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Migration: To each, his or her own

neddy

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Migration is a very individual choice. A place that is suitable for a person may not be suitable for another.

Just consider the various good/bad comments about Kiwis returning to NZ from www.stuff.co.nz



http://www.stuff.co.nz/4802080a4621.html

We wouldn't dream of it. Less concerned about job/salary prospects. It's the random crime, the intimidation everywhere; the dirty streets and towns; vandalism and graffiti everywhere; the slovenly, thuggish 'locals' stalking the country everywhere you look; the bland, depressing, abject 'yuckiness' (for want of a better word!) of Auckland. And the negative, insular, ignorant (often rude) mentality of so many kiwis is ridiculous. God it is a depressing place to visit these days! And the weather doesn't help it! Quality of life? Hardly. (Example: you've all read recently about how poorly raised/treated/cared for N.Z. kids are compared with the rest of the developed world...) Amazing what we used to think was 'normal' when we lived there. Glad to be done with it. Clean up the place big-time, and you might tempt a few back. Not us, but a few others.

#1 Posted by Never again, California — 05:30 AM | Wednesday, 24 December 2008
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In response to #1
As a returned expat I would like to respond to the ignormanus from california who obviously has a deluded image of this country and appears only to have evey lived in one place. That being Auckland ,and by the sounds a rough part. Every country has them! I have travelled the world and lived in london for 3 years. If Mr "never again" thinks NZ is full of randomn crime and dirty streets then he/they have never lived in London, Rio or Detroit. Wake up buddy. NZ is a beautiful country and it may have its share of social problems but lets get real and acknowledge they are no where near as bad as some countrys and cities (not to mention south central LA). New Zeland is undergoing market correction in respect of housing which is well due. But if you dont want to come back then thats great. We dont want you.

#18 Posted by Returned Expat — 10:31 AM | Wednesday, 24 December 2008
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I am late twenties & have travelled around a lot of the world. I love NZ. Yes, incomes are lower here than other developed nations... but there is life beyond money. My happiness comes from spending time with family & friends, fishing, diving and exploring the wonderful country we have. I can't believe all your negative comments above, they seem rather shallow... and in fact, the country could possibly be better off without you returning.
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My wife and I are returning home after 5/7 years away. We are looking forward to getting in the car, going to the beach, skiing, fishing, being with family and friends. There is a lot in NZ if it suits you, but if money/wealth is what your life's about then probably not. NZ's small town attitude and seeking world importance will change in time if enough of us go back. I'm looking forward to it.
 
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Satan

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Migration is a very individual choice. A place that is suitable for a person may not be suitable for another.

Just consider the various good/bad comments about Kiwis returning to NZ from www.stuff.co.nz



http://www.stuff.co.nz/4802080a4621.html

I have heard many negative posts about NZ which have stated that crime rates are high, salaries low, things expensive etc. But at the end of the day, I could not deny that it is a lot better place as compared to Singapore. Most Kiwis are only concerned with negative points but they have not lived in a place where locals have to serve in the National Slavery, lose their jobs to cheap fake degree Foreign Trashes, having to squeeze like sardines in "world class" public transport because cars are so expensive, having to pick up cardboards in their old ages and just having a pigeon hole as a "house". If they think Nz is bad, they should stay in Sinkeeland as a Sinkeeland citizen (not PR). They being An Moh will of course put them at an advantage as the gabrament worships white asses but imagine if they are Chinese or Indian. The feeling will be very different. At the end of the day, there is no perfect paradise in this world. If you are hoping for one, you'll only be disappointed because at the end of the day, its just going to be an illusion. It depends on you as to how you make the best out of opportunities that a particular place offers you.
 

neddy

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I have heard many negative posts about NZ which have stated that crime rates are high, salaries low, things expensive etc. But at the end of the day, I could not deny that it is a lot better place as compared to Singapore. Most Kiwis are only concerned with negative points but they have not lived in a place where locals have to serve in the National Slavery, lose their jobs to cheap fake degree Foreign Trashes, having to squeeze like sardines in "world class" public transport because cars are so expensive, having to pick up cardboards in their old ages and just having a pigeon hole as a "house". ...

I know a Singaporean living in Nepal because she love it, even thought we may think is backward. She lived through the Maoist protests, curfew, etc.

It is just like having a spouse, we cannot expect a perfect partner, the question is whether we can live with the flaws.
 

jw5

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I know a Singaporean living in Nepal because she love it, even thought we may think is backward. She lived through the Maoist protests, curfew, etc.

It is just like having a spouse, we cannot expect a perfect partner, the question is whether we can live with the flaws.
This applies for everything in life, doesn't it? :smile:
 

axe168

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Migration is a very individual choice. A place that is suitable for a person may not be suitable for another.


Agree.. this is why i recommend fellow pappy sinkies continue to be pappy servants.. working hard for "tomorrow" (not knowing "tomorrow" will never come..heehee)

While i relax by my backyard.. drinking beer.. adapting the lazy koala lifestyle...:biggrin:
 

MambaLeyla

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Migration To each his or her own

in my experiece the moment i was able to control my dream is always the time i was about to wake up...lol i always remeber some hot celebs in my dream i was about put it in her and then i woke up... f-ck
 

neddy

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Re: Migration To each his or her own

in my experiece the moment i was able to control my dream is always the time i was about to wake up...lol i always remeber some hot celebs in my dream i was about put it in her and then i woke up... f-ck

Still in a denial state ... Pity
 

Satan

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Re: Migration To each his or her own

in my experiece the moment i was able to control my dream is always the time i was about to wake up...lol i always remeber some hot celebs in my dream i was about put it in her and then i woke up... f-ck

Is this the celebrity you often dream about???? :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:


ching_ho.jpg
 

axe168

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Re: Migration To each his or her own

Wah lan hoi. This man so macho also you horny ah? This man is Arse Ah Qua Loon's husband mah. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

So what if she's a man ? She is the Commander of TemaSick.. lots of money okie.. heehee
 

edzhang9

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I read your message with great interest . Care to give me more advise as I am seeking to migrate . I been in the Real Estate industry for the past 25 years working for Multi National Company was retrench since 2007 have been working in Hongkong and china as Property Development Consultant. By the way please note I am not a Property Agent I deal with Mega project development specialise in Sydnication of project loan and deal structure due to the uniquness of my Professional I have difficulties in seeking similiar job employment in my country. Presently I am seeking to leave my country and migrate to NZ or OZ with the intention to doing business in general trading of Hareware or service provider business in NZ . Care to give your advise or opinion


Migration is a very individual choice. A place that is suitable for a person may not be suitable for another.

Just consider the various good/bad comments about Kiwis returning to NZ from www.stuff.co.nz



http://www.stuff.co.nz/4802080a4621.html

We wouldn't dream of it. Less concerned about job/salary prospects. It's the random crime, the intimidation everywhere; the dirty streets and towns; vandalism and graffiti everywhere; the slovenly, thuggish 'locals' stalking the country everywhere you look; the bland, depressing, abject 'yuckiness' (for want of a better word!) of Auckland. And the negative, insular, ignorant (often rude) mentality of so many kiwis is ridiculous. God it is a depressing place to visit these days! And the weather doesn't help it! Quality of life? Hardly. (Example: you've all read recently about how poorly raised/treated/cared for N.Z. kids are compared with the rest of the developed world...) Amazing what we used to think was 'normal' when we lived there. Glad to be done with it. Clean up the place big-time, and you might tempt a few back. Not us, but a few others.

#1 Posted by Never again, California — 05:30 AM | Wednesday, 24 December 2008
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In response to #1
As a returned expat I would like to respond to the ignormanus from california who obviously has a deluded image of this country and appears only to have evey lived in one place. That being Auckland ,and by the sounds a rough part. Every country has them! I have travelled the world and lived in london for 3 years. If Mr "never again" thinks NZ is full of randomn crime and dirty streets then he/they have never lived in London, Rio or Detroit. Wake up buddy. NZ is a beautiful country and it may have its share of social problems but lets get real and acknowledge they are no where near as bad as some countrys and cities (not to mention south central LA). New Zeland is undergoing market correction in respect of housing which is well due. But if you dont want to come back then thats great. We dont want you.

#18 Posted by Returned Expat — 10:31 AM | Wednesday, 24 December 2008
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I am late twenties & have travelled around a lot of the world. I love NZ. Yes, incomes are lower here than other developed nations... but there is life beyond money. My happiness comes from spending time with family & friends, fishing, diving and exploring the wonderful country we have. I can't believe all your negative comments above, they seem rather shallow... and in fact, the country could possibly be better off without you returning.
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My wife and I are returning home after 5/7 years away. We are looking forward to getting in the car, going to the beach, skiing, fishing, being with family and friends. There is a lot in NZ if it suits you, but if money/wealth is what your life's about then probably not. NZ's small town attitude and seeking world importance will change in time if enough of us go back. I'm looking forward to it.
 

neddy

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I read your message with great interest . Care to give me more advise as I am seeking to migrate . I been in the Real Estate industry for the past 25 years working for Multi National Company was retrench since 2007 have been working in Hongkong and china as Property Development Consultant. By the way please note I am not a Property Agent I deal with Mega project development specialise in Sydnication of project loan and deal structure due to the uniquness of my Professional I have difficulties in seeking similiar job employment in my country. Presently I am seeking to leave my country and migrate to NZ or OZ with the intention to doing business in general trading of Hareware or service provider business in NZ . Care to give your advise or opinion

If you are interested in OZ...
Sound like Sydney will be good for you. But they are not doing well at the moment. Hopefully, by the time you get your PR visa, things are starting to pick up. If so, your timing would be good.
 

imperialarms

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I read your message with great interest . Care to give me more advise as I am seeking to migrate . I been in the Real Estate industry for the past 25 years working for Multi National Company was retrench since 2007 have been working in Hongkong and china as Property Development Consultant. By the way please note I am not a Property Agent I deal with Mega project development specialise in Sydnication of project loan and deal structure due to the uniquness of my Professional I have difficulties in seeking similiar job employment in my country. Presently I am seeking to leave my country and migrate to NZ or OZ with the intention to doing business in general trading of Hareware or service provider business in NZ . Care to give your advise or opinion


are you from china? you speak like ur PRC
 
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