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NSP statement on Hougang BE & GMS

Perspective

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Several problems in the release, if you ask me,

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Statement on the Hougang by-election

By nsp • March 23, 2012 • Press Releases • Leave a comment

The National Solidarity Party has received many queries from the media following Mr Goh Meng Seng’s blog article regarding the possibility of the Party contesting the upcoming Hougang by-election. As Mr Goh is no longer a member of NSP, it is inappropriate for NSP to take responsibility for Mr Goh’s articles and personal opinions.

NSP has made no announcement that we would contest in the Hougang by-election, nor that we would not. Openness and transparency are applicable to public policies and administration, but not to election strategies. Transparency in war is suicidal. Political situations are always fluid and pre-mature announcements carry unnecessary risks. We should be judged on the basis of our actions, not by the words of a third person. Over time, we hope to earn the public’s confidence in the ability of NSP to come to sound decisions.

http://nsp.sg/2012/03/23/statement-on-the-hougang-by-election/
 

oldgoat

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NSP is beginning to sound like GMS, if you ask me.

Several problems in the release, if you ask me,

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Statement on the Hougang by-election

By nsp • March 23, 2012 • Press Releases • Leave a comment

The National Solidarity Party has received many queries from the media following Mr Goh Meng Seng’s blog article regarding the possibility of the Party contesting the upcoming Hougang by-election. As Mr Goh is no longer a member of NSP, it is inappropriate for NSP to take responsibility for Mr Goh’s articles and personal opinions.

NSP has made no announcement that we would contest in the Hougang by-election, nor that we would not. Openness and transparency are applicable to public policies and administration, but not to election strategies. Transparency in war is suicidal. Political situations are always fluid and pre-mature announcements carry unnecessary risks. We should be judged on the basis of our actions, not by the words of a third person. Over time, we hope to earn the public’s confidence in the ability of NSP to come to sound decisions.

http://nsp.sg/2012/03/23/statement-on-the-hougang-by-election/
 

Perspective

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The issues:

1. The whole release is meaningless as it wants to tell the world 2 things - GMS is not your member and you are keeping your options open. These, the whole world knows already. Shinmin, TRE and TT has done it for you. Your decision thought processes were messy in the first place and you have to remind the public again.

2. The manner it tells the world that GMS is no longer a member amounts to disassociation from someone who was your leader. No matter what happens, keep it low. Look at SDP and WP and the way it responses to resignations.

3. Whether contesting the Hougang BE is a black-white yes or no decision and how that can be consider "political strategy" is beyond me. No one is asking for your candidate's identity or how do you want to justify your decision.

4. A point I have raised before - continuing to keep your options open gives every other party eyeing your previous contested wards the same reason to keep their options open in future. And keeping options open does not a necessary lead to a "no". You may say "no" to Hougang this time, but others may say "yes" in 2016.

5. At this point, if you say "no" by the time it comes, people would see is as false bravado and slow decision-making (since other parties like SDA, RP, SDP, SPP already said yes months before you) and you say "yes", you as a party is also politically finished. Lose-lose situation.

6. In addition, it still contradicts Nicole's statement.
 

3_M

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The issues:

3. Whether contesting the Hougang BE is a black-white yes or no decision and how that can be consider "political strategy" is beyond me. No one is asking for your candidate's identity or how do you want to justify your decision.

It strategic ambiguity. But what they hope to achieve by keeping WP guessing? I doubt WP will be too bothered with 3CF.
 

scroobal

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A stupid statement by a stupid party. Nobody is talking about election strategy. Hougang has been opposition hands for over 20 years. It went across from PAP to WP primarily due to LTK. He has done a remarkable job in looking after Houghang and their town council has done well. There was a glitch with YSL when you consider the greater scheme of things.

If NSP wants to be ambivalent because of the pettiness of one idiot, and prefers not to commit to building a strong opposition force, they are certainly the outlier. SDP has done very in this regard and so has Nicole Seah.

I found it odd that they mention GMS but did not mention NS who is not only a member, but a CEC membet and leader of their Youth. Unless Hazel's english comprehension is so poor, there can only be one interpretation of Nicole's statement on Hougang BE. I suspect even low- ballers like sideswipe can figure this out.
 

scroobal

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This is a classic case of cutting your nose off to spite your face. And they went to Oxbridge. Any form of good strategy is to create a perception of power, control, positive profile etc. Even the aunty selling vegetables in the wet market got more brains.

It strategic ambiguity. But what they hope to achieve by keeping WP guessing? I doubt WP will be too bothered with 3CF.
 

deepblue0911

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A stupid statement by a stupid party. Nobody is talking about election strategy. Hougang has been opposition hands for over 20 years. It went across from PAP to WP primarily due to LTK. He has done a remarkable job in looking after Houghang and their town council has done well. There was a glitch with YSL when you consider the greater scheme of things.

If NSP wants to be ambivalent because of the pettiness of one idiot, and prefers not to commit to building a strong opposition force, they are certainly the outlier. SDP has done very in this regard and so has Nicole Seah.

I found it odd that they mention GMS but did not mention NS who is not only a member, but a CEC membet and leader of their Youth. Unless Hazel's english comprehension is so poor, there can only be one interpretation of Nicole's statement on Hougang BE. I suspect even low- ballers like sideswipe can figure this out.

Agree with Scroobal and Perspective.

But I can understand why NSP came out with a press statement, no thanks to GMS for acting in the most inappropriate manner by speculating on NSP's next move. NSP are right to dissociate from GMS.

However, the second paragraph is completely unnecessary and can in fact lead to more speculations. The content is not wrong, about transparency being not applicable to election/strategy. But if you do not want to talk about it, then just be silent. When you tell people "I don't want to talk about it", people will talk about it more!!! Real dumb!
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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This is a classic case of cutting your nose off to spite your face. And they went to Oxbridge. Any form of good strategy is to create a perception of power, control, positive profile etc. Even the aunty selling vegetables in the wet market got more brains.


Scroo, even the auntie selling vegetables knows that when customers haggle with you, you maintain eye contact and make no mince that your wares are of quality enough to command the price you ask. NSP has been dancing around like a underaged ballerina and then tripping over itself.
 

Perspective

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It strategic ambiguity. But what they hope to achieve by keeping WP guessing? I doubt WP will be too bothered with 3CF.

Sounds to me like a revenge mode - like pointing a gun at their head with no intention to fire but trying to scare the fellow opposition thinking it has been binded up.

They don't realise the fellow opposition has not been tied up and will later lunge at them and turn the gun around.
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Sounds to me like a revenge mode - like pointing a gun at their head with no intention to fire but trying to scare the fellow opposition thinking it has been binded up.

They don't realise the fellow opposition has not been tied up and will later lunge at them and turn the gun around.


If NSP is trying to play a game of political poker, they will fail so miserably they won't know what hit them. I would certainly love to play poker against such an opponent. Confirm win one.
 

Windsor2012

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The statement falls short giving GMS some face and not mentioning NS is a slap to her face. Well, what can one expect other than an insipid statement from an immatured political party? NSP needs a leadership shakeup if they want to remain relevant.
 

steffychun

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Loyal
Several problems in the release, if you ask me,

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Statement on the Hougang by-election

By nsp • March 23, 2012 • Press Releases • Leave a comment

The National Solidarity Party has received many queries from the media following Mr Goh Meng Seng’s blog article regarding the possibility of the Party contesting the upcoming Hougang by-election. As Mr Goh is no longer a member of NSP, it is inappropriate for NSP to take responsibility for Mr Goh’s articles and personal opinions.

NSP has made no announcement that we would contest in the Hougang by-election, nor that we would not. Openness and transparency are applicable to public policies and administration, but not to election strategies. Transparency in war is suicidal. Political situations are always fluid and pre-mature announcements carry unnecessary risks. We should be judged on the basis of our actions, not by the words of a third person. Over time, we hope to earn the public’s confidence in the ability of NSP to come to sound decisions.

http://nsp.sg/2012/03/23/statement-on-the-hougang-by-election/

Sitting a breaking fence. Soon you will fall to one side.
 

Sadist

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Loyal
The issues:

1. The whole release is meaningless as it wants to tell the world 2 things - GMS is not your member and you are keeping your options open. These, the whole world knows already. Shinmin, TRE and TT has done it for you. Your decision thought processes were messy in the first place and you have to remind the public again.

3. Whether contesting the Hougang BE is a black-white yes or no decision and how that can be consider "political strategy" is beyond me. No one is asking for your candidate's identity or how do you want to justify your decision.

I was right, you are not only hitting out at GMS unnecessary but also NSP and all others except WP.

For me, I really find your analysis meaningless. Since when an opposition party has to make their stand right from the start to contest in a BE? Is WP trying to say that NSP politcal strategy is absurd? With these kind of arguments, certainly WP looks like a bigger bully then PAP.
 

deepblue0911

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I was right, you are not only hitting out at GMS unnecessary but also NSP and all others except WP.

For me, I really find your analysis meaningless. Since when an opposition party has to make their stand right from the start to contest in a BE? Is WP trying to say that NSP politcal strategy is absurd? With these kind of arguments, certainly WP looks like a bigger bully then PAP.

Agree and disagree.

Disagree that hitting at GMS is unnecessary. His comments on NSP's contest in HG BE and Nicole are inappropriate, esp since he's the former Sec Gen. Serious lapse of judgement, but then again we don't really expect GMS to exercise any good judgement, do we?

Agree that NSP owe nobody a stand or an explanation on their strategy. In fact, I mentioned in an earlier post in this thread that the second para of NSP statement is completely unnecessary. They should just dissociate themselves from GMS, no need to talk about BE. They sounded almost apologetic for not taking a stand. Why should they? But should just be silent, don't talk it, don't explain.

Last but not least, I don't understand these two sentences:

Is WP trying to say that NSP politcal strategy is absurd? With these kind of arguments, certainly WP looks like a bigger bully then PAP.

What does Perspective's comments have to do with WP? Perspective represents WP?
 
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ChaoPappyPoodle

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An interesting thing that can happen is for LTK to resign from Aljunied GRC and joining the fray at Hougang SMC. Aljunied losing one MP does not necessitate a BE under existing laws. :eek:
 

Raiders

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This is a classic case of cutting your nose off to spite your face. And they went to Oxbridge. Any form of good strategy is to create a perception of power, control, positive profile etc. Even the aunty selling vegetables in the wet market got more brains.

Good academic results does not mean good leaders. How often do we see that in the corporate world. In politics, it gets even harder. You must know when to say and what to say. LTK has play this game very well. The NSP newbies are still sucking their mother's tits. :biggrin:
 

cleareyes

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Good academic results does not mean good leaders. How often do we see that in the corporate world. In politics, it gets even harder.

That is something that should be said to PAP as well

and if u do notice, the presenty NSP leadership are schooled by PAP. The mindset gets carried forward from there.
 

Perspective

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I was right, you are not only hitting out at GMS unnecessary but also NSP and all others except WP.

For me, I really find your analysis meaningless. Since when an opposition party has to make their stand right from the start to contest in a BE? Is WP trying to say that NSP politcal strategy is absurd? With these kind of arguments, certainly WP looks like a bigger bully then PAP.

Learn how to read.
 
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