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is it like that say, once a muslim, always a muslim?

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Taiping man fails in bid to quash conversion to Islam

The 29-year-old’s parents converted him and his siblings when he was eight.

PETALING JAYA: A 29-year-old man has failed in his attempt to challenge his conversion to Islam before the Taiping High Court.

The man’s parents took him to the Taiping district religious office on Aug 15, 2002, and converted him and his siblings to Islam. He was eight at the time.

He claimed that he did not recite the “Kalimah Shahadah” (affirmation of faith) at the time of his conversion.

He also claimed that his family did not practise Islam after they converted, and that his parents regretted the decision to embrace the religion.

The man also said he has never practised Islam but has been practising Hinduism all his life.

He filed a suit before the High Court, seeking a declaration that he is not a Muslim and that his conversion to Islam was invalid.

The man named the Perak government and the state Islamic religious and Malay customs council as defendants.

Judicial commissioner Noor Ruwena Nurdin allowed the state government’s bid to quash the suit on grounds that the man should have pursued the conversion before the shariah court.

“It appears that the applicant is seeking to renounce the Islamic faith.

“This court does not have jurisdiction to hear the matter as it falls squarely under the shariah courts’ jurisdiction to first determine the validity of the conversion,” she said.

The court also took note that the man and his siblings previously filed a renunciation application before the shariah court but subsequently withdrew it.

“The court cannot speculate that, if he went on with (the shariah court application), he might be ordered to go for ‘counselling’ like in the case of a 37-year-old woman,” Ruwena said.

She was referring to a case involving a woman from Selangor, who is appealing to challenge her religious status before the Federal Court.

The Selangor Islamic religious council (Mais) succeeded in its appeal this year to reinstate the woman as a Muslim.

Before taking her case to the civil courts, the woman had filed an application before the shariah court seeking a declaration that she was no longer a Muslim, but the renunciation bid was rejected.
 

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https://www.malaymail.com/news/mala...-leaving-islam-is-death-mufti-reminds/1438733
 

UltimaOnline

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There is no way a Muslim could renounce Islam in Malaysia. A Malaysian Muslim may face the death penalty for trying.

In Singapore, just go to MUIS. There is no need to set an appointment. Tell them you need to submit your statutory declaration, renouncing your faith. They will ask you to fill up a simple form stating your particulars and that you are renouncing. You will then wait for about 15 mins for them to give you an acknowledgment letter. No letters will be sent to your postal address, your privacy is assured. In summary, the process is pretty straightforward and stress-free, without any personal and pressing questions asked.

Just another one of many ways in which Singapore is incomparably superior to Malaysia.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+renounce+islam+in+singapore
 

gsbslut

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There is no way a Muslim could renounce Islam in Malaysia. A Malaysian Muslim may face the death penalty for trying.

In Singapore, just go to MUIS. There is no need to set an appointment. Tell them you need to submit your statutory declaration, renouncing your faith. They will ask you to fill up a simple form stating your particulars and that you are renouncing. You will then wait for about 15 mins for them to give you an acknowledgment letter. No letters will be sent to your postal address, your privacy is assured. In summary, the process is pretty straightforward and stress-free, without any personal and pressing questions asked.

Just another one of many ways in which Singapore is incomparably superior to Malaysia.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+renounce+islam+in+singapore
in the first place, how they know one is a muslim or not? so i also can pretend to be muslim and go there renounce?
 

UltimaOnline

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in the first place, how they know one is a muslim or not? so i also can pretend to be muslim and go there renounce?

In Malaysia, they'll throw you in jail because they think you're really a Muslim trying to renounce Islam. You wanna try?
 

glockman

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Shouldn't faith be a matter of choice? After all, it's between us and our god, it's nobody else's business. But Islam is such a horrible and backward religion. I pity those who are trapped. But this chiobu Saudi author was brave, and now her life is in danger.

 

gsbslut

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Shouldn't faith be a matter of choice? After all, it's between us and our god, it's nobody else's business. But Islam is such a horrible and backward religion. I pity those who are trapped. But this chiobu Saudi author was brave, and now her life is in danger.

i better think twice about deepening my friendship with my muslim gal (fren)
 

kulgai

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There is no way a Muslim could renounce Islam in Malaysia. A Malaysian Muslim may face the death penalty for trying.

In Singapore, just go to MUIS. There is no need to set an appointment. Tell them you need to submit your statutory declaration, renouncing your faith. They will ask you to fill up a simple form stating your particulars and that you are renouncing. You will then wait for about 15 mins for them to give you an acknowledgment letter. No letters will be sent to your postal address, your privacy is assured. In summary, the process is pretty straightforward and stress-free, without any personal and pressing questions asked.

Just another one of many ways in which Singapore is incomparably superior to Malaysia.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+renounce+islam+in+singapore
The difference between 1st world and 3rd world country is stark instead
 

syed putra

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In Malaysia, they'll throw you in jail because they think you're really a Muslim trying to renounce Islam. You wanna try?
They dontch throw you in jail. Merely deny your right to change faith. This law has not been challenged in court yet for fear of religious repercussion.
If its a malay trying to renounce, They Merely just did not bother to make it official. No point. Just v9nt8nue eating pork and bonking han girls. Nobody will need to know,
This law also allows the authorities to chain malays into becoming subservient and obedient serfs.
 

mudhatter

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There is no way a Muslim could renounce Islam in Malaysia. A Malaysian Muslim may face the death penalty for trying.

In Singapore, just go to MUIS. There is no need to set an appointment. Tell them you need to submit your statutory declaration, renouncing your faith. They will ask you to fill up a simple form stating your particulars and that you are renouncing. You will then wait for about 15 mins for them to give you an acknowledgment letter. No letters will be sent to your postal address, your privacy is assured. In summary, the process is pretty straightforward and stress-free, without any personal and pressing questions asked.

Just another one of many ways in which Singapore is incomparably superior to Malaysia.

https://www.google.com/search?q=how+to+renounce+islam+in+singapore

that proves anothere of many ways that stinkypura is INFERIOR to malaysia.

why would any sane person even in their worst nightmares think abt leaving Islam the only true religion. it's absurdity. IMH is the right place for them. they are not fit for purpose, any society can't bear the burden of having such insane ppl in their midst.

absurdity such as these will imperil the functioning of any developed society.

stinkypura is a rare exception. it's a one party dictatorship, banana republic with no rule of law, no culture, nol history, no civilization, no scenery, no brands. nothing worth snot.

not for no reason is stinkypura called a peesai.
 
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