15% against WP, I chopped my kkj....

tan jee say only got 25%, even among these 25% hard-core oppositionists, some are more anti PAP than pro SDP... mark my words

if the Street Demonstration Party ( SDP) can get 3% pap would laugh all the ways to ParLeeMENT

 

[ray_of_hope]

All parties are free to contest. Next GE there will be multi-corner everywhere. It's good for democracy.

 

[andyfisher]

exactly..lets have a proper GE

democracy strengthens a society

All parties are free to contest. Next GE there will be multi-corner everywhere. It's good for democracy.

 

[@rmadill0]

If next GE is multi-corner everywhere, PAP will win all the seats with overall less than 50% support.

Not against multi-corner fights but apart from Democracy being the winner, the other would be PAP.

 

[SgParent]

The SDP need to win just ONE time and everything will change.

Has anyone had a good laugh at your joke of the day yet?

Or for that matter, had anything changed after SDP won 3 seats about 20yrs ago, only for CSJ to screw up?

I am betting on the SDP to beat the WP in a straight fight.

Online, your bet, your words mean nothing in real life.

Same goes for SDP, The Invincible ONLINE party. It means nothing in real life.

The hardcore opposition forces are very in tune with the SDP's fight. WP is a wishy-washy party. Keeping quiet is their forte. Not rocking the boat is their way. Wayanging seems to be in their system.

Of course. 100% agree with you there.

The past GE results totally tally with your expert's view.

Happy?

 

[mypools]

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[ray_of_hope]

If next GE is multi-corner everywhere, PAP will win all the seats with overall less than 50% support.

Not against multi-corner fights but apart from Democracy being the winner, the other would be PAP.

This may in fact eventuate. If so, you can easily ascribe responsibility by looking at the results of the 2011 GE.

 

[tanwahp]

If next GE is multi-corner everywhere, PAP will win all the seats with overall less than 50% support.

Not against multi-corner fights but apart from Democracy being the winner, the other would be PAP.

If some opposition parties think they are already poised as the forefront opposition or ready to take over the PAP, it has nothing to do with PAP or democracy but themselves.

There's nothing wrong thinking that way, or to contest in multicorner. But they are expected to bear the responsibility for their own judgement.

This is why TJS and TKL are being blamed. Nobody should blame them for contesting, creating 4CF or "causing" Tony Tan to win.

But I certainly don't want political leaders to think they can win and end up getting 5%. That's a 45% margin of error. What if the person becomes PM? Will he calculate 5% inflation and end up 50% inflation?

 

[Fook Seng]

All parties are free to contest. Next GE there will be multi-corner everywhere. It's good for democracy.

In fact, since there is so much dissatisfaction in the government in handling so many things uncovered after the last GE, why have just a BE? Why not have an early GE in 2013 if this country values democracy? Sorry, I forgot. The PM is still deciding on whether to give PE residents the right of a vote.

 

[ray_of_hope]

In fact, since there is so much dissatisfaction in the government in handling so many things uncovered after the last GE, why have just a BE? Why not have an early GE in 2013 if this country values democracy? Sorry, I forgot. The PM is still deciding on whether to give PE residents the right of a vote.

Why are you so skittish about all this? If you feel so strongly that multi-corner fights are not good for the growth of democracy then what are you going to do about it? Posting things online change nothing. If, however, you write or speak face-to-face with the parties which, based on the 2011 GE results show themselves to be weak, not to provoke multi-corner fights, then that is something. If you are not prepared to do this then I do not think you or anyone else has much to complain about.

 

[Bigfuck]

Petition for WP to give up Pongoll East seat to vincent wijeysingha

Why? Opinion poll by Leegime to see how much worse their new candidate they field will perform against SDP, like TT 35.2% dismal performance?

 

[Dreamer1]

Petition for WP to give up Pongoll East seat to vincent wijeysingha

No,I will see what the WP candidate has to say first,but that is after we force PM to hold by -election first,one step at a time Brother Alantan

 

[Fook Seng]

Why are you so skittish about all this? If you feel so strongly that multi-corner fights are not good for the growth of democracy then what are you going to do about it? Posting things online change nothing. If, however, you write or speak face-to-face with the parties which, based on the 2011 GE results show themselves to be weak, not to provoke multi-corner fights, then that is something. If you are not prepared to do this then I do not think you or anyone else has much to complain about.

Nothing skittish about this. Just picking up from your wonderful suggestion that multi-cornered fight is good for democracy. If it is really good for democracy, wouldn't having a chance to have an early GE to decide on the Govt not only in the PE but in all other constituencies be an even greater exhibition of democracy?

Anyway why are you so adamant on having multi-cornered fights? Why don't you stand for election yourself because all these candidates may simply drop out at the last minute?

Another thing, don't you think it would be very undemocratic if the PM eventually decided not even to have a BE?

 

[ray_of_hope]

Nothing skittish about this. Just picking up from your wonderful suggestion that multi-cornered fight is good for democracy. If it is really good for democracy, wouldn't having a chance to have an early GE to decide on the Govt not only in the PE but in all other constituencies be an even greater exhibition of democracy?

Anyway why are you so adamant on having multi-cornered fights? Why don't you stand for election yourself because all these candidates may simply drop out at the last minute?

Another thing, don't you think it would be very undemocratic if the PM eventually decided not even to have a BE?

1. The last GE was in 2011, and so waiting for a few more years is reasonable. I believe that there will be a BE, maybe in March or April.
2. Multi-cornered fights will separate apart weak from strong parties. It is therefore good.
3. Voters vote parties not candidates. There is only one opposition party worth considering if one is contemplating standing for election. I believe that TJS has long since realised that. If that party does not invite you then I would say don't bother.

 

[Fook Seng]

1. The last GE was in 2011, and so waiting for a few more years is reasonable. I believe that there will be a BE, maybe in March or April.
2. Multi-cornered fights will separate apart weak from strong parties. It is therefore good.
3. Voters vote parties not candidates. There is only one opposition party worth considering if one is contemplating standing for election. I believe that TJS has long since realised that. If that party does not invite you then I would say don't bother.

I believe you agree that not holding a BE is undemocratic. Let us see whether a BE will be held in March or April. Your analysis raised a few questions. Didn't the GE 2011 give a very indication of which is a strong party and which are the weak ones? Why is it a strong need to have a review, ahead of missing out on an opposition seat which in the interest of democracy is definitely of greater priority as we are still very far from even one-third minority representation in parliament when popular votes indicate around 40% supports an Opposition? If it is party more important than candidates unlike what some others here who are also supporting a multi-cornered fight are saying, didn't the Hougang BE just only some months back showed that WP's support continued to be strong and can be trusted to win another opposition seat in this BE, why don't we leave them the responsibility to deliver the goods and wait another 3 years to have a review of the strength and weaknesses of individual parties?

 

[ray_of_hope]

I believe you agree that not holding a BE is in undemocratic. Let us see whether a BE will be held in March or April. Your analysis raised a few questions. Didn't the GE 2011 give a very indication of which is a strong party and which are the weak ones? Why is it a strong need to have a review, ahead of missing out on an opposition which in the interest of democracy is definitely of greater priority as we are still very far from even one-third minority representation in parliament when popular votes indicate around 40% supports an Opposition? If it is party more important than candidates unlike some others here who are also supporting a multi-cornered fight, didn't the Hougang BE just only some months back that WP's support continues to be strong and can be trusted to win another opposition seat in this BE, why don't we leave them the responsibility to deliver the goods and wait another 3 years to have a review of the strength and weaknesses of individual parties?

Don't take a vote cast for some parties in a one-to-one fight as being a pro such-and-such party. It was simply an anti-PAP vote.
This however will become clearer in a multi-corner fight. If a multi-corner fight leaves some parties with 2-3% vote what leg will they stand on? What credibility will they have left.

I say bring on the multi-corner fight!

 

[Dreamer1]

All parties are free to contest. Next GE there will be multi-corner everywhere. It's good for democracy.

Brother ROH,I do not know whether oit is good for democracy,it does not matter,now our instuction from above is to send blck hearted PAP to our friend Lord of Hell,who is a friendly guy if we just a little bit of Kama,not too much hor like the PAP,anyway,we are getting something better than DEMOCRACY,akan datang,coming soon,God bless,amen
http://sg.news.yahoo.com/pap-is-incapable-of-reinventing-itself--catherine-lim.html

 

[Dreamer1]

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