Slot games, Casino Rewards & Privileges

[alchemist]

hi guys/gals

just came back from KL genting..

first day (Sunday after dinner..already lost my/our total bankroll of RM700-RM1000)
hit a few free games features,but all very " poor" payout.!

no luck..at all ..!

Call it day after losing permitted budget !

next day, withdraw another RM2000 from ATM
(my wife and me ..each about RM700 bankroll for the casino )...
(also cannot recover!)

total damaged was slightly abit above my normal daily bankroll (RM700)
as never hit any big jackpot to cover. ( bo pian arh!)

So dare not go into the casino this morning but "check out" of Highlands instead by 9.30am!
Usually, I check out at 12 pm after spending another 3 hrs in the casino)

So early drive off and reach Home by 4.30pm (including lunch and shopping at Tesco for about 2 hrs)

Haha... !
cheers

Next trip, will be driving up again on National Day.
(but may go in July as well for "durian fest" if got free invitation)

[CoffeeMe]

A glance at my Jan-Jun 2012 fact sheet now: RWS -($147,050.00) hmmmmm... 5~6 trips a week, no eye see...[/QUOTE]

Thanks for your honesty bro kia. Really appreciate it. $150k for six months, that will be $25k a month. Phew..
Seriously if have no such $ to roll, better stay away
Nnow i only once awhile play. Also trying to kill the habbit (last time whatever in pocket also gone to the machine), unless the kick come, then bo pian gotta go and "let go"
There was once i won pink panther $1.4k + $2.1k at the same night at LW, but the following day i lost all.. Like what bro blackhole said, you can win 10x, but also can lose it in a night. Heart pain seh..
Other than BR, slots really depend on endurance. There's once i put $500 play 60crdts until left 364 credits then came a feature and win back.

There's a pattern that happens to me whenever play slots; when the machine hit feature and pays only abit more than how much i lost to the machine initially, most of the time it will eat my money. Does this happend anybody here?
Also, if a feature happens and no confidents of striking big, better play with many features and wait for surprise.

[Kia0042]

There's a pattern that happens to me whenever play slots; when the machine hit feature and pays only abit more than how much i lost to the machine initially,

Well, this is true and slot actually works (payback) in this way. Therefore, the player usually continue to play until

most of the time it will eat my money. Does this happend anybody here?

Most players do not know "When to Go Home" and they will play until "pok liao" or hit something BIG. I am still learning "When to Go Home", this got to be the most difficult "lesson" I have ever take and till date I still FAILED.

[highroller777]

How about these 'myths' I see aunties like to do to induce payout:
1. taking out membership card then re-slot (reason: so that machine can't recognize them??)
2. banging the buttons hard during free spin so that machine will not go into their pre programmed payment modes
3. look for machine that player just left showing big payout (machine in paying mode)
4. vary your bets (again to confuse programming)
5. extraordinary or spiritual side would be to place sweets on table(feed the monsters), place tailsman sticker on screen (saw a few), place water bottle to feed monster's thirst, place phone in front of screen to ward off evil, use underwear the other way (also throw off bad luck), never rush for a seat fr next player sure lose one


I don't believe in all that as IT IS ALL RANDOM, Right?

[aurvandil]

These methods do "work". The reason they do so however is because they slow down the rate of play. Because the player plays less, the player loses less, giving the illusion of a "magic" technique.

How about these 'myths' I see aunties like to do to induce payout:
1. taking out membership card then re-slot (reason: so that machine can't recognize them??)
2. banging the buttons hard during free spin so that machine will not go into their pre programmed payment modes
3. look for machine that player just left showing big payout (machine in paying mode)
4. vary your bets (again to confuse programming)
5. extraordinary or spiritual side would be to place sweets on table(feed the monsters), place tailsman sticker on screen (saw a few), place water bottle to feed monster's thirst, place phone in front of screen to ward off evil, use underwear the other way (also throw off bad luck), never rush for a seat fr next player sure lose one


I don't believe in all that as IT IS ALL RANDOM, Right?

[Kia0042]

How about these 'myths' I see aunties like to do to induce payout:
1. taking out membership card then re-slot (reason: so that machine can't recognize them??)
2. banging the buttons hard during free spin so that machine will not go into their pre programmed payment modes
3. look for machine that player just left showing big payout (machine in paying mode)
4. vary your bets (again to confuse programming)
5. extraordinary or spiritual side would be to place sweets on table(feed the monsters), place tailsman sticker on screen (saw a few), place water bottle to feed monster's thirst, place phone in front of screen to ward off evil, use underwear the other way (also throw off bad luck), never rush for a seat fr next player sure lose one
I don't believe in all that as IT IS ALL RANDOM, Right?

6. Place a pineapple (Ong lai) near the screen,
7. Throw a few candy on the floor (feed the "gui kia"),
8. Wear red underwear,
9. Rub the screen,
etc...etc....
if any of the above method makes you feel better, no harm trying coz this make your mood better when playing.
Slot is random, don't be "tiki" (stubborn) if the machine doesn't payout. Learn to give up.
I always tell people learn to giveup but ownself sometimes also very stubborn, knowing the machine doesn't pay still "tiki", simply don't believe the machine will not voimit after feeding thousand and thousand of dollars??! Eventually played until "pok", LL also must give up.

[theblackhole]

When the 2 casinos first opened, there were a few high profile cases of gamblers who lost huge amounts of money. The amounts were so huge that it led many to have the misconception this was a problem only for the rich. 2 years on, we now have the first gambling law suits against "regular" people. The amounts in MBS case range from $50,000 to $100,000. These amounts are very real amounts if you are small time player who frequent the casinos regularly.

http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2...16-353317.html

SINGAPORE - Up to 20 more debt collection lawsuits have been brought in recent months by Marina Bay Sands (MBS) against mostly Malaysian gamblers, while three new cases totalling $5.9 million in claims were filed by Resorts World Sentosa (RWS) this past week.

To date, around 40 cases have been filed by Drew & Napier LLC, and another 30 by Harry Elias Partnership LLP, all on behalf of MBS. A total of eight debt collection lawsuits have been filed by Straits Law Practice LLC on behalf of RWS since March.

Between 15 and 20 new cases were filed in the High Court by MBS since late April, almost all of which were against gamblers from Malaysia who had failed to respond to the casino's letters of demand. MBS is suing each of them for sums ranging from $50,000 to $100,000.

Typically, court cases seeking damages of $250,000 or less are filed in the Subordinate Courts. Although the amount of damages sought in the new cases are below that level, they were filed in the High Court because judgments obtained from that court are enforceable in courts in Malaysia...........

The casino obtained a $1.68 million default judgment in April against Singaporean Phuah Hock Guan after he failed to file a defence. Just weeks after he was sued, Phuah filed for bankruptcy in what lawyers say is the first case of its kind here.

Thanks Bro aurvandil for the detailed cases. I think gambling is really a lethal addiction.Brothers here better take it easy.Thank for sharing. When the casinos were first opened here, I was so excited and my few visits there esp MBS were great! I won...won and won....until one day, I grew insane and LOST everything in one day!!!! And the losing streak continued until I could not tahan...chasing my losses. chasing the JPs and chasng the features....chasing the Fu Fu Fu....until I woke up and told myself: Better stop before I lost everything: my job, my family, my career, my savings and everything.And after reading all the honest revelations and confessions here in this forum, I was convinced these gambling dens are really hell-holes. So I've stayed away...But the temptation to return is always there.

I scored a first over the weekend! I went to MBS...got my free car park privilege and I DID NOT STEP INTO THE CASINO!!!
My friends were surprised! I ate at the food-court and I went shopping instead! Bought myself a pair of Clark shoes!!!

Take care Brothers all...Take care Bro Kia...

[theblackhole]

6. Place a pineapple (Ong lai) near the screen,
7. Throw a few candy on the floor (feed the "gui kia"),
8. Wear red underwear,
9. Rub the screen,
etc...etc....
if any of the above method makes you feel better, no harm trying coz this make your mood better when playing.
Slot is random, don't be "tiki" (stubborn) if the machine doesn't payout. Learn to give up.
I always tell people learn to giveup but ownself sometimes also very stubborn, knowing the machine doesn't pay still "tiki", simply don't believe the machine will not voimit after feeding thousand and thousand of dollars??! Eventually played until "pok", LL also must give up.

Haha...so funny.One aunty told me to rub the face of the CYD....and sometimes, the features came!!! But only 3 pandas lah!!! I saw many other funny things. I even saw one aunty praying...NamoNamoNamo...she was near desperation. Two CYD appeared and all she needed was one more to strike the jackpot! In the end, 3 blackeyes!!! I believe the slots are all pre-programmed to release the features or the JPs at the appropriate time. In the end, they are actually robbers and bandits.

So do play carefully and joyfully if you can afford it. I do not have the means and the BRs to sustain this "hobby". Thanks for sharing Brothers all.Good Luck and please take care lah. Don't go insane and lose everything. If you strike a feature of 2K, which is slightly more than your BR, RUN LAH!!! If you stay, you will lose your JP 2K plus your BR plus all your ATM withdrawals.That is the "problem" when you become " tiki" and when you want to hit THE BIG JP!!!... RUN.....HIT AND RUN!!!!....

[theblackhole]

Well, this is true and slot actually works (payback) in this way. Therefore, the player usually continue to play until

Most players do not know "When to Go Home" and they will play until "pok liao" or hit something BIG. I am still learning "When to Go Home", this got to be the most difficult "lesson" I have ever take and till date I still FAILED.

I totally agree with Bro Kia....we must all learn to GO HOME and RUN once we striked some features or JPs...or have lost our BRs....if we continue to stay on and continue to empty our ATMs, that is the sign of a disastrous play. Once the BR gone, GO HOME ...and fight another day. I had been caught in one of these " tiki " days...stayed on, emptied my wallet, emptied my limits ,emptied my atm withdrawals...exceeding the max withdrawals....and then walked out a broken gambler, a disenchanted man, a shattered soul...and all I wanted was to seek vengence by returning to chase after my losses.But luckily, I woke up in time....and I am still around sharing and reading the posts here.

Take care Brothers...gambling is destructive and it is very lethal.You really DON'T KNOW WHEN TO STOP and WHEN TO GO HOME once you are drugged...You will continue to stay and play until you DIE!....So please be careful.

JJcc, I hope your birthday treat was good. Bro Kia, it's time to slow down and take it easy after an unfavourable six months. Wish you luck and I hope one fine day, you strike the Big One and redeem all your losses.Good Luck and HUAT everyone!!!

[RWSSLOTS]

"TIKI" today at LUX and died a horigible death......

[Mindless]

This afternoon, the familiar duo were upstairs at the sky heros. The younger one got a hand pay - >300k plus credits on a 5D!!!!!!

I believed she max bet 450 credits and gotten the FH fish x 30.......wow wee. So lucky. But then at the rate that she bet, $15k is not going to last very long unless the machine is hot or they hit the big JP. Cheers and good luck.....

[aurvandil]

Really good to see that you are doing well. Knowledge is the greatest defense against problem gambling. Once you have learned enough and have no more illusions, then you will not fall into the pit again. For you, the greatest danger will be if you go in and have some small winnings. This will then create the mindset that maybe things have changed and you can win this time. Before you know it, you will find yourself going again and again. And then before you know it, you will have lost all the initial winnings and burned a big hole ....

I scored a first over the weekend! I went to MBS...got my free car park privilege and I DID NOT STEP INTO THE CASINO!!!
My friends were surprised! I ate at the food-court and I went shopping instead! Bought myself a pair of Clark shoes!!!

[highroller777]

few months back, i saw jp2 'dropped' on a machine about 1 sec after the player pulled out his ticket and left the machine, so nobody won the jp2, only the machine won. is that possible? can jp drop on a machine without people playing that machine for that matter?

[Kia0042]

This afternoon, the familiar duo were upstairs at the sky heros. The younger one got a hand pay - >300k plus credits on a 5D!!!!!!

I believed she max bet 450 credits and gotten the FH fish x 30.......wow wee. So lucky. But then at the rate that she bet, $15k is not going to last very long unless the machine is hot or they hit the big JP. Cheers and good luck.....

Well well, was at skyheros last evening too, supposed to attend the Crap Dinner (Slurp) invited by RWS at 7:30pm but tempted by the JP2 prize pool 4.6k, the time was 7:10PM, thinking still got time, so decieded to give a try before the dinner, venue at Hardrock Hotel. Inserted 1k cash into the corner 5D machine, WTH, hit the feature at my last 2,000cr and payout Zero!! 3 scatter coins paid 625cr remained 625cr after 13free spins, WTF! Time was 7:30PM, got to go so simply finished up my 3,000cr balance in a hurry and quitted.
Went for my dinner - 7:30PM ~ 8:30PM - Nothing special to metion about the dinner, buffet style with chilli craps (ave standard), singers performance on stage (noisy), left the venue at 8:30PM coz stomach was a bit upset after the dinner.
Thought of visiting the restroom at level 2 then head back home coz felt a bit uncomfortable, but again, went to take a look at skyheros after visiting the restroom, hmmmm, JP2 still there, tried 1k again. Picked another 5D machine and after feeding 5,000cr nothing at all. Gaveup and decided to try the 5K machine behind. Recalled bro mindless mentioned that this machine seems to preferrence by highrollers, "bo chiap" liao, bet Max, since only left 15,000cr ($750), just hoping to hit one feature within my balance credits. To my surprise, I hit the feature after 30spins, picked 15 free spins and re-triggerred, picked 20 free spins, total payout 104,000cr ($5k)! Run!

[Kia0042]

few months back, i saw jp2 'dropped' on a machine about 1 sec after the player pulled out his ticket and left the machine, so nobody won the jp2, only the machine won. is that possible? can jp drop on a machine without people playing that machine for that matter?

Technically, it is impossbile that a JP drops on idle machine, how can this possible?! I cannot think of a reason.

[Mindless]

few months back, i saw jp2 'dropped' on a machine about 1 sec after the player pulled out his ticket and left the machine, so nobody won the jp2, only the machine won. is that possible? can jp drop on a machine without people playing that machine for that matter?

I think that person has already gotten the JP and cashout...

There is always a lag of about 2-5 sec between the JP credits given into the machine and the display panel finally announcing the JP winner. For the winner, they will first see that they have a sudden increase in Credits on their machine and then about 2-5 sec later, the bells and whistle will follow.

[aurvandil]

Another possibility is that you were playing on a hyperlinked machine which is linked with machine banks other than the one where you were sitting.

few months back, i saw jp2 'dropped' on a machine about 1 sec after the player pulled out his ticket and left the machine, so nobody won the jp2, only the machine won. is that possible? can jp drop on a machine without people playing that machine for that matter?

[darkseed73]

HELLO BROTHERS!

I have being reading this thread and decided to contribute my own experience lol

I am not a big player so far P&L is -10k to rws, my experience is very funny I prefer WoZ or Back to the future so I always start with these 2 machines in rws.

Usually I will win like 2-3k in the first hour.....then lose them all becos i thought first hour win then leave very stupid.

Now i only go casino once every 3-6 months to see any "newer" machine becos I treat slots like computer games which I play a lot.

I told my spouse playing slots is like buying entertainment to me so just treat me like going spa package etc 2-3k every 3-6 months i think it's fair.

Don't try to use Gambling to make money becos it will never happen.....and for salaried worker like us...pls play only 10-20% of your pay (including entry fee.....)

[RWSSLOTS]

AVP - wonder when it will drop...been trying last nite and my br all suck into this avp balckhole leh

[RWSSLOTS]

limpei pua sio liao....