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Hooray! China gets its first aircraft carrier

Narong Wongwan

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Since when ah tiongs landed on the moon? No one caught mitt romney's joke?

The tiongs went to space only which the Russians and Americans did 50 years ago.

HeLLo,
China astronauts already LANDED on the moon.
Now, training Lady-Astronauts.
Everything with Super-Adjectives can be found in China.

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The End Justifies The Means
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The_Hypocrite

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wat scares me about china is they are catching up w the usa,,,,n usa is declining in space exploration etc,,,look...they cant even go back to the moon,,,

Since when ah tiongs landed on the moon? No one caught mitt romney's joke?

The tiongs went to space only which the Russians and Americans did 50 years ago.
 

swinewhacker

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God damn! I bet it stinks of shit in and around this giant water-turd. They ought to stink seal the entire shit carrier because the smell will give them away.

UP YOURS ZIPPERHEAD YELLOW DIRTY FUCKERS! :oIo:
 

Fook Seng

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Building a carrier is doable for PRC but operating a carrier group is another kettle of fish. If PRC cannot build the types of aircraft needed in a carrier then the carrier is only a white elephant. Then there the question of having the ASW and Aegis platforms as escort vessels plus nuclear subs that can deter the USN Los angles class sub. PLAN need at least 15-20 yrs before can match USN carrier battle group.

I am not following military might of nations for some time. But not so long ago, even US strikers were no match for Russian equivalents for raw speed and range. US strikers scored on maneuverability, useful in dog fights. In a ballistic missile vs striker battle, maneuverability may allow US strikers to dodge a missile or two but if several are fired at the same time, it will be difficult to dodge all.
 

Papsmearer

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I am not following military might of nations for some time. But not so long ago, even US strikers were no match for Russian equivalents for raw speed and range. US strikers scored on maneuverability, useful in dog fights. In a ballistic missile vs striker battle, maneuverability may allow US strikers to dodge a missile or two but if several are fired at the same time, it will be difficult to dodge all.

Nothing to do with maneuverability or missile dodging. Nothing to do with raw speed either. Today's missile are almost impossible to dodge. They are defeated by other counter measures like chaff, decoy flares, electronic jamming, RWR, etc. The USAF and USN philosophy has been to avoid engagement in dogfights for some time now. when u have AWACs and AEW, and you can spot the enemy long before they spot u, u can defeat them by an ambush, and by a salvo of BVR missiles. Most enemy fighters should not even know the US are there until the AAMRAM comes in for the kill on them. The US wants to make it as unfair as possible for the enemy.
 
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sleaguepunter

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I am not following military might of nations for some time. But not so long ago, even US strikers were no match for Russian equivalents for raw speed and range. US strikers scored on maneuverability, useful in dog fights. In a ballistic missile vs striker battle, maneuverability may allow US strikers to dodge a missile or two but if several are fired at the same time, it will be difficult to dodge all.

USN dun believe in dogfight since WW2. USN fighters was not design to dogfight, in fact, USN aviators were taught to dive and shoot and run away. USN fighters cannot outurn zeke but can outdive zeke so tactic was to dive in to attack jap aircraft and then climb to do all over again.

then missiles came along and USN believe in outshooting the opposition which was why AIM54 phoenix was develop for the F14 tomcat which have the range of over 100 miles at mach 5. fire all 6 at max range then turn escape enemy missiles. The US aviators are not as good as Top Gun suggest but a big part count the on the help given by the E2C hawkeye to outsmart the enemy. without the E2C, the capabilities of the USN aviators reduce by a lot. without the E2C, the "bubble" containing the CBG would be considerably smaller and give the CBG less reaction time out countermeasure in the event of an enemy attack.

As for balllistic missiles, it was claimed that the Aegis system can shoot down ballistic missiles but each ship had only either a 96 or 122 shot magazine depending on the ship class. so if PRC can one time target the CBG with 500 ballistic missiles confirm can overwhelm the CBG defense system.
 

Conqueror

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which was why AIM54 phoenix was develop for the F14 tomcat which have the range of over 100 miles at mach 5.

As for balllistic missiles, it was claimed that the Aegis system can shoot down ballistic missiles but each ship had only either a 96 or 122 shot magazine depending on the ship class. so if PRC can one time target the CBG with 500 ballistic missiles confirm can overwhelm the CBG defense system.


I still feel that satellites and radars can effectively pinpoints targets far away to give you time to think and to decide what strategy to use to overcome these would-be invaders. A stealth frigate is another surprise attack that you can use, to give you a hand.

Water borne craft should be unmanned too. Too many stuff to talk about.
 
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