Slot games, Casino Rewards & Privileges

[rottingaple]

hi may i know, what is the minimum roulette bet in mbs? is it $1 or $2? if i only want to play odd/even or black/red.

[justl00king]

Was at rws yesterday...

Anyone notice that there seems to be much lesser punters as before?

Used to see big crowds gather around the tables, but now many tables either closed or empty with no players.

[Mindless]

Was at rws yesterday...

Anyone notice that there seems to be much lesser punters as before?

Used to see big crowds gather around the tables, but now many tables either closed or empty with no players.

Yeah. I was there too. Not sure if its got to do with the long weekend coming up and people are off to somewhere further like the mountain.... Usually double GP Wed is quite pack, but not yesterday.

As usual, I started at GR. Not much action again. I picked the same 2 machines I played the day before.

Moved inside to ID. Surprisingly, 2 5K were vacant. Must be lemon. All the regulars were they are all playing the FK instead. Nevermind, try try. Took a while to get a feature. So so payout. This continues for a while. BR was up and down and hovering. So I continue playing and clocking points. Finally, I am getting sian of this up and down and increased bet to 300/450cr. Hit a feature at 450cr. All the 10/13/15/20 free games are so so, so I decided to try 25. Wow, this is the best feature. No retrigger, I got A, K, Chye+A FH and winning cr was ~99k. I walked away leaving the winning cr on the screen (Kia style).

Moved into PS. Played here and there and returning my BR to a few machines here and there. The 5K and 5D I touched were just not giving exciting features nor retrigger. Finally, I played a standalone 5K that always makan me. First 2 features were bad. The 3rd feature, I max bet 450cr. Was thinking about the earlier game at ID, so I say ok, lets try the White Fish (25) again. Wow, 2 retriggers. Picked Black Fish and another retrigger. Finally, 3 retriggers. But as its almost time to go home liao, I didnt enjoy a long and steady free games. I was pressing the take win button all the way and finished all the free games in under 10mins. Total cr 120k!!! Again, I left the winning credits on the screen (Kia style)!!!

2 exciting features on a Wed (Finally) and both came from the 25 free games which I normally dont pick!!!

Cheers and good luck to the long weekend warriors.

[Mindless]

[QUOTE=bearbearfury;1261418]

no lah, RWS slots is quite tight and 90% of the bonus feature suck as i have noticed....

I think (Just my own gauge):
- 50% of the features are below average (10-30 times Cr) => bet 60 and get upto 2000
- 40% are average (30-60 times Cr) => bet 60 and get upto 3600
- 10% extraordinary (>60 times Cr) => bet 60 and get at least 3600 cr onwards

For a player to sustain play, we need to get a average payout machine. A below average machine will suck BR dry in no time unless this machine is giving very frequent featues.

Feel free to comment. Cheers.

[Kia0042]

Congrats Bro Mindless!
My Wed trip report - won $3k.

It has been a while that I did not leave a nice winning credits displayed on the screen until last evening. I finally had one nice feature hit from a 2cts 5D bet 300cr total winning 120k cr. I hit a FH phoenix x10 and FH Aces x8 and other combi.
My initally machine 5cts 5K was still running bad timing, it was my first machine of the day and I donated $500 to see a rotten egg . 2nd machine was 2cts 5K also makan $800 and gave me an ave and below payout. The lucky 2cts 5D was my 3rd machine of the day and my first feature was an ave payout and I've choosen to continue. It didn't disappointed me by giving me a FH phoenix. Actaully I wanted to return to my favorites 5cts 5K but it was shutdown! ~~~ and that's why I picked that lucky 2cts 5D to play.
I have a $1k+ profits by then and I decided to use only this winning for the rest of my game time, I reminded myself not to make a lost trip again.
Picked another 2cts 5K and a guy told me that the machine had just payout quite a lot liao, still play? I thanks him for the info and I did not ask "quite a lot" mean how much? $500 or $5k? Nevertheless, I always like to play a machine that has payout rather than those 500x no feature machine. I inserted my winning profits 66,000credits and started my game. Play 300cr and well, if the guy who gave me the info saw how I turned my 66,0000cr into 250,0000credits, he will probably go and hit his head against the wall. Basically, I did not get FH cai or FH Lu, what I had from each feature was a FH Aces or King x10 or x8. I hit feature almost every 30-50spins and at least had a FH from each feature. Only one word to describe my feeling at that time "sibei song!".
I was thinking to make somemore and had more fun (already won $5k+ )....... greedy again, I continued the game and eventually no more feature, I met the 500x no feature timing and I was betting max all the way and burnt off $2k+. Said to myself time to leave, the machine "cannot liao", so left with $3k profits. Not bad.

[Kia0042]

[QUOTE=Mindless;1261958]

I think (Just my own gauge):
- 50% of the features are below average (10-30 times Cr) => bet 60 and get upto 2000
- 40% are average (30-60 times Cr) => bet 60 and get upto 3600
- 10% extraordinary (>60 times Cr) => bet 60 and get at least 3600 cr onwards

For a player to sustain play, we need to get a average payout machine. A below average machine will suck BR dry in no time unless this machine is giving very frequent featues.

Feel free to comment. Cheers.

This is what I think of a slot machine usually payout (from my game experiences) :
Feature payout 500-2,000cr is below average, (30-50% of the time, which mean you get such result for 3~5 times out of 10 feature games).
Feature payout between 2,000-6,000cr is average, (40-50%) Mostly eat a bit and pay back a bit.
Feature payout between 6,000cr~10,000 is above average, (10-20%), may consider to continue for a little more time to see the next few feature games result, possibility of hitting a super good is higher than getting a super bad one.
Super good payout 10,000cr and above (1-5%) Run asap coz you probably only get this result 1 out of 40 feature games.
Super bad payout out less than 500cr (5-10%). Giveup asap before you get burnt.

[Mindless]

[QUOTE=Kia0042;1262026]

This is what I think of a slot machine usually payout (from my game experiences) :
Feature payout 500-2,000cr is below average, (30-50% of the time, which mean you get such result for 3~5 times out of 10 feature games).
Feature payout between 2,000-6,000cr is average, (40-50%) Mostly eat a bit and pay back a bit.
Feature payout between 6,000cr~10,000 is above average, (10-20%), may consider to continue for a little more time to see the next few feature games result, possibility of hitting a super good is higher than getting a super bad one.
Super good payout 10,000cr and above (1-5%) Run asap coz you probably only get this result 1 out of 40 feature games.
Super bad payout out less than 500cr (5-10%). Giveup asap before you get burnt.

Thanks. Congrats to you too.
I suppose you are referring to a 60/150cr bet above.

Cheers.

[hokkien]

Chio ceweks nice!

Got any happening bo?

That time I prefer karaoke ceweks coz of safety
If just pick from outside who knows the next moment someone knocking on your door saying that was his wife (isteri) than tua kong liao

[Kia0042]

[QUOTE=Mindless;1262112]

Thanks. Congrats to you too.
I suppose you are referring to a 60/150cr bet above.

Cheers.

oh yah, base on 60cr bet. Experiences from my favorites 5cts 5k.

[Mindless]

Thursday FR.
Went upstairs to SH. My fav 5k and FK are available. I chose the 5K. Managed to get some ave features. While running the feature, I played the WTG next to it. Hit a feature with 8 free games and 2 wild, that gave me 20k cr. phew.

Switched to the FK. Not bad, Fish FH X 5 at 150 cr. behind me, an uncle getting many features on a 5D. He upped his cr to 100k. During my FK feature, I played the other 5k simultaneously too and hitting another ave feature.

Just when I was wondering I haven't seen the 2 sisters, they walked in. The younger one wanted to play the 5k and stared at the machine which was still running my feature. As soon as I pulled out my Tito, she put her bag on the seat and chop the machine. But she didn't play. She just played a 5d behind. As usual, punching away at the innocent machine and ordering the JP attendant to change her Tito to $50 notes a couple of times. her style is max bet and banging and withdraw tito to $50 notes which only last 2 spins per note. Maybe I am biased against them, but really, whenever they are around, it just gets into me. The elder one even "complaint" loudly to her brother that the other 5d is having non-stop feature like automatic. When I hear this, it makes my blood boil. Although not commenting on my machine, I think she is just jealous and Bo seh.

Anyway I had a pretty good run on my FK too. Managed to grow my BR to 50k on 150cr. Then I decided to leave the disturbing place and moved to PS.

Along the way, I also played the 10c 5d. The white hair uncle is no where to be seen. I thought I will just try $200-300 but since the feature didn't come, I tried and tried until I put in$1.3k before I hit feature on 60cr. Chose 15 free games and it retrigger twice. Heng ah, I managed to win 15k cr. upped $200 only.

In PS, I had mostly below ave and ave features only. No extraordinary ones like the previous outing. Anyway, I am satisfied with a positive outing.

Cheers and good luck.

[jjcc888]

Yesterday one of my newer secretaries who started working here only about 3 months back came to me and said "I heard from the rest that you always go MBS...." Alamak

I said "Not anymore - not since Annual Levy expired last August 2011 .......... can't afford to go as lost too much ..... now will only be on $100 Daily Levy when accompanied with Free Roooms - now I don't even bother to step in when collecting my free mooncakes or the free concerts since my Slot Luck is so terrible sighzzzzzzzzzzzz
Now with the Much TIGHTER slots at BOTH casinos - also not much FUN anymore -
NO Shiok feeling after paying the expensive entertainment fee - no entertainment obtained but only frustration + empty br/pocket !!!!!!!

She then confessed that she'd lost 150k playing MBS slots
AND the reason why she had to go back to work
Her MBS Annual Levy expired just a month ago

I replied "Sama sama - my losses about there too "
Think Average Loss for a one year period for most

She said with the Public Holiday still worth paying $100 to maximise 24-hour timing
Stupid authorities should allow for $30 6-hour levy so that we kiasu ones WON'T have to die-die STAY the whole 24 hours and Lose more during that longer period
6 Hours is just about nice to satisfy that slot urge with modest BR ?

Anyway I satisfy my slot urge playing my iPhone Aristocrat 5D etc
Don't have to lose real $$$ - leaving me to spend my hard-earned $$$ ELSEWHERE

I'm now in the midst of plotting my next casino outing hehehe
Thinking of the 2/1/2013 4D3N KL/Malacca new Costa Cruise departing from the new Marina Bay Cruise Centre [Groupon Deal]
Will be a "Kill many birds with one stone" thingy here
- post-Birthday Cruise present for mom [otherwise known as My Reluctant Travel Companion where casinos/gambling are present]
- my Clearing Leave vacation
have to convince mom that I WON'T be spending all my time in the casino as there'll be shore excursions etc and that it WON'T be boring for her
Fingers crossed I'll have the usual Beginners' Luck with this new casino/ship

My next holiday could well be a DIY to France in May {with some 'can click' tour members from my last Europe trip} after a free China land tour [probably choosing Beijing] from Travel Agency in April ?

[Mindless]

Stupid authorities should allow for $30 6-hour levy so that we kiasu ones WON'T have to die-die STAY the whole 24 hours and Lose more during that longer period
6 Hours is just about nice to satisfy that slot urge with modest BR ?

Hi. I beg to differ with your view. 6 hr $30 level will not only attract people like you who will maximize the 6 hrs, but will also likely attract the not so well to do people to go to the casino to try their luck. It will be more damaging than the $100 levy which serves as a deterrent for the latter group. Moreover people may not hesitate to pay another $30 to extend another 6 hr. No offence.

I don't think the authority is stupid.

Cheers.

[Kia0042]

Friday (Public Holiday) trip report - Total damage Lost $4.5k (Morning 2.5k and Evening 2k )


Game time from 3AM, warmup round SS but lost $200.
2nd machine 5cts 5k, not bad but there was a VERY IRRITATING anutie kept standing behind me and watched me playing, nice looking one still acceptable but this "bitter gourd" face one, walao, really cannot make it. Why was she alone at 3AM-5AM, not playing but watching at people!?? I was doing pretty well with my 5k but I have to say I really cannot tarhan but have to walk far far away. Made a little profits from the machine though.
5AM+, not many players around the area so played 3rd and 4th machine 2cts 5K and 5D at the same time. Inserted all my BR into both machines 80k+ cr and 70k+ cr, bet 300cr on both. Mati kun curry .... both were the most bloodiest blood sucking vampires, drained all my br within an hour.
I reach home not even 7AM.

Evening section 8PM-11PM (Will NEVER NEVER visit RWS on PH next time, trapped in the traffic jam for about an hour, from Lower delta raod to sentosa gateway all the way to the car park, usual time 8mins but it took 50mins last evening)
When I reach B1 car park (the big public car park) where the bottleneck was, I noticed it was closed due to "overloaded", I knew why it casued such a massive jam from Sentosa gateway into the car park, non-member and silver members car owners were force to change lane / Q to enter the public carpark, the lanes towards vip car park/taxi stand were almost blocked by these cars! The management were STUPID enough to CLOSE B1 entrance, they should have just let those Q-ing cars drive in and keep the lanes free. Damn it!
So I finally reach the casino floor, crowded and noisy (the getai) so I pick Premium slot to start my game.
1st machine 20cts 5D- $1k to get 1 rotten egg.
2nd machine 10cts 5K- $600 to hit feature with re-trigger and gave a return payout, no gain no lose. A bit sian, so walked to 5cts FFF, long time no touch 5cts FFF liao so try try. Don't feel like walking in to PS area coz many people sure cannot find 5d or 5k machines there.
Tried a few FFF 5D and CSD machines, really cannot make it, FFF is still FFF, it never change, the machines just too "difficult" to play.

[Mindless]

2nd machine 5cts 5k, not bad but there was a VERY IRRITATING anutie kept standing behind me and watched me playing, nice looking one still acceptable but this "bitter gourd" face one, walao, really cannot make it.

You know how the 2 sisters deal with that? She used a Tito to stick on the top left hand corner to cover her CR and bet. Of course there are also the "personal" JP attendant to be their bodyguard. Another way is to bang hard on the machine and appear fierce that should scare her. Hahahha.

Agree that playing on PH and weekends are bad. Crowded and not many options to choose. The worst time is during CNY. I was there at 2nd floor SH and people literally have to queue up behind for their chance to play........

[jjcc888]

Hi. I beg to differ with your view. 6 hr $30 level will not only attract people like you who will maximize the 6 hrs, but will also likely attract the not so well to do people to go to the casino to try their luck. It will be more damaging than the $100 levy which serves as a deterrent for the latter group. Moreover people may not hesitate to pay another $30 to extend another 6 hr. No offence.

I don't think the authority is stupid.

Cheers.

But paying $100 for 24 hours is FORCING the kiasu ones to MAX OUT FULL 24 hours leh - with Higher/Increased BRs in the process

Those who MUST go in to gamble (whether in the poorer not-so-eligible-to-gamble-away-their-monies group or not) WILL do so whether it's $100/24 hrs OR $30/6 hrs etc - and extend as much as their BRs allow (or disallow hahaha )

WHEREAS those in the Play for FUN (TRY LUCK) Category like me : may well just stick to their original MODEST BR for the reasonable 6-hr playtime limit - if need to increase playtime,just add-on so long as don't go overboard with the new BR - DIO BOH ???

TRUE tho' - BALANCING the needs of those Who Can and Who Shouldn't is NOT Easy .......

OK - My Costa Victoria Cruise 4D3N 2/1/13 is ON
Looking forward to my Casino Attack there hahahaha

[Mindless]

But paying $100 for 24 hours is FORCING the kiasu ones to MAX OUT FULL 24 hours leh - with Higher/Increased BRs in the process

Those who MUST go in to gamble (whether in the poorer not-so-eligible-to-gamble-away-their-monies group or not) WILL do so whether it's $100/24 hrs OR $30/6 hrs etc - and extend as much as their BRs allow (or disallow hahaha )

WHEREAS those in the Play for FUN (TRY LUCK) Category like me : may well just stick to their original MODEST BR for the reasonable 6-hr playtime limit - if need to increase playtime,just add-on so long as don't go overboard with the new BR - DIO BOH ???

TRUE tho' - BALANCING the needs of those Who Can and Who Shouldn't is NOT Easy .......

OK - My Costa Victoria Cruise 4D3N 2/1/13 is ON
Looking forward to my Casino Attack there hahahaha

I think all gamblers started with the "play for fun" mentality but evolved from there into a seasoned or professional gamgler. It's best not to loosen the controls while the $100 is effective to a certain extent.

good luck for your costa cruise. I am always curious how the "ang moh" cruise compares to the Asian one eg star cruise. On the Travel Chanel's, the ang mo cruise looks very class and impressive....

[Densensei]

Hi bros and sis, my first posting here. just want to share an opinion. I feel slot machines are rigged to a certain extent, and it is possible to change to payout rate with a touch of the button. This is possible with server based gaming. It seems we're playing at the "mercy" of the casino operators, who can change a hot machine to a loose one at their whim and fancy.By the way, does anyone when the new aruze games like Chinese Queen or Geisha will appear at RWS? I hate travelling to Genting.

[justl00king]

That time I prefer karaoke ceweks coz of safety
If just pick from outside who knows the next moment someone knocking on your door saying that was his wife (isteri) than tua kong liao

Yes, always wise to play it safe!

[justl00king]

I think all gamblers started with the "play for fun" mentality but evolved from there into a seasoned or professional gamgler. It's best not to loosen the controls while the $100 is effective to a certain extent.

Agreed.

Lowering of levy amount will just make for more frequent trips. Just like having annual levy makes you want to go more often.

[Kia0042]

Hi bros and sis, my first posting here. just want to share an opinion. I feel slot machines are rigged to a certain extent, and it is possible to change to payout rate with a touch of the button. This is possible with server based gaming. It seems we're playing at the "mercy" of the casino operators, who can change a hot machine to a loose one at their whim and fancy.By the way, does anyone when the new aruze games like Chinese Queen or Geisha will appear at RWS? I hate travelling to Genting.

Welcome to the thread.
Does the following statement helps to correct your thinking about server based slot machines?
Casinos can loosen or tighten the slot machines with the flip of a switch?
False. The slot machines have a computer chip in them that determines the pay back percentage. These are preset at the factory. In order for a casino to change the pay back, they would have to change the chip. In most jurisdictions there is paper work that has to be filled and submitted to the Casino Control Commission for each machine if the chip is changed. It is time consuming and the chips are very expensive. For this reason, it is more economical to decide on the pay back percentages before purchasing the machines and having the factory ship them with the proper chip.


If you still have a worry, you can always choose not to play server based machines. How do we know which machines are server based and which are not? Simple. The typical look of a server based slot machine - Animated LCD screen on the upper part of the cabinet, it is able to display a pay table according to the number of credits you bet.
A trypical look of non server based machine, the pay table is PRINTED and PASTED on the cabinet.

I knew only Aristocrat Geisa and not Aruza, I pay very less attention to Aruza games, probably some other forumers here can answer your question about Geisa and Chinese Queen.