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Ang Moh: Sg Banks Dishonest!

makapaaa

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Apr 10, 2010

CURRENCY CONVERSION FEES
Banks, credit card firms should tell all

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I REFER to the reply by United Overseas Bank ('No hidden fee for using card abroad: UOB', March 7) to Ms Lim Mui Cheng's letter ('Using credit card abroad? Beware of hidden fee', Feb 21).
The bank says Ms Lim is wrong and that it does not hide credit card charges. It stated: 'Disclosure of foreign transaction charges can be found at the back of our credit card statement or via our website.'
I checked and, yes, it is there. The bank says it charges 'an administrative fee up to 1.5 per cent of the transaction amount'.
What the bank does not say is that all credit card bills show overseas purchases in the foreign currency and Singapore dollars. It includes a currency conversion charge that cannot be broken down.
It remains hidden, just as Ms Lim said.
Some of the hidden fees come from card companies. Visa's website mentions a 1 per cent fee, and then says there may be more charges. MasterCard cites a 0.8 per cent fee, but says there are additional costs it does not disclose 'due to our business agreements with our customers (banks)'.
Card companies and banks blame one another for the non-disclosure, but it is the banks that prepare credit card bills. Only they know the hidden fees cardholders pay. Disclosure - if it ever happens - will have to come from the banks.
An almost funny example of what is wrong is 'double billing'. UOB's cardholder agreement says: 'Card transactions in foreign currencies other than US dollars will be converted into US dollars before being converted into your card billing currency.'
It means if you make a purchase in Malaysian ringgit, it will be converted to US dollars, and then to Singapore dollars. I asked UOB why it did not charge the cardholder once instead of twice.
It said it would take a 'rain check' on the question.
The biggest problem is that even if you discover that double billing exists, it does not help. You will still not know the currency conversion cost in your bill.
As explained, the banks embed it in the price of the merchandise you buy overseas, and it cannot be broken down.
This has been going on for decades. Now would be a good time for banks to disclose the hidden charges in our credit card bills.
It is easy; just one number. Come on banks, you can do it.
Larry Haverkamp
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Received_by_Kings

Alfrescian
Loyal
Apr 10, 2010

CURRENCY CONVERSION FEES
Banks, credit card firms should tell all

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I REFER to the reply by United Overseas Bank ('No hidden fee for using card abroad: UOB', March 7) to Ms Lim Mui Cheng's letter ('Using credit card abroad? Beware of hidden fee', Feb 21).
The bank says Ms Lim is wrong and that it does not hide credit card charges. It stated: 'Disclosure of foreign transaction charges can be found at the back of our credit card statement or via our website.'
I checked and, yes, it is there. The bank says it charges 'an administrative fee up to 1.5 per cent of the transaction amount'.
What the bank does not say is that all credit card bills show overseas purchases in the foreign currency and Singapore dollars. It includes a currency conversion charge that cannot be broken down.
It remains hidden, just as Ms Lim said.
Some of the hidden fees come from card companies. Visa's website mentions a 1 per cent fee, and then says there may be more charges. MasterCard cites a 0.8 per cent fee, but says there are additional costs it does not disclose 'due to our business agreements with our customers (banks)'.
Card companies and banks blame one another for the non-disclosure, but it is the banks that prepare credit card bills. Only they know the hidden fees cardholders pay. Disclosure - if it ever happens - will have to come from the banks.
An almost funny example of what is wrong is 'double billing'. UOB's cardholder agreement says: 'Card transactions in foreign currencies other than US dollars will be converted into US dollars before being converted into your card billing currency.'
It means if you make a purchase in Malaysian ringgit, it will be converted to US dollars, and then to Singapore dollars. I asked UOB why it did not charge the cardholder once instead of twice.
It said it would take a 'rain check' on the question.
The biggest problem is that even if you discover that double billing exists, it does not help. You will still not know the currency conversion cost in your bill.
As explained, the banks embed it in the price of the merchandise you buy overseas, and it cannot be broken down.
This has been going on for decades. Now would be a good time for banks to disclose the hidden charges in our credit card bills.
It is easy; just one number. Come on banks, you can do it.
Larry Haverkamp
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Larry oh Larry, give it a rest won't you? Isn't this sort of bank administrative BS much more complicated and exciting back home in the US of A no? Where for a start you are even charged a fee for electing to use an ATM? And what? Just one number, at the expense of all other relevant revenue numbers? Of course they can't do it. Don't be silly!
 

Royalblood

Alfrescian
Loyal
Excellent! Yet another case of stupid fucking angmo making accusation without doing homework! When will these fucking white trashes ever learn the importance of doing research before making any claims!?

In the FX market, very seldom will 2 currencies get exchanged directly. Usually they will have to go throught the USD, ie CHF/ SGD pair: CHF to USD and then USD to SGD.

Fucking chao angmo should be glad that there is no nonsensical banking fees in Singapore like bank acc servicing fee, ATM fee or fee chargeable everytime u purchase on debit card! :oIo:
 
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