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Dumb PAP lackeys scoring own goals playing racial cards together with WP

paulhong

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come on lah, these PAP lackeys who are serving their masters anyhow bring out the constitution just because they want to hantam their rivals WP? this is taken from the fabrications abt the PAP Facebook page (obviously riding on the Straits Times report ):

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eugene tan pointed out that 152 is not worded to protect the Malay rights but a special mention that the government of the day will take note of malay interest. 152 did not say must mollycoddle the malays. so i think what those PAP lackeys of that facebook page trying to do is to pacify the malays and highlight that WP is a Chinese-party but ended up opening a can of worms that malays rights are arguably not protected by the constitution.

but of course WP is smart to raise these racial issues in their youth forum to test the water whether the younger generation are keen to the idea of the common Singaporean identity instead of racial identity. i may be wrong but i don't recall WP bringing these issues in their campaign manisfesto or raised in parliament. but isn't SDP the first party to talk about removing 'racial' politics?

WP and PAP similar in nature? playing racial games. must be same roots. knn

dumb PAP lackeys.

eugene tan commentary on 152 some time ago :


themalaysianinsider.com/print/breakingviews/Special-position-of-the-Malays-Its-a-shield-not-a-sword-Eugene-Tan/

‘Special position of the Malays’: It’s a shield, not a sword — Eugene Tan

AUG 25 — The commitment of Singapore's founding generation of leaders to a multiracial ethos contributed to the island's failed merger with Malaysia. After independence, they sought to develop a “Singaporean Singapore” identity, while symbolically recognising the special position of Malays here.

As Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew explained in 2004 — and again in Parliament last week — the founding leaders were determined that the Chinese majority in Singapore, having “suffered communal bullying and discrimination during the two years we were a part of Malaysia”, will not discriminate against or bully any other race in turn.

The centrepiece of Singapore's attempt at inclusive citizenship for its minorities, especially the Malays, can be found in Article 152 of the Singapore Constitution. Article 152(1) states: “It shall be the responsibility of the Government constantly to care for the interests of the racial and religious minorities in Singapore.” And Article 152(2) recognises the “special position of the Malays” — “the indigenous people of Singapore”.

This means the government of the day has a responsibility to care for the interests of racial and religious minorities. This was agreed to in 1958, during the negotiations for self-government between the British colonial authorities and Singapore's all-party delegation. This commitment was incorporated into the preamble of the 1959 Constitution and is now found in Article 152.

Interests, duties and responsibilities — rather than rights and entitlements — constitute the de facto language of Singapore citizenship. Significantly, Article 152 does not use the word “rights” but “interests”.

Therefore, the constitutional safeguards as provided for in the article should be construed as political rather than legal. The special position of Malays in Singapore does not amount to the special rights Malays have in Malaysia. Likewise, the constitutional exhortation for the government to care for racial and religious minorities does not mandate affirmative action for them.

Article 152 should be seen as a shield, rather than a sword, that the minorities can use collectively against the government of the day if it fails to care adequately for them. Any government that fails to honour the spirit and substance of Article 152 will suffer the consequences at the ballot box.

Unsurprisingly, interpretations of Article 152(2) differ. Some feel the provision confers special rights on Malays. Others — Malays and non-Malays alike — argue that special rights for one ethnic group is antithetical to Singapore's multiracialism, undermines the ideal of meritocracy and would encourage a crutch mentality among Malays.

There is a semblance of preferential treatment extended to the Malay-Muslim community (99.6 per cent of Malays in Singapore are Muslim). For instance, Article 153 enables the establishment of Muis and the Syariah Court via the Administration of Muslim Law Act, thus providing for a limited degree of legal pluralism for the Muslim community. Muslims in Singapore are governed by Islamic law in matters of personal law such as marriage, divorce and inheritance.

The community also enjoys other privileges such as free tertiary education (modified in 1989 with means testing), state support for the mosque-building programme, and the appointment of a minister to help represent the interests of an important minority.

Today, the discourse on citizenship has shifted to the quality of belonging and inclusiveness in nation-building. Article 152 represents the aspiration to racial equality as an integral part of the country's multiracial ethos. To be sure, this remains a work-in-progress.

Hence MM Lee's opinion that a level-playing field will take “decades, if not centuries, and we may never get there” is a sobering thought. It raises urgent questions of how we can catalyse the nation-building process.

Fifty years ago this year, Singapore secured internal self-government with the promise to care for the interests of racial and religious minorities. The commitment to this promise remains and nourishes the nation-building endeavours of this accidental state. — The Straits Times

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asiaone.com/News/Latest%2BNews/Singapore/Story/A1Story20130303-405960.html

Workers' Party youth members discuss race issues

Race-based government policies and the stereotypes that they perpetuate were discussed at a Workers' Party (WP) forum on Sunday afternoon.

The two speakers, lawyer Terence Tan and civil society activist Nizam Ismail, cited a range of such policies including the race categories in the identity card, the Group Representation Constituency system which requires minority candidates to stand in each ward, the release of educational performance statistics by race, the ethnic quota for public housing and race-based self help groups.

Both called for a review of these Government policies so that a Singaporean identity could be promoted, as well as to enact specific laws on discriminatory behaviour.

More than 30 people attended the two-hour long forum, which centered on whether race matters to young Singaporeans. It was organised by the party's youth wing at the WP's headquarters at Syed Alwi Road.
 

kingrant

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Just because Kuan Yew had a hard time with the UMNO m&ds, it didnt have to mean that "the Chinese majority in Singapore....suffered communal bullying and discrimination during the two years we were a part of Malaysia”

That's just PAP propaganda when they were trying to capture Chinese votes to displace MCA.

How did LKY reacted when JBJ captured Anson we all still remember - he was no saint either. No incumbent loves a challenger. So just cos it was LKY who got the short end of the stick, the whole Chinese race had to shoulder his burden?
Everybody knew that KL had a Bumiputra policy first but he conned all of us into Merger and Malaysia notwithstanding, and then got shafted. And to cover his shortcomings, he framed the fight was over discrimination of Chinese in Malaysia, when KL govt evidently showed its contempt for PAP's dirty ploy to capture power.

As Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew explained in 2004 — and again in Parliament last week — the founding leaders were determined that the Chinese majority in Singapore, having “suffered communal bullying and discrimination during the two years we were a part of Malaysia”, will not discriminate against or bully any other race in turn.
 
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andyfisher

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I think you are being too kind to just call them dumb.

harry say mudland racist, but when he get his own fiefdom, he was beyond racist, also practice nepotism.

at least mudland, u know the rules. you play along. not happy can do something

here must diam diam, toe the line. knn pui ah
 
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