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NATO copter crash kills 38 in Afghanistan
Taliban claims responsibility for downing Chinook
Posted: Aug 6, 2011 5:42 AM ET
Last Updated: Aug 6, 2011 9:52 AM ET
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A Chinook transport helicopter, similar to this one, was reported to have been shot down by the Taliban in Wardak province. A Chinook transport helicopter, similar to this one, was reported to have been shot down by the Taliban in Wardak province. (Anja Niedringhaus/Associated Press)
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A NATO helicopter crash in eastern Afghanistan has killed 31 U.S. troops and seven Afghan soldiers, Afghan President Hamid Karzai says.
Some of the deadliest military air crashes in Afghanistan since 2001:
Sept. 21, 2010: U.S. Army Blackhawk crashes in southern Zabul province, killing nine troops on board, including four Navy SEALs.
May 30, 2007: U.S. Chinook crashes while under fire in southern Helmand, killing one British, one Canadian and five American troops.
Sept. 2, 2006: British Nimrod aircraft crashes near Kandahar in the south, killing 14 crew members.
Aug. 16, 2005: Spanish helicopter crashes near the western city of Herat, killing 17 Spanish soldiers.
June 28, 2005: U.S. helicopter is shot down in eastern Kunar province during a rescue operation, killing 16 special operations troops.
April 6, 2005: U.S. Chinook helicopter crashes in a sandstorm near eastern Ghazni, killing 15 American troops and three civilian contractors.
NATO confirmed one of its helicopters crashed overnight in the Savd Abad district of Wardak province but has not released details of casualties.
In a statement, the alliance also confirmed there was "enemy activity in the area," but did not elaborate.
A senior official with the U.S. administration, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that a helicopter carrying 31 U.S. special operations forces and seven Afghan soldiers was apparently shot down by insurgents.
It was the highest number of American casualties recorded in a single incident in the decade-long war in Afghanistan.
Karzai expressed his condolences to U.S. President Barack Obama in a statement released by his office.
A NATO official in Brussells told NBC News the helicopter involved was a twin-rotor Chinook used for transport.
Taliban spokesman Zabiullah Mujahid said insurgents downed a U.S. military helicopter in Wardak after the aircraft fired on a house where Taliban fighers were gathering Friday night.
Eight insurgents died in the incident, Mujahid said.
Must be RPG
So is the technology they salavge from the Chinook going to be sold to Russia or China?
Don't flatter the Yankees!
Russians always made better and stronger helicopters. Alll the world's heaviest lifting helicopters & transporters are Soviet / Russian's. Not USA. PRC also made the most unman combat helicopters and exporting them via e.g. Paris Air Shows.
US helicopters are rubbish!
Only PAP go spent tax dollars on them.
It is the Navy Seals
US special forces Afghan helicopter downed 'by Taliban'
Thirty US troops, said to be mostly special forces, have been killed, reportedly when a Taliban rocket downed their helicopter in east Afghanistan.
Seven Afghan commandos and a civilian interpreter were also on the Chinook, officials say.
US sources say the special forces were from the Navy Seal unit which killed Osama Bin Laden, but are "unlikely" to be the same personnel.
This is the largest single US loss of life in the Afghan conflict.
The numbers of those killed have now been confirmed by the Nato-led mission in Afghanistan.
The Chinook went down in the early hours of Saturday in Wardak province, said a statement from President Hamid Karzai's office.
It was returning from an operation against the Taliban in which eight insurgents are believed to have been killed.
A senior official of President Barack Obama's administration said the helicopter was apparently shot down, Associated Press news agency reports.
An official with the Nato-led coalition in Afghanistan told the New York Times the helicopter was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade.
The BBC's Quentin Sommerville in Kabul says it is rare for the Taliban to shoot down aircraft.
The Taliban say they have modified their rocket-propelled grenades to improve their accuracy but that may not be true, our correspondent says.
Nato's worst Afghan moments
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Source: BBC and news agencies
- 6 April 2005 - Chinook crash in Ghazni province kills 15 US soldiers and three civilian contractors
- 28 June 2005 - 16 US troops killed when Taliban bring down Chinook in Kunar province
- 16 August 2005 - 17 Spanish soldiers die when Cougar helicopter crashes near Herat
- 5 May 2006 - 10 US soldiers die after Chinook crashes east of Kabul
- 2 Sept 2006 - 14 UK personnel killed when RAF Nimrod explodes following mid-air refuelling
- 18 August 2008 - 10 French soldiers killed in Taliban ambush east of Kabul
- 6 August 2011 - 31 US special forces and seven Afghan soldiers killed in Chinook crash
"The president of the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan expresses his sympathy and deep condolences to US President Barack Obama and the family of the victims," the statement from President Karzai said.
President Obama, too, issued a statement paying tribute to the Americans and Afghans who died in the crash.
"We will draw inspiration from their lives, and continue the work of securing our country and standing up for the values that they embodied. We also mourn the Afghans who died alongside our troops in pursuit of a more peaceful and hopeful future for their country," the statement said.
Reports say more than 20 of the US dead were Navy Seals.
A US military source has confirmed to the BBC that they were from Seal Team Six - the same unit which killed Bin Laden in Pakistan in May.
However, US officials have told both the BBC and AP they do not believe that any of those who took part in the Bin Laden operation were on the downed helicopter.
The size of Team Six, an elite unit within the Seals, which is officially called the Naval Special Warfare Development Group, is not known.
Several air force personnel, a dog and his handler, a civilian interpreter, and the helicopter crew were also on board, AP reports.
The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) said it was mounting an operation to recover the helicopter and find out why it crashed. It said there had been "enemy activity in the area" where it went down.
A Taliban spokesman said insurgents had brought down the helicopter with a rocket after US and Afghan troops attacked a house in the Sayd Abad district of Wardak where insurgents were meeting late on Friday, Associated Press said.
Sayd Abad, near the province of Kabul, is known to have a strong Taliban presence.
A Wardak government spokesman quoted by AFP news agency agreed with this, saying the helicopter had been hit as it was taking off.
A local resident told the BBC Pashto service a rocket had hit the helicopter.
"What we saw was that when we were having our pre-dawn [Ramadan] meal, Americans landed some soldiers for an early raid," said Mohammad Wali Wardag.
"This other helicopter also came for the raid. We were outside our rooms on a veranda and saw this helicopter flying very low, it was hit by a rocket and it was on fire."
There are currently about 140,000 foreign troops - about 100,000 of them American - in Afghanistan, fighting the Taliban insurgency and training local troops to take over security.
All foreign combat forces are due to leave Afghanistan by the end of 2014 and some troop withdrawals have already taken place.
Nato has begun the process of handing over control of security in some areas to local forces, with Bamiyan becoming the first province to pass to Afghan control in mid-July.
An increase in US troop numbers last year has had some success combating the Taliban in the south of Afghanistan, but attacks in the north, which was previously relatively quiet, have picked up in recent months.
Obama wears T-shirt to work in Oval Office:
NATO investigates deadly Afghan helicopter crash
Sun Aug 7, 2011 5:26am GMT
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U.S. President Barack Obama holds a conference call from Camp David, Maryland, in this August 6, 2011 photo release. A NATO helicopter crashed during a battle with the Taliban in Afghanistan, killing 31 U.S. soldiers and seven Afghans, the Afghan president said on Saturday, the deadliest single incident for foreign troops in 10 years of war. According to the White House, Obama held a briefing on the tragedy in Afghanistan with Defense Secretary Leon Panetta, Admiral Mike Mullen, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, National Security Advisor Tom Donilon and Chief of Staff Bill Daley. REUTERS/Pete Souza/The White House/Handout
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KABUL (Reuters) - Foreign forces in Afghanistan were investigating on Sunday the crash of a helicopter believed to have been shot down, killing 30 U.S. soldiers, seven Afghans and an interpreter in the deadliest single incident for foreign troops in a decade of war.
The Taliban quickly claimed to have shot down the troop-carrying helicopter with a rocket-propelled grenade, although the Islamist militant group often exaggerates incidents involving foreign troops or Afghan government targets.
In Washington, a U.S. official said the helicopter was believed to have been shot down. The Pentagon and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) in Afghanistan said overnight the cause of the crash was being investigated.
The crash and its high death toll occurred two weeks after foreign forces started a security handover to Afghan troops and police -- to be completed by the end of 2014 -- and at a time of growing unease about the increasingly unpopular and costly war.
The Chinook crashed in central Maidan Wardak province, just west of the country's capital Kabul, on Friday night.
"No words describe the sorrow we feel in the wake of this tragic loss," General John Allen, who took over from General David Petraeus three weeks ago as ISAF commander, said in a statement released overnight.
"All of those killed in this operation were true heroes who had already given so much in the defence of freedom."
A U.S. official said some of the dead Americans were members of the Navy's special forces SEAL Team 6 -- the unit that killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in May in Pakistan, but that none of the dead had been part of the bin Laden raid.
The crash was the deadliest single incident for U.S. troops in Afghanistan, ISAF said.
U.S. Defence Secretary Leon Panetta said in a statement on Saturday that the United States would "stay the course" to complete the mission in Afghanistan, a sentiment echoed by NATO Secretary General Anders Fogh Rasmussen.
The crash will likely raise more questions about the security transition and how much longer troops should stay. All foreign combat troops are due to leave by the end of 2014, but some U.S. lawmakers question whether that is fast enough.
U.S. and other NATO commanders have claimed success in reversing a growing insurgency in the Taliban's southern heartland, although insurgents have demonstrated an ability to adapt their tactics and mount attacks in other areas.
But violence is at its worst in Afghanistan since U.S.-backed Afghan forces toppled the Taliban government in late 2001, with high levels of foreign troop deaths, and record civilian casualties during the first six months of 2011.
Afghan President Hamid Karzai "shared his deep sorrow and sadness" with his U.S. counterpart, Barack Obama, and the families of the victims, his palace said on Saturday.
Last year was the deadliest of the war for foreign troops in Afghanistan with 711 killed. The crash in Maidan Wardak means at least 375 foreign troops have been killed so far in 2011. More than two-thirds were American, according to independent monitor www.icasualties.com and figures kept by Reuters.
(Editing by Ron Popeski)
This is not the latest nor the biggest but this is the very common Russian helicopter used for fire department, no tail rotor:
Yesterday several of them were used to pick water from Moscow's park lake to fight fire of a warehouse. No need SCDF type fire engine or pumps. No need Sai Chwee Newater or CB Marina Barrage.
8月6日，在俄罗斯首都莫斯科，一架消防直升机从湖中取水救火。当日，莫斯科南区一仓库突发火灾，政府出动 多架消防直升机在事发现场附近的查理基诺公园湖中取水救火，引起众多在湖边游玩的市民驻足观看。新华社记者 姜克红摄
Hope more copper carry troop are down. Already 10 year cause civil war.
Save the Earth
The US Navy Seal Team 6 that claimed to kill Osama Bin Laden is so soon killed in the hands of Taliban.
Men's best peace effort is war, elimination materialize the ultimate stability.
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