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Is there God? Perhaps a good logical sequence to read on an Easter Tuesday...

Porfirio Rubirosa

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An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new students to stand and.....

Prof: So you believe in God?
Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof : Is God good?
Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?
Student : Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.
Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm?
(Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fella. Is God good?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?
Student : No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?
Student: From...God.. .

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?
Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?
(Student does not answer.)

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?
Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?
(Student has no answer.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you.
Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?
Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?
Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student: Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.
Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.
Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.
Student: No sir. There isn't.. (The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat.

But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can't go any further after that.

There is no such thing as cold . Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat . We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy .
Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it .

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?
Student :You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something..
You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and it's called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't. If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?
Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?
Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality.. You argue
there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God.. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it.

Now tell me, Professor.Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)
Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher? (The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?
(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain,sir.

With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )
Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH. That is all that keeps things moving & alive.

NB: I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. ...and if so...you'll probably want your friends/colleagues to enjoy the same...won't you?.... this is a true story, and the student was none other than........ .

APJ Abdul Kalam, the former president of India
 

lancheowman

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Lol-the professor here is probably functioning at your low level of primate IQ. Thats why he say there are things such as "cold" and "darkness"

I can feel and touch heat, i can see light but i cannot feel god or satan.

I can observe electricity and the effect of magnetism but i cannot observe god or satan.

We can observe evolution at work and we see these in the creation of new viruses or mutation of old viruses like sars or ebola. We can oso see from the fossil record for the effect of evolution. No one have ever observed the alleged creation by your God.

et voila, end of argument. There is no need to go one full circle to establish a duality.
 
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PAPsupporter

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I don't know if there is any God around, but I can assured you that there is a great PAP government behind us. :smile:
 

TeeKee

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I don't know if there is any God around, but I can assured you that there is a great PAP government behind us. :smile:

nah! PAP govt. isn't that great compared to the haydays when it was first started...

now it's going downhill, because somehow that million dollar paychecks somehow made them a bit of a fat lards in their blanes...

we can just watch as they continue to make a fool of themselves..
 

TeeKee

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There is no need to go one full circle to establish a duality.

i dun think the universe is dual...it could be multiplicity though...

maybe because of our limited human visions and perception, we could only understand or see duality....

tioh boh?
 

po2wq

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I don't know if there is any God around, but I can assured you that there is a great PAP government behind us. :smile:
y r absolutely rite! ...

ur gr8 gahmen is rite bhind u! ...

n u njoy wat gr8 gahmen is doing 2 u fr ze back ...
 
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lancheowman

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i dun think the universe is dual...it could be multiplicity though...

maybe because of our limited human visions and perception, we could only understand or see duality....

tioh boh?

pls go and take a comprehension test and show uncle evidence that you pass before you talk to me...thank you :p:smile::rolleyes:
 

mscitw

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APJ Abdul Kalam is using rascal Maoist tactics.

During the grilling, economist Liang decried the silly Great Leap Forward. The barely literate Butcher Mao was outgunned and Mao knew it. However Mao fought back by suggesting Economist Liang was a counter-revolutionary and that spelled the end of economist Liang.

The x'tian religion may be admirable for their zealous efforts of missionaries but the baggage of their religion persists. The Old Testament is a bad translation of the Torah and inconsistencies plagues the New Testament. In the New Testament, the all loving Son of God is finally protrayed as an avenging king who will thrash infidels aka using scare tactics to cow submission.

Later x'tians practice double standards, rubbishing other religions as fairy tales while ignoring their own fairy tales. Some local peasants have the gall to insist their god is real and alive because their churches are rich and count the powerful as their members!

Mission school boy logic indeed.
 
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