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Israeli army video shows Hamas weapons at Al Shifa hospital

LordElrond

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Solid evidence. Pointing to a calendar as terrorists duty roaster and elevator shaft as Hamas tunnel.
 

red amoeba

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Asset
Just flatten the hospital and be done with it. Jungle laws apply, if you are in hospital you are not fit and don’t deserve to live. Period.
 

superpower

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Just flatten the hospital and be done with it. Jungle laws apply, if you are in hospital you are not fit and don’t deserve to live. Period.
If only the IDF had a smidgen of your honesty.

The hypocritical Zionists are committing a genocide behind the mask of fighting a righteous and humane war to exterminate terrorists.
 

orh mee suah

Alfrescian
Loyal
Your stated objective for the IDF appears justifiable on paper.

But in reality:
1. Is it even possible to completely 'eliminate' Hamas?
2. What's the upper limit of civilian casualties acceptable for Israel to achieve this objective, if it's even achievable? Already 11,200 Palestinians have been killed so far (cf 1,200 Israelis killed by Hams on Oct 7) in the Israeli offensive. Many are sick, injured, starving, going without water or electricity and living in ramshackle conditions because their homes have been bombed to smithereens. Patients are dying in hospitals because of lack of medical supplies and even water.

By any objective measure and in the world's opinion (apart from the US & Israel), Israel's retaliation so far is already deemed disproportionate and is beginning to look a lot like ethnic cleansing instead of just seeking to wipe out Hamas. Just so, South Africa, itself no stranger to repression and apartheid, has just applied to ICC to try Israel for war crimes.

Your stated objective for the IDF appears justifiable on paper.

But in reality:
1. Is it even possible to completely 'eliminate' Hamas?
2. What's the upper limit of civilian casualties acceptable for Israel to achieve this objective, if it's even achievable? Already 11,200 Palestinians have been killed so far (cf 1,200 Israelis killed by Hams on Oct 7) in the Israeli offensive. Many are sick, injured, starving, going without water or electricity and living in ramshackle conditions because their homes have been bombed to smithereens. Patients are dying in hospitals because of lack of medical supplies and even water.

By any objective measure and in the world's opinion (apart from the US & Israel), Israel's retaliation so far is already deemed disproportionate and is beginning to look a lot like ethnic cleansing instead of just seeking to wipe out Hamas. Just so, South Africa, itself no stranger to repression and apartheid, has just applied to ICC to try Israel for war crimes.
Hamas shouldn't have done what it did on Oct. 7.
Even if Hamas releases all the hostages, which have passports from 25 different countries, it must answer for the more than 1,200 people who were killed inside Isarel.
11,200 Palestinians in exchange for 1,200 Israelis is indeed disproportionate. Based on the population in the Arab world, the ratio should be approximately 30 Palestinian Arabs for every Israeli murdered in the Oct. 7 unprovoked attacks by the Hamas.
 

superpower

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Hamas shouldn't have done what it did on Oct. 7.
Even if Hamas releases all the hostages, which have passports from 25 different countries, it must answer for the more than 1,200 people who were killed inside Isarel.
11,200 Palestinians in exchange for 1,200 Israelis is indeed disproportionate. Based on the population in the Arab world, the ratio should be approximately 30 Palestinian Arabs for every Israeli murdered in the Oct. 7 unprovoked attacks by the Hamas.
So 1 Israel life = 30 Palestinian lives?

If that's your value system it's no wonder the world is such a mess.
 

superpower

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The Jews are a minority group but they make great contribution to the world in a variety of fields.
Attempts to wipe them out must fail.
When you treat another race like animals and think that you're worth 30 of them, then don't expect them to treat you like human beings too.
 

Boliao

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Solid evidence. Pointing to a calendar as terrorists duty roaster and elevator shaft as Hamas tunnel.

You mean this calendar that suggest Hamas terrorists named themselves "Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday..."? Or that they found weapons hidden within a MRI machine?

 

orh mee suah

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You mean this calendar that suggest Hamas terrorists named themselves "Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday..."? Or that they found weapons hidden within a MRI machine?

So, those are not the names of people but the days of the week in Arabic.

At the top of the calendar, it does say 'Al Aqsa Flood', which is the name of the Hamas operation and the date, Oct. 7.
The days of the week on the paper also begin with Sat, Oct. 7.

This news clip should remain in the social media until the Operation Swords of Iron is over.
 

Willamshakespear

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May Israel realized by now, if not LONG ago, centuries even of Human history, jew haters will ALWAYS hate NO MATTER what had been done to remove the hate.

Despite all attempts to be Humane, following the code of war conduct & rules of engagement, jew haters will NEVER accept evidences but twist EVERY effort & endeavor of Israel who is only attempting to find justice in a World ruled by cowards, naive liberals, faithfuls who believed in a religion of peace being twisted to serve demagogues, etc, whom WILL repeat & repeat lies mix with truths, over & over again in the belief that in such manner, lies will be regarded as truths. Just look at some posts in this forum...

May the mourning Israelis do what they have to do, within the conduct of war rules, & once the terrorists whom had SLAUGHTERED, TORTURED & KIDNAPPED innocents are eliminated, return back to Israel. Should there be any ICC tribunal be conducted, there are MANY MORE that awaits to be tried, such as UN, UNRWA, WHO, Amnesty International, MSF, World leaders whom support TERRORISM - the killing of innocents, etc.

Palestinians had been given the best Financial & Social treatment by Humanity for decades, & YET, they did not evolve, thanks to their brutal leaders whom had misused a peaceful religion to ensure Palestinians remain stupid & steep in hatred of Jews, the very jews whom had given up 70% of their conquered lands when Israel was invaded by other arab nations. Billion$ poured in & yet the result was evident on 7th Oct 2023.

May the ISRAELI PUNITIVE MILITARY OPERATIONS serve as a REMINDER to the Palestinians as well to the blinded UN agencies whom are the CAUSE for current crisis & deaths to 1400 innocent civilians in just a matter of hours, SHOULD such 7th OCT acts be repeated, Israelis WILL NOT HESISTATE to do the same - to destroy the terrorists & their supporters whom are even willing to sacrifice their own kids to support Terrorism.

Also, may Humanity's Leaders learn from this lesson taught by Israel - TO BE FIRM against terrorists, because they ARE animals whom knows not the lingo of Humans for Peace, but only the lingo of VIOLENCE. A religion of peace had been MISUSED by indolent clerics & greedy politicians to justify the killings of innocents which NO religion on Earth allows. Religion is but only one card to rouse & fool the population. There are other cards....

A 2 State solution would be best for Israel & Palestine, but based upon the horrors of how Palestinian rulers - terrorist Hamas had ruled - it may be impossible, at least in the current situation. However, Israel had proven to be no cowards but firm. If Jews, Israelis & Palestinian, along with jew haters & islamophobics cannot live in HARMONY, at least they can still live in Peace....

 
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