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Stark differences between HK’s MTR and SG’s MRT

Confuseous

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MTR helps London Overground enhance its punctuality

MTR’s reputation as one of the world’s top metros has attracted many international clients seeking its expertise.

MTR now operates the London Overground, 2 lines of the Beijing Metro, as well as parts of the Shenzhen and Hangzhou Metro systems in China, the Melbourne Metro in Australia and the Stockholm Metro in Sweden.

In 2014, it won a contract for a new rail project in Sydney. As part of the US$6.5-billion deal, MTR will deliver and operate the Australian city’s North West Rail Link, the largest public transport project in the country and its first fully automated rapid transit network.

MTR also provides consultation services to railway networks around the world. According to a 2013 Wall Street Journal report, these overseas operations have improved both the network’s punctuality at home, as well as its profitability. London Overground enhanced its punctuality from 88.4% in 2007 to 96.7% in 2013 after MTR took over its operations for a year.

Will the PAP government consider engaging MTR to help LG (NS) Kuek and his cohort of SAF officers? Or perhaps PAP thinks that SAF scholars and soldiers are better?

Continual investment in maintenance, upgrades and renewals to train system needed

Another key to MTR’s success in keeping Hong Kong’s subway in tip-top conditions is its willingness to continuously reinvest profits back into its MTR system.

“A railway requires ongoing investment and a lot of resources in order to keep it in tip-top form,” said Jacob Kam, the operations director of MTR. “Even for a system considered state of the art, in 10 years time, everything – signaling systems, urban railways – will have changed.”

Each year, US$645 million is invested in maintenance, upgrades and renewals to the MTR system. It’s a significant amount compared with many other cities and systems, said Prof Cervero.

In contrast, during the public inquiry in May 2012 into the major train breakdowns occurred in Dec 2011, previous CEO Saw Phaik Hwa became defensive when the COI questioned her about SMRT maintenance budgets.

AGC presented data showing SMRT did not raise its maintenance budgets in nearly 10 years since 2002, despite rising ridership, more frequent train runs and ageing assets. Ms Saw then stoutly defended the SMRT’s maintenance regime. She said SMRT had not only met, but exceeded, maintenance standards set out by rail manufacturers and the LTA. She claimed that money spent on mid-life upgrades for the trains had actually helped in saving maintenance cost.

When it was pointed out to her that the upgrades were mainly for the train cabins and air-conditioning units, Saw then said parts such as wheels and propulsion systems are “upgraded continuously” and are “changed on a regular basis.”

“If there is any need to upgrade, anything in the system, it would have been,” she added. Saw also blamed the new trains for the spike in train faults. The new trains were a source of bugs, she said. One of the COI panelists, Prof Lim of NTU, cited an SMRT internal report showing a 20% drop in maintenance cost per kilometer operated. Saw replied “that could be wrong numbers” or “errors in the parameters”.

She said the events that triggered the train breakdowns on Dec 15 and 17, 2011 were unprecedented. The trains stopped because a section of the electrical ‘third rail’ had dropped off after several support claws were dislodged. No power was being supplied to the trains. She said that nothing like that had happened before. Prof Lim then pointed out that the ‘third rail’ did sag in 2010 and before 2006. Saw said management was not aware of the seriousness of the events because the dropped claws were reinstated. To that, Prof Lim retorted, “You knew the risks, and you didn’t do enough. You implemented cable ties.”

High-tech tools to aid operations

MTR also invests and employs a range of high-tech tools to aid operations.

After the last trains depart from stations at about 1 a.m., more than 1,000 workers spring into action to maintain the system.

“Because of the high demand for track space and the small amount of down time, we need to quickly move engineering trains, deliver materials and provide space for people,” said Mr Kam. “We have an A.I. system that helps us optimize the use of space in a limited time.”

The A.I. program was specially designed and built for the MTR. “We also apply a lot of radio-frequency identification technology that helps monitor the condition of the trains and machinery and gives us an early warning in case of potential problems,” he explained.

Infrared monitors on tracks are used to detect cracks too small for the human eye to detect.

“We use man to do what machines can’t do, and machines to create efficiency and accuracy that’s beyond the reach of man,” said Mr Kam, summing up a principle that’s made Hong Kong’s MTR the envy of the world’s mass transit systems.

In the case of Singapore, it sounds more like a case of “What’s wrong with collecting more money?”

This is specially so on hearing what was revealed by the COI in 2012 that SMRT did not raise its maintenance budgets in nearly 10 years since 2002, despite rising ridership, more frequent train runs and ageing assets. In fact, COI reports showed that there was a 20% drop in maintenance cost per kilometer operated by SMRT.

A former SMRT staff even told TRE that many of the experienced engineering staff were “forced to retire” under the pretext of reorganization during Saw Phaik Hwa’s time. Apparently, these experienced engineering staff were deemed too “expensive” and their salaries would eat into SMRT’s profits.
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He said, “I can tell that during Saw’s time many veteran ASP Trains were forced to retire under the pretext of Re-Org. Those officers with decades of rail experience were considered too costly. They hired younger and fresh diploma holders without rail experience but cheaper and with few benefits especially medical and leave benefits.”

What caused SMRT to degenerate into a “money worshiper” at the expense of public service?

More comparisons here: http://www.tremeritus.com/2015/07/11/the-difference-between-hks-mtr-and-sgs-mrt/
 

eErotica69

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I am not a technical person so I cannot comment on the technical aspects.

But as I consumer, I find that the MTR is more frequent than MRT. Even during non-peak hours.
 

laksaboy

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It's amazing what you can achieve when you let competent people do their jobs instead of hiring cronies or military yes-men who can't make it in the private sector. :wink:
 

mojito

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It's amazing what you can achieve when you let competent people do their jobs instead of hiring cronies or military yes-men who can't make it in the private sector. :wink:

If they are the best of the best in sg, i can see why we need more FTs. :rolleyes:
 

Asterix

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Doesn't matter how advanced the technology or brand new the facilities are.

Risk of your having unpleasant contact with the riff raffs of any society will be greatly increased if you have to take public transport. The Island Line will be somewhat better than those that run in the New Territories in this regard, but still fraught with risks.

Anton Kiasi is right. His problem is telling the truth to the wrong sort of people.
 

frenchbriefs

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What cause to degenerate into a money worshipper at the expense of public service and quality?
The same thing that caused everything in singapore to degenerate,a maximise profit/gdp at all cost mentality,outsourcing to the lowest bidder,no interest whatsoever in building anything of substance.a society of
 

halsey02

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The STARK DIFFERENCE IS....HK MTR is manned by real civilian professional, whose CEO salary is most likely 1/3 of my goose (MG) Quack earns...
 

soIsee

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It's amazing what you can achieve when you let competent people do their jobs instead of hiring cronies or military yes-men who can't make it in the private sector. :wink:

I have always said 'inbreeding ' has fucked up the Papies and their cronies brains. LoLoLoL
 

NanoSpeed

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I am not a technical person so I cannot comment on the technical aspects.

But as I consumer, I find that the MTR is more frequent than MRT. Even during non-peak hours.

Oh, having just returned from Hongkong, I must say the MTR is very old, but very efficient. At no time did I have to wait for more than 3 minutes for a train to arrive.
 
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